# Ilhan Omar can fuck right off **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815 "2019-03-09T03:54:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/41 "2019-03-09T11:59:24Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > But what does any of that have to do with the shit she talked about Obama? 😕 That’s where she lost me, to say the least. Dude, just last night someone on my FB posted a meme: “Uh oh, Dems favorite savior criticized their other favorite savior (Obama). I’m gonna break out my popcorn to watch them tear each other apart over this one” My response to this dolt was: “Unlike Trump supporters, Dems understand Obama isn’t perfect. I’m afraid you not in for much of a show” Thanks for proving me wrong **SlackerInc**. SMH ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/42 "2019-03-09T12:14:43Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > No, that’s not what she’s saying. She’s saying—so clearly that I really don’t understand how you keep massively misinterpreting it in so many different directions—that the differences between Obama and Trump are not sufficient to fix this giant structural problem in our entire political system. Exactly. Slacker, you continue to be a racist idiot. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/43 "2019-03-09T12:20:51Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Yeah, so have I, just as I have felt about our relationship with Saudi Arabia. This is part of why I cut Omar slack about the “Benjamins” thing, because AIPAC really is a malign influence on our politics, and a lot of that influence is exerted through the use of money. And the Likud Party in Israel, and the even more heinously right wing parties it aligns with to eke out a majority in Parliament, are revolting. Israel is morally not much different from apartheid South Africa. > > But what does any of that have to do with the shit she talked about Obama? 😕 That’s where she lost me, to say the least. She didn’t “talk shit” about Obama, you toddler. You’re just incapable of having an adult conversation about the broad flaws in our political system, such that even a talented and well meaning president like Obama was unable to overcome them. You’re like a toddler listening on an adult conversation about how mommy hasn’t been able to overcome the red tape at the agency she works for. All the toddler can process is that a mean man is saying mean things about mommy. This is just beyond you, quite clearly. It was meant for adults capable of nuanced thought. Best for you to shrug and put it aside, since you’re clearly incapable of understanding it, just as you’d put aside a detailed treatise on human frailty written in Swahili. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/44 "2019-03-09T13:28:19Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > So, all in, I think I’ll go option b, pause just to mention again that you’re a disingenuous, evasive sack of shit, and go hit the trails on my bike. Struck out, eh? 😛 And now you’re taking your ball and going home. Kbye. But you have leveled a serious charge at me, one that I find sickening. So even if you have peaced out, for anyone else that might be reading and wondering if your accusation has merit, I pulled up some quotes from 2016. If I’m only pretending to be a Democrat, I’ve been operating under the most bizarrely pointless and time-consuming deep cover ever. Let’s start with February, in the thick of primary season: > [@If Trump gets the GOP nomination, Hillary should drop out and give it to Bernie](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-gets-the-gop-nomination-hillary-should-drop-out-and-give-it-to-bernie/747065/29): > > I agree, although I think she has to handle him with a kind of withering contempt, always making it clear she is not accepting the legitimacy of his clown act. > > This is so silly, and unlike a lot of the other claims being made, it is likely to be tested. If I were not so lazy and were more organized, I’d save this for November, to have a chuckle about when Hillary wins by double digits. That was in response to Rigamarole, who apparently then nursed a grudge about it for nearly nine months, as s/he PMed me to wave it in my face after Trump won. :smack: April: > [@Feel the #extortion Bernie has planned](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feel-the-extortion-bernie-has-planned/750443/521): > > I have never failed to vote for a Democratic nominee, and you can be sure that if Bernie were the nominee, that trend would continue. (In fact, recognition of this fact, and the general Democratic loyalty of the Hillary fanbase, was what really galled me when my Bernhead friend called me and said “you and the other Hillary supporters will still reliably vote for any Democrat in the fall, whereas the Bernie supporters won’t, so you should just vote for Bernie in the primary if you want to make sure the Republicans don’t win.” Grrr.) On July 27, I wrote a broadside against Trump in a