# Ilhan Omar - A thread about her marriage and immigration history. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347 "2019-07-20T12:32:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/121 "2019-07-24T03:53:39Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The Wikipedia page on the term may surprise you. > > [Dutch uncle - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_uncle) > > Was your Dutch uncle an asshole? 😃 Nope. They were all good friends of the family. Maybe it’s family peculiar that we use the term to indicate a close-but-not-blood relationship. I’m sure every family has those. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/122 "2019-07-24T04:31:04Z")
The idea that she married her brother was always in the minds of people just wishing for something to put her in jail over or totally discredit her. But there are shenanigans going on for sure, otherwise she’d explain what was going on and not told lies about it. My own hypothesis? A rather unislamic alternative lifestyle that is definitely not criminal, definitely not fraudulent, but also something she would want to keep in the closet. I don’t believe for a second she’s religious. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/123 "2019-07-24T04:47:32Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I actually meant anti-democratic racist fucking trash and by far the biggest threat to America, but yeah, also rabid, not rapid. :D:cool: ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/124 "2019-07-24T04:56:04Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > My own hypothesis? A rather unislamic alternative lifestyle that is definitely not criminal, definitely not fraudulent, but also something she would want to keep in the closet. I don’t believe for a second she’s religious. Well, certainly not as religious as Trump. The religious right think that Trump is a very, very pious man. Loves to go to church regularly. Knows the scriptures by heart, don’tcha know. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/125 "2019-07-24T10:09:39Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The idea that she married her brother was always in the minds of people just wishing for something to put her in jail over or totally discredit her. But there are shenanigans going on for sure, otherwise she’d explain what was going on and not told lies about it. > > My own hypothesis? A rather unislamic alternative lifestyle that is definitely not criminal, definitely not fraudulent, but also something she would want to keep in the closet. I don’t believe for a second she’s religious. Ah, there’s the patented **adaher** technique we’ve come to know and expect: “The blatant right-wing smear campaign has been debunked, so I’m just going to float vague impressions and unsupported insinuations instead, which I will subsequently repeat over and over and over and pretend that this somehow proves that they’re true.” God, I’d forgotten what a disingenuous little shit you are. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/126 "2019-07-24T11:04:39Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > But there are shenanigans going on for sure, Like someone put down an old address on a form? Like I said above, if you had any evidence of shenanigans, you wouldn’t have to make up some shit story. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/127 "2019-07-24T11:39:20Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > My own hypothesis? A rather unislamic alternative lifestyle that is definitely not criminal, definitely not fraudulent, but also something she would want to keep in the closet. I don’t believe for a second she’s religious. That sounds two Corinthians short of a testament to me. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/128 "2019-07-24T11:50:50Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > That sounds two Corinthians short of a testament to me. [Golf clap] ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/129 "2019-07-24T13:43:57Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > But there are shenanigans going on for sure, otherwise she’d explain what was going on and not told lies about it. A. What lies has she told? and B. What evidence makes you think there are shenanigans? > [@](#): > > My own hypothesis? C. What makes you think anyone cares? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/130 "2019-07-24T14:05:08Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > C. What makes you think anyone cares? To clarify, why would anyone take seriously a “hypothesis” to explain the \*lack \*of supporting facts? How is that different from sheer fantasy? Oh, well, you’re convinced of Hillary Clinton’s guilt (of something or other, you’ve never said what) on the same basis, so at least you’re consistent in your delusions. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/131 "2019-07-24T16:21:22Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Like someone put down an old address on a form? > > Like I said above, if you had any evidence of shenanigans, you wouldn’t have to make up some shit story. The evidence is that shenanigans are “always in the minds of people just wishing for something to put her in jail over or totally discredit her.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/132 "2019-07-24T16:33:49Z")
See, in the mind of a true conspiracy theorist, the lack of evidence proves there’s a coverup. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/133 "2019-07-24T17:28:21Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > See, in the mind of a true conspiracy theorist, the lack of evidence proves there’s a coverup. Let’s not give them this much credit, it implies that evidence matters. When Obama took HIS conspiracy theory head on by providing a copy of his birth certificate, one that was publicly certified as accurate by the head of Hawaii’s department of health, the CTists didn’t care. As long as they had a made up story that didn’t violate the very laws of nature, they were going with it. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/134 "2019-07-24T18:21:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > See, in the mind of a true conspiracy theorist, the lack of evidence proves there’s a coverup. “If she _hadn’t_ married her brother, there’d be at least _some_ evidence that she _had_ married her brother; it’s just logical!” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/135 "2019-07-24T18:23:01Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Let’s not give them this much credit, it implies that evidence matters. > > When Obama took HIS conspiracy theory head on by providing a copy of his birth certificate, one that was publicly certified as accurate by the head of Hawaii’s department of health, the CTists didn’t care. As long as they had a made up story **that didn’t violate the very laws of nature** , they were going with it. Let’s be honest; even that part is largely optional. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/136 "2019-07-24T18:24:46Z")
She lied on her taxes and also will not tell anyone what her relationship is with that other guy, and she’s also lied about the relationship, saying she doesn’t know where he is, even though they’ve communicated. Her and his social media were wiped clean and she’s made her family members clam up. When the media meets a total wall of silence, something’s going on. > **[PolitiFact - Did Ilhan Omar marry her brother? Her hometown newspaper...](https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/jul/18/did-ilhan-omar-marry-her-brother-her-hometown-news/)** > > For years, critics of Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., have raised questions about her marriages and made the explosive claim t and as the newspaper man in question says, when she lied on her taxes, it became an issue a Congresswoman must answer ffor. It’s not longer just a personal matter. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/137 "2019-07-24T18:34:14Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > She lied on her taxes and also will not tell anyone what her relationship is with that other guy, and she’s also lied about the relationship, saying she doesn’t know where he is, even though they’ve communicated. Her and his social media were wiped clean and she’s made her family members clam up. > > When the media meets a total wall of silence, something’s going on. > > [https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/jul/18/did-ilhan-omar-marry-her-brother-her-hometown-news/](https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/jul/18/did-ilhan-omar-marry-her-brother-her-hometown-news/) > > and as the newspaper man in question says, when she lied on her taxes, it became an issue a Congresswoman must answer ffor. It’s not longer just a personal matter. Ok once we get Trump’s tax returns we’ll worry about hers. Deal? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/138 "2019-07-24T18:36:36Z")
Not arguing that she’s at the level of Trump or even that there’s a huge scandal here. I don’t need to do that to point out that there’s plenty there for the local press to investigate, and they have, at least until they realized they weren’t going to get anywhere. The fact they aren’t bothering to pursue it anymore and just reporting it as it is is a testament to its relative importance. They spent two weeks looking into it, got nowhere, and reported the facts for their readers to fill in the blanks. Which we have every right to do if a politician is hiding something and resorted to illegal actions to cover it up. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/139 "2019-07-24T18:58:53Z")
Sure, but nobody needs to pay any attention to what you fill in the blanks with. I’m sure if there was anything really here the right-wing-o-sphere wouldn’t hold back the evidence once it was found. I have every confidence that if there is something here they will find it, but until then, meh… ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347/140 "2019-07-24T19:00:44Z")
Nothing is likely to be found because no one will talk and social media has been wiped. All we know is that she’s hiding things and that they all lived together. My hypothesis of a three-way relationship fits the facts like a glove. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-a-thread-about-her-marriage-and-immigration-history/837347.md?page=8)