# I'll just let you in on a little secret. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 17, 2000, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219 "2000-04-17T06:35:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![SqrlCub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SqrlCub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SqrlCub)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/61 "2000-04-19T15:52:00Z")
Ogrefade’s ICQ numbers found here [http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004672.html](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004672.html) are as follows: 21906523 and 21506523. His Profile is: Date Registered: 03-23-2000 Status: Member Total Posts: 107 Current Email: [ogrefade@yahoo.com](mailto:ogrefade@yahoo.com) Homepage: [http://ogrefade.dyndns.org](http://ogrefade.dyndns.org) Occupation: student Location: corvallis, or, usa Interests: stuff! ICQ Number: 21506523 Now for the Urge: Date Registered: 04-16-2000 Status: Member Total Posts: 85 Current Email: [the\_urges@hotmail.com](mailto:the_urges@hotmail.com) Homepage: http:// Occupation: Student Location: corvallis, or usa Interests: Interesting things ICQ Number: 21906523 Very good call Wally. 🙂 HUGS! Sqrl PS. I wasn’t going to join in on on this thread. I was semi-hoping that he would actually have some redeeming quality eventually. I am disapointed in you for proving me wrong. * * * [SqrlCub’s Arizona Adventure](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005351.html) ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/62 "2000-04-19T16:03:00Z")
I think the OgreFade ICQ number is deliberately wrong. If you go to the homepage in that profile, you can see the ICQ number here: [http://ogrefade.dyndns.org/frames/intro.html?](http://ogrefade.dyndns.org/frames/intro.html?) It is different from the OgreFade profile, yet the same as the one in the Urge profile. AND the same as the one OgreFade posted in the ICQ thread quoted above. OgreUrge: this is _really_ pathetic. I’m sure you realize that. Don’t answer me or any of the others, resist the urge (har-dee-har). Just leave, OK? ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/63 "2000-04-19T16:04:00Z")
OK, maybe an ICQ # isn’t an ID, but exactly why would you use OgreFade’s ICQ # if you weren’t the same person? The same # is posted on OgreFade’s webpage. This plus your confession(?) over in ATMB certainly makes this an open and shut case as far as I’m concerned. I doubt the administrators will be any slower to see this. ---
**Author:** ![Guy\_Propski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@Guy\_Propski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guy_Propski)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/64 "2000-04-19T16:07:00Z")
Urge, let me let you onto a little secret. If you come into a new place (not just this board), and announce you’re the greatest thing that ever was, you’re going to get your head handed to you on a platter unless you can back it up. So far, you’re batting about .120. If I were you, I’d just abandon this thread and let it die. Try posting a few less egotistical messages, and see if you can overcome your obnoxious first impression. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/65 "2000-04-19T16:10:00Z")
Some room. One of our computers maybe down? Ever think of that perhaps? Perhaps a typo. Who knows. What if he made a typo? Has anyone bothered to ICQ that number to find out if it says ‘the urge’ or ‘ogrefade’? Don’t bother though. That isn’t a plea for someone to talk to me. I refuse to leave. I told you that before. What if I’m just the martyr ogrefade needed? Perhaps I’m a multiple personality. There are hundreds of reasons I can think of. Cheers!! The Urge ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/66 "2000-04-19T16:12:00Z")
Sorry cub. I guess I’m not that great of a person. Lord knows the board wants to tell me about it. So I have no redeeming qualities. I’m thinking one of you would wanna come and assassinate my character a little more 🙂 See you in the pit. The Urge ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/67 "2000-04-19T16:13:00Z")