thread that’s now closed, so I can’t do a regular reply quote. But I’ll link and manually quote it. This is actually the post I found last; if I had found it first, I might have just stuck with posting only this. There is no plausible world where someone pretending to be a Democrat but secretly trying to get Trump elected would post something like this. It’s not necessary to establish bonafides, and it (IMO) pretty effectively denounces and discredits Trump to any wavering voter who might happen across it: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19511768&postcount=3044](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19511768&postcount=3044) > [@](#): > > I feel remiss in earlier today having done my usual thing in terms of poking fun at Trump, without having very seriously addressed the invitation to Russia to commit espionage the moment I first heard about it. I’m distracted, I guess, by the DNC, and of course Trump has “defined deviance down”. But that’s no excuse, and I want to be very emphatic and serious about this right now. > > A list of “top ten most outrageous things a major party’s nominee has ever said or done” would almost certainly feature Trump at every position, especially if we are talking about modern political history (since women and racial minorities could participate). But what he said today is number one, AINEC. In any remotely sane world (and I thought, before this year, that I lived in one), his own party would figure out a way of negating his nomination. Or, if that were not legally possible, all elected Republicans (other than maybe a few in the lunatic fringe in the House or state legislatures) would declare the strongest possible condemnation for him and urge their constituents not to vote for him. > > In that sane universe, his polling numbers would drop like a stone into the single digits. Maybe Hillary’s wouldn’t rise so much as Johnson’s and “won’t vote that office”. But if this doesn’t happen, then maybe Trump and Bernie were right all along: this country has really gone off on the wrong track. But it can’t be blamed on “Mexicans”, nor on the “one percent”. Aug. 10, mocking Trump: > [@Donald Trump winks and nods to the Second Amendment people](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/116): > > “Bigly”? What the fuck. He really does have the best words. :rolleyes: Aug. 13: > [@Trump calls Barack Obama the "founder of ISIS."](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/138): > > I heard an expert on ISIS go on NPR and say it was unfair to lay the blame for ISIS at Obama’s, and especially Hillary’s, feet, because many other factors, blah blah blah. :smack: Does even this guy not know what the word “founder” means? FFS! Sept. 20: > [@Voters born in the '90s need to get a clue](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voters-born-in-the-90s-need-to-get-a-clue/766423/90): > > So, yes: anyone of any age or race whose sympathies lie left of center (or, arguably, even a little right of center) should be voting for Hillary. If their sympathies are significantly right of center, they may have a tough choice this time around, and I wouldn’t blame them for choosing either way (I’d just blame them for being right wingers to begin with). If they are left of center, and do anything other than vote for Hillary, they are either a fool or a traitor, probably both. And the fundamental point of this thread is that this group includes a lot of college-age kids, although there’s certainly plenty of blame to direct at Bernie Sanders for poisoning impressionable young minds. I have a feeling he knows this, and is feeling a bit sick about it, so hopefully he’ll do his best to make it right–although I’m not sure if he can get that toothpaste back in the tube. On Halloween, AnalogSignal and I had a back-and-forth after I linked to a photo (no longer available, sadly) of my Halloween costume: > [@Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4265): > > Me trick-or-treating tonight in my Trump mask, with Tic-Tacs at the ready in case I run into any beautiful women and don’t want to wait > [@Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4266): > > Your mask has normal human skin tones and is, therefore, not realistic. Did you consider spray painting it orange? > [@Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4267): > > LOL, good point. My wife still found it very disturbing though. Nov. 1, in response to Jragon’s post about how warm and caring Hillary is: > [@Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4273): > > Thank you for posting this. I definitely feel she gets a bum rap. On Election Day: > [@Who else plans to get crunk Election Night?