That’s your mantra. It’s rather reminiscent of what Kellyanne Conway says on the regular about Trump and Russia among other matters.
You haven’t offered anything more than that. Neither has anyone else in the thread.
So… on my face or down my throat? I’m happy with both but I gotta get that payoff man
Slacker and Rat can shove their fallacious appeals to probability up their asses.
No; who said it was “perfectly unexceptional”? But it does not in any way imply that said member of Congress married her own brother.
And unless and until anybody who’s alleging that she did marry her own brother manages to come up with actual evidence supporting such allegations, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that those allegations are baseless. There is nothing intrinsically improper or suspicious in somebody refusing to respond to baseless allegations. Nor is there anything wrong with the press investigating and reporting on news about such allegations, even if they never turn out to be anything more than baseless.
:dubious: Are you kidding? Several Trump Cabinet appointees, not to mention the President himself, have served despite clear records of conduct involving actual ethics violations, not just personal-life drama in which no investigation has managed to find any evidence of illegality.
Honestly, SlackerInc, we know you hate Ilhan Omar because you mistakenly imagine she disaparaged President Obama’s “pretty face”, but if you want to discredit her in any believable way, you are going to have to come up with some better evidence than just repeating halfassed gossip about her rather colorful marital history.
So after giving me crap for not posting it in August, you’re not even going to read the Strib article now. Got it.
ETA: You also seem to be commenting without actually reading my posts, either, since I said my hunch is that she did not marry her brother but committed some other kind of less salacious immigration fraud.
Thanks for finally clarifying that, but no, it was not obvious in your post #372 that you were talking about the article you linked in your post #327 on the previous page.
And what I pointed out you were wrong about was your claim that iiandyiiii was “trying to have it both ways”.
I’ve posted this before, but I think it fits here like a glove:
As an example of the contempt I believe SlackerInc has demonstrated for black women, I’ll offer several posts in this thread: https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20963073#post20963073
When you with the face (a black woman) challenges his assertion that black people are inherently mentally inferior, on average, as a relatively mundane instance of casual white supremacism, he insists that his doubling-down response actually “show[ed] her true respect in a debate setting” and that she was “butthurt” for mocking his repeated white supremacist posts.
I think everyone should keep this sort of thing in mind when Slacker goes on a rant about a woman of color (like Omar). There are certainly reasonable criticisms of Omar, IMO. I think it’s reasonable to be skeptical when an admitted racist who doubles down on his white supremacism goes on such a rant.
That you have such evidence-free negative hunches about a member of 2 groups you haven’t been shy about finding inferior in different ways (black people and Muslims) isn’t surprising to any of us, and doesn’t tell us anything except providing even more evidence that you have a serious issue with outspoken black people, outspoken black women, and/or outspoken Muslims, who dare to say something that you might disagree with.
I did read the article that you kindly linked, and nowhere does it contain any actual evidence that Omar married her brother. So I don’t know what difference you think that article makes in this discussion, other than as a perfectly legitimate journalistic investigation of allegations that still haven’t been shown to be anything but baseless.
So? You were still wrong in saying that iiandyiiii was “trying to have it both ways”. Also, in the absence of any actual evidence for your “hunch”, it remains just as presumably baseless as the allegations that Omar married her brother.
As I’ve said before, I’m not claiming that Omar’s marital history isn’t unusual and in some ways mysterious, or that it’s guaranteed to be absolutely free of any kind of misconduct. (We already know about some minor misconduct involving tax reporting, because actual evidence has been adduced for it.) But that doesn’t constitute evidence that she’s done anything legally wrong, no matter how many unsupported “hunches” you may have about her conduct.
There’s Andy having it both ways again. When I express antipathy towards one single black member of Congress, he ascribes it to racial bias. When I note that she is one of only very few members of the Congressional Black Caucus whom I don’t like, suddenly it’s invalid to point this out. Talk about cherrypicking! Any negative opinion I express toward a black legislator is evidence against me, but warm feelings toward a much larger number of black legislators are not allowed to be counted in the positive column. :rolleyes:
I’ll add that I’m very, very tough on Slacker because I think there’s a chance that one day he’ll recognize how wrong and harmful his bigotry is, unlike many other long-time assholes on the Dope. I suppose my hopes here are receding, but they’re not at zero yet.
Things like that tend to happen when you’ve explicitly admitted to racist (hell, white supremacist!) beliefs about black people. If anyone is “having it both ways”, it’s the guy who thinks (with no evidence!) black people are inherently inferior in intelligence, but thinks this is okay to believe because he’s very fond of some black people.
Nope, I have not admitted to being a white supremacist, because I don’t believe whites are superior. The election of Donald Trump proves that better than anything. I believe all individuals of every type of ancestry deserve to be treated as individuals without holding against them any characteristics they were born with and cannot change. (That includes ethnicity, gender, and sexual orientation, among other things, but does not include religion—which people are not born with and can change.)
Your views about the supposed inherent and inborn intellectual inferiority are indeed white supremacist – they match perfectly, or nearly perfectly, the (evidence-free, as a reminder) views of David Duke on the genetics of black people and intelligence. Maybe if you admitted this to yourself, you’d move towards casting off these pseudoscientific views. Thankfully, you lack most of the other hateful views of Duke, but that doesn’t excuse matching him on this one.
When I was in tech support, we called those canned answers.
Just copy and paste the fig leaf SI, … 
“Orientalist” xenophobia and Islamophobia probably have a lot to do with the popular appeal of this “scandal” in general. Muslim rituals! Polygamy! Incest! Harems! Dusky maidens!
A lot of people are getting stirred up about this who are perfectly comfortable with, e.g., the fact that President Trump’s third wife and former mistress, whom he met shortly after divorcing his second wife and former mistress for whom he had previously divorced his first wife, had possible visa-status disqualifications when she started working in the US and dubious credentials for obtaining her subsequent immigration “Einstein visa” reserved for people highly acclaimed in their fields.
That’s normal ordinary rich-white-people Western-type marital scandal and therefore not sinister, even if it’s at least as tawdry as anything that we actually know about in Omar’s personal history.
Evasive.
Do you think that white people are more intelligent, on average, than black people?
You’re wrong again. “Liking” selected black individuals doesn’t mean you’re not racist, nor that your dislike for a different black individual must be unconnected with racism.
SlackerInc, given that you yourself have openly claimed to be racist and to advocate racist views, I really don’t understand why you’re struggling so hard to deny that your views on individual black people might be somewhat tainted by racism. It’s kind of like a devout Christian, who believes in the existence of angels, complaining that people assume that their views on angels are influenced by their religious beliefs. Well, yeah, that is not an unreasonable inference.
And the angle of claiming that this has to do with immigration or application to citizenship shenanigans is even weaker.
More logical, with the executive as it is, controlled by Trump lackeys; it is clear to me that Omar’s citizen application was already looked at for inconsistencies, as Snopes put it, it is more likely that Omar did tell the truth.