Go away, fuckhead. We don’t want you here. (Sorry Euty. Ban him, and I shall swear no more.) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/68 "2000-04-19T16:50:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **The Urge** : > > I foramlly retract the astounded. A-HA! Progress. A bit of a deflated ego will go a long way here, **Urge**. (Of course, now you’ve got, what, 5 active threads going on solely about you? Sheesh. Sounds like classic troll behavior to me. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.) > [@](#): > > I wouldn’t even notice this ‘class mate’ mostly because I’m shy. > > So I guess… E none of the above. I’d ignore him. Uh, that was option B - turn back to your own work. So, in this case, we all should have just ignored you, as you would have to this new guy? I hope you understand what my point is. I think you’re learning, slowly. 🙂 Esprix * * * ## [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) ## “Never assume a malicious intent when stupidity will explain just as well.” {This space reserved for a Genuine WallyM7 Sig™} ---
**Author:** ![beakerxf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc79bd/32.png) [@beakerxf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beakerxf)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/69 "2000-04-20T05:38:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by The Urge: > > Ground speed… hmm no idea. Actually, I think the original question was intended as a joke. The “ground speed of a swallow” is a running gag in Monty Python’s Holy Grail. It’s a fun movie and I recommend it if you haven’t seen it already. Hmmmm, it’s a tough crowd in here. Here’s my take on The Urge: he was trying for an entrance that make his name instantly recognizable (and succeeded immensely). However, I also think the entrance misfired. What was intended as tongue in cheek was read literally by others. His initial post was taken as cocky, but to me his follow-ups came across as pretty reasonable (until he was pushed, in which case he just pushes back) Where others see a jerk, I see a young kid. Cut him some slack. Get to know him before you try to humble him. ---
**Author:** ![beakerxf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc79bd/32.png) [@beakerxf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beakerxf)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/70 "2000-04-20T05:47:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by beakerxf: > Where others see a jerk, I see a young kid. Cut him some slack. Get to know him before you try to humble him.\*\* Well damn. I didn’t see the posts where you unmasked him as a former troll. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/71 "2000-04-19T19:38:00Z")
I’ll let everyone else in on a little secret: **The Urge/OgreFade** has been banned for using two names and for threatening to spam the SDMB. If y’all want to check him out, there are several threads devoted to him in the Pit, and one in ATMB. That is all. Esprix, astounded * * * ## [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) ## “Never assume a malicious intent when stupidity will explain just as well.” {This space reserved for a Genuine WallyM7 Sig™} ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/72 "2000-04-19T19:40:00Z")
Don’t sweat it, **Breaker.** Welcome to the Greatest Show on Earth! (hey, Ringling Brothers got NOTHIN on the Straight Dope Message Board. We got clowns, performing animals, death-defying stunts, the best popcorn in town, and – ta da! Cecil Adams). ## Pull up a chair. It only gets better… 😃 “Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast!” - the White Queen ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/73 "2000-04-19T19:50:00Z")
I was banned eh?? I sent an email to TubaDiva telling her the truth. So your secret sucks Esprix. I wasn’t a former troll ever. I was a newbie. Now. I was called a troll. I still don’t beleive I am. Now as for you coldfire. You’ll have to wait on that. I’ll prolong that as long as I possibly can. I understand your point Esprix. Things didn’t turn out like I thought they would. As for beakersxf I’m sorry you’re dissappointed in me… I was never a former troll though. Those are the sort of things that piss me off. I wanted a fresh start. Wally thinks he’s great because he can check ICQ numbers. I put the same information twice. It was intentional. No I’m not trying to make myself sound smart. I knew it was a monty python joke as well. I still don’t know the true ground speed. I beleive it was the Air speed of a latent swallow. i’m not sure i remember right. The Urge ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/74 "2000-04-19T19:59:00Z")
“What’s the average air speed of a coconut laden swallow?” “African or European?” “ **I** don’t knoooooooooooooooowwwwwwww!” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/75 "2000-04-19T20:01:00Z")
And, just for chuckles, what’s a latent swallow? A dribble or a spit? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/76 "2000-04-19T20:09:00Z")