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-plans-to-get-crunk-election-night/771048/10): > > I will be hugely relieved if Hillary wins, and if we get at least to 50 in the Senate, I will be thrilled. My terrible prediction in the Prediction Thread: > [@Presidential results prediction thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-results-prediction-thread/769319/144): > > It works out to a [334-204 win in the Electoral College;](http://www.270towin.com/maps/7Lmvy) I’m not going to predict the national popular vote (sorry!), except to say that I think Hillary will do noticeably better than the final RCP average. Just after the election: > [@The Dems will sweep into power in both the House and the Senate as well as the Presidency](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/147): > > I said it before on the more recent predictions thread. I’m not going to be embarrassed or ashamed that I gave the American people more credit than they deserve. I will cop to being too optimistic, too willing to see the good in people, not contemptuous enough of my fellow citizens’ intelligence and judgment. But that’s not something I feel embarrassed about. Just sad. Unless you mean embarrassed about our country on the world stage. Then yes. This next one was upon learning that Sheriff Joe Arpaio had been defeated for reelection: > [@Liberals - constructive ideas on how to cope?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-constructive-ideas-on-how-to-cope/771186/50): > > I just heard about that about an hour ago. That is a little ray of sunshine. I have hated that guy for over 20 years, and it’s awesome to think that he’s the only prominent Trump advocate in America who didn’t get to enjoy last night. In response to a post from doorhinge, kicking Hillary when she was down, claiming “even Hillary supporters don’t like her”: > [@I actually feel bad for Hillary](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-actually-feel-bad-for-hillary/771162/12): > > This is not true. Polls showed that somewhat surprisingly more of her voters were voting for her rather than against Trump and it was the Trump side that was voting more against her. Anyway, I like her even though I supported Obama in 2008. I listen to her podcast regularly and find her a warm and appealing person. And my heart breaks for her for all the reasons listed in the OP and more. My reply to the aforementioned Rigamarole, who was gloating over Hillary’s loss despite (or because of?) having been a Bernie supporter: > [@I predict that Donald Trump is going to win the election for POTUS this year.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-is-going-to-win-the-election-for-potus-this-year/747810/278): > > I didn’t want, need, or appreciate the PM. But yes, congratulations. I was wrong to have so much faith in humanity. I was actually a little shocked by one thing I hadn’t remembered saying. I guess I was reeling in the wake of the shock of Trump’s election: > [@\* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \*](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1743): > > I just heard a statistic that throws most of the narratives about this election result (the idea of it being a swarm of new blue collar white voters, or Obama voting converts, swarming to the polls) out the window. The only one it preserves is the one about Hillary’s weaknesses. > > Trump got over a _million_ fewer votes than Romney did, even though the voting age population has grown in the past four years. > > Think about that for a second. Mull it over. What we saw here was not any kind of surge for Trump. It was a bunch of Democrats sitting on their hands, while Republicans did what they do every election including off-year elections: go out and dutifully vote for their party’s candidates. With 20-20 hindsight, I can see that this connects directly with something I complained about months ago, which was that I hardly ever saw anyone wearing a Hillary button or displaying a Hillary bumper sticker or yard sign. She just wasn’t cool, there were many Democrats who never really warmed to her, and they didn’t go to Trump but just stayed home. > > So that sucks, but it’s actually not as bad a sign for the future as if there had been millions of defectors to the other side. But it does add an extra condition to the oft-cited idea that Republicans vote every time, and Democrats only vote in presidential years: it’s “presidential years in which there is a really inspiring candidate at the top of the ticket”. > > Well, ok. Much easier said than done, but it looks like that had better be what Democrats focus on in future primary races. Maybe it is time to give the left wing of the party a turn. If that turns off too many moderates, then back to the drawing board to find the next Obama who can thread the needle. :smack: “Maybe it’s time to give the left wing of the party a turn”? Nonononono. I plead temporary insanity and retract this suggestion! ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/45 "2019-03-09T13:38:49Z")
NVM The troll doth protest too much, methinks. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/46 "2019-03-09T13:48:16Z")
> [@SuperAbe](#): > > “I haven’t read the article or put effort in to figuring out how if she’s even being quoted correctly but here’s my uninformed opinion.” > > Feel free to not vote for her all you want in 2020. I stand by what I said. Yes, her words are going to be twisted, but she has to understand that. She’s a target. That might not be fair, but welcome to the world of national politics in 2019. She needs to have the humility to accept that she needs some help, and if she doesn’t, she’ll be a one-termer. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/47 "2019-03-09T13:49:48Z")
Tina Nguyen in Vanity Fair isn’t buying this damage-control PR spin any more than I am: > **[Ilhan Omar Backtracks After Saying Obama “Got Away with Murder”](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/ilhan-omar-barack-obama-pretty-face)** > > Democrats didn’t abandon Omar over her comments about Israel. Her criticism of Barack Obama is another matter. Neither are Tim Alberta at POLITICO, Nate Silver at 538, or Ashley Feinberg at HuffPo: > **[Politico Reporter Fires Back After Rep. Ilhan Omar Claims Obama Comments...](https://www.mediaite.com/online/politico-reporter-fires-back-after-rep-ilhan-omar-claims-obama-comments-distorted/)** > > On Friday, controversial Democratic Congresswoman Ihlan Omar blamed the media for distorting her remarks about former President Barack Obama. But they’re all idiots, unable to see what is so plain to all of you, right? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/48 "2019-03-09T14:30:43Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Tina Nguyen in Vanity Fair isn’t buying this damage-control PR spin any more than I am: > > [Ilhan Omar Backtracks After Calling Obama a “Pretty Face” Who “Got Away with Murder” | Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/ilhan-omar-barack-obama-pretty-face) > > Neither are Tim Alberta at POLITICO, Nate Silver at 538, or Ashley Feinberg at HuffPo: > > [Politico Reporter Fires Back After Rep. Ilhan Omar Claims Obama Comments ‘Distorted’](https://www.mediaite.com/online/politico-reporter-fires-back-after-rep-ilhan-omar-claims-obama-comments-distorted/) > > But they’re all idiots, unable to see what is so plain to all of you, right? :rolleyes: No, they have relatively nuanced takes, and nuanced disagreements, about a nuanced criticism, rather than your knee-jerk toddler-esque “oh no she smacked Obama!!” silliness. You’re just incapable of this sort of nuanced understanding. All you can do is cry like a toddler. Positively Trumpian, in a way – an inability to have a real adult conversation about challenging topics. If you said “I disagree with what Omar is saying, because I think Obama actually did a great job with XYZ etc.”, with some real and nuanced discussion, then I wouldn’t be calling you a whiny toddler. But that’s not what you did. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/49 "2019-03-09T14:30:45Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I admittedly haven’t read the full context in which those comments were made, but she really needs less airtime and twitter time. Or she’ll be a one-term congresswoman. > [@asahi](#): > > I stand by what I said. Yes, her words are going to be twisted, but she has to understand that. She’s a target. That might not be fair, but welcome to the world of national politics in 2019. She needs to have the humility to accept that she needs some help, and if she doesn’t, she’ll be a one-termer. Okay? Maybe she feels like the way she can serve her country best is speak what she sees as hard truths as loudly as she can for the two years she’s given. She didn’t hide who she was during the election–she was elected by people who wanted a super-progressive voice. Why on earth are you tsk-tsking her? It’s incredibly condescending, like she’s a rash child who doesn’t understand the implications of her actions. This reads like concern-trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/50 "2019-03-09T14:53:53Z")
Actually, Slacker’s anger reminds me a lot of what we see from **dalej42** (who I believe, on at least one front would also be considered a jackass by many here). It’s the kind of anger you typically don’t see from someone unless they have put in hard work on behalf of a political party and they feel their party is being undermined by something. A normal person like me looks at what Omar said and the worst I might assume is she is armchair quarterbacking, naively making some foreign intervention dilemmas faced by presidents seem as though they had a moral calculus the consequences of which were transparent to them, etc. But that part of the message overall seems to me a caution about being naive. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/51 "2019-03-09T15:03:55Z")
Yes, precisely. It’s not “cool” to be a loyal party guy these days (maybe it never was, but it REALLY isn’t now), but that’s what I am. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/52 "2019-03-09T15:05:36Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Yes, precisely. It’s not “cool” to be a loyal party guy these days (maybe it never was, but it REALLY isn’t now), but that’s what I am. No, it’s not cool to be a knee-jerk, nuance-free toddler. Party loyalty is absolutely fine. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/53 "2019-03-09T15:15:46Z")