Evidently my error - in ATMB **TubaDiva** specifically said both names were banned. > [@](#): > > Originally posted by **The Urge** : > > I sent an email to TubaDiva telling her the truth. What truth would that be? > [@](#): > > So your secret sucks Esprix. No more so than yours saying we would be astounded by you. (Well, perhaps it wasn’t so far off the mark, but astounded not in the way you’d anticipated or hoped.) > [@](#): > > I wasn’t a former troll ever. I was a newbie. I think this might be more on the mark, but then, I wasn’t that familiar with your previous incarnation. All I know is you whine a lot about how unfairly you’re treated. I knew it was a monty python joke as well. I still don’t know the true ground speed. I beleive it was the Air speed of a latent swallow. i’m not sure i remember right. [/QUOTE] From [montypython.net](http://montypython.net): > [@](#): > > KEEPER: Heh heh. Stop! What is your name? > ARTHUR: It is Arthur, King of the Britons. > KEEPER: What is your quest? > ARTHUR: To seek the Holy Grail. > KEEPER: What is the **air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?** > ARTHUR: What do you mean? An African or European swallow? > KEEPER: What? I don’t know that! Auuuuuuuugh! > BEDEVERE: How do know so much about swallows? > ARTHUR: Well, you have to know these things when you’re a king you know. Esprix * * * ## [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) ## “Never assume a malicious intent when stupidity will explain just as well.” {This space reserved for a Genuine WallyM7 Sig™} ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/77 "2000-04-19T20:14:00Z")
Ya got me on that one, Esprix! Can’t remember **everything** I guess 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/78 "2000-04-19T20:17:00Z")
Ahh!! I new it was something like that. the Monty Python’ers have got some good stuff going on… ## The truth being I had two accounts. The Urge sometimes I run… sometimes I hide… ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2000, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/79 "2000-04-19T23:01:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by The Urge: > **Wally thinks he’s great because he can check ICQ numbers. I put the same information twice. It was intentional. No I’m not trying to make myself sound smart.** Don’t insult our intelligence. You fucked up, and we all know it. Quit being a martyr and make yourself useful around here, or make yuorself scarce. The “It was all in the plan” stance is running really thin, matey. ---
**Author:** ![Doobieous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Doobieous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doobieous)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2000, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219/80 "2000-04-20T01:05:00Z")
Tsk, tsk urge, for someone who is supposedly as good as Cecil, you sure couldnt answer any of the questions I asked. They’re not even hard to find information on either. I am so not astounded. 1. No idea I’m not a botanist. You don’t have to be a botanist to know this. I’m not one either. Some answers are: Piperia yadonii (Yadon’s Piperia), and Epipactis gigantea (Stream Orchid) 1. Crap. Once again I dunno. I have suspicions but I’m not real sure. Well son, suspicions don’t cut it. Answer is: the Philippines. Independance was won from Spain. 1. Crap… no diea. Sheesh, M basically gave away the second one. Answers are: Ilonggo - Philippines, Malagasy - Malagasy Republic, Minangkabau - Indonesia 1. Words that have the same meaning but are slightly differently depending on the usage. Sorta like sie and Sie, and the different genders of das der die … Nope, wrong. You have failed the grammar portion of the test. Strong verbs have a vowel change in the roots of inflected verbs: sing, sang, sung. Weak verbs are inflected with suffixes without inherited change of the vowel: work, worked, and having a past tense with a dental ending as in: brought. 1. No idea about the arabic Nabatean aramaic. 1. No idea. Four: shi-n-bu-n 1. No idea. Norfolk island is where it originates. Otherwise known as Norfolk Island pine (isn’t a pine though) 1. no idea I don’t think I’ve ever heard though. Colton Hall in Monterey. Jeeze, for a junior in college who is 19, i would have expected more from you than that. 1. No idea. San Carlos Borromeo De Carmelo Mission. It’s ranking is Basilica. 1. ideas… none. Buddhism. Nelumbo nucifera is otherwise known as the Sacred Lotus. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-just-let-you-in-on-a-little-secret/16219.md?page=5)