A political party is simply a group of people with roughly similar ideas of the proper methods and goals of governance. It is not healthy to take it as a definition of yourself as a person. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/54 "2019-03-09T15:17:44Z")
Your definition of what parties are about is definitely what people who like to feel all hip and ideologically pure subscribe to. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/55 "2019-03-09T15:19:38Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Yes, precisely. It’s not “cool” to be a loyal party guy these days (maybe it never was, but it REALLY isn’t now), but that’s what I am. So a democrat saying “I think Obama was wrong–tragically wrong–when he okay’d drone attacks that quite predictably lead to the death of civilians, including children, and that they should have found another way” is MORE IMMORAL to you than the actual act of accepting the death of children as the cost of doing business? I am extraordinarily torn about the use of drones. But I can’t imagine taking the position that even discussing the moral ambiguity of those actions makes you a traitor to the party who should be run out on a rail. It’s like bombing Japan: maybe it had to be done, but we should never stop questioning and talking about it, we should never forget that it was a horrific act. If we stigmatize that discussion, if we ostracize those who take the position that it was too horrific to justify, we are starting down the path to where we normalize those sorts of actions and start making those choices when there are other options. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/56 "2019-03-09T15:24:16Z")
Okay, you’re torn about it. I’m not, but I respect that you’re grappling with the issue. That’s not what Omar is doing here. She’s spouting the same line I hear constantly from my uber-lefty mother, from various too-cool-for-school lefty friends, and (sadly) increasingly from my 19 year old son. No nuance, just Chomskyesque vicious attacks on Democrats, on the U.S. as a supposed unadulterated force for evil in the world, and more broadly on the West. Never an unkind word, it seems, for any non-Western countries, oddly enough. I have no patience for any of that, and it has no place in the Democratic Party. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/57 "2019-03-09T15:25:26Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Okay, you’re torn about it. I’m not, but I respect that you’re grappling with the issue. That’s not what Omar is doing here. She’s spouting the same line I hear constantly from my uber-lefty mother, from various too-cool-for-school lefty friends, and (sadly) increasingly from my 19 year old son. No nuance, just Chomskyesque vicious attacks on Democrats, on the U.S. as a supposed unadulterated force for evil in the world, and more broadly on the West. Never an unkind word, it seems, for any non-Western countries, oddly enough. I have no patience for any of that, and it has no place in the Democratic Party. Bullshit. You’re just an ignorant racist toddler, either lying about what she said, or incapable of understanding nuanced, adult criticism. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/58 "2019-03-09T15:31:34Z")
I’m tempted to say Andy is Exhibit A. But actually he’s not, because the lefties I’m talking about are annoyed that Omar is trying to walk this back, annoyed that she is now claiming that she was misquoted and actually lurves Obama. Andy, by contrast, is flacking for her PR spin all the way. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/59 "2019-03-09T15:33:40Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I’m tempted to say Andy is Exhibit A. But actually he’s not, because the lefties I’m talking about are annoyed that Omar is trying to walk this back, annoyed that she is now claiming that she was misquoted and actually lurves Obama. Andy, by contrast, is flacking for her PR spin all the way. Weird. What a shame. If you had even a quarter of the intellectual capacity that you claim you do, you’d love the opportunity for some nuanced discussion on complicated political issues and how the Democratic party should govern going forward. But you don’t have this capacity. You’re a racist, ignorant toddler, too stupid for even a shred of self-awareness. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815/60 "2019-03-09T15:36:32Z")
Go ahead, Andy. Give us all the benefit of your wisdom. How should the Democratic Party govern going forward? The floor is yours: I’m sure you have some fantastically thoughtful and nuanced prescriptions to share with us. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ilhan-omar-can-fuck-right-off/830815.md?page=4)