# I'll live to regret this, but here's the Semantle thread

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [March 29, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932 "2022-03-29T20:34:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/1 "2022-03-29T20:34:15Z")

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**Maserschmidt** told us about Semantle, [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game/956604/2536). There’s more details in that post, but as an overview, Semantle is a guess-the-word game, only based on semantic similarity rather than the letters it contains (as in the case of Wordle).

So as not to hijack the Wordle thread any further, I figured I start this thread.

I [got today’s word](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game/956604/2549) today’s word in 11. I’m going to play it over the next couple of days and see if it leads to me giving up in disgust. 😆

The game can be found [here.](https://semantle.novalis.org/) Anyone else want to give it a go?

From the other thread, **eschrodinger** , you said you had a word that got you within 17 of today’s. Just curious which word that was.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/2 "2022-03-29T21:17:00Z")

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I feel like that game did something weird to my brain. I hovered around a 23 similarity for about 35 tries (with plenty of negatives in there), hit one in the top 1000, then got it on the next try at #39.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/3 "2022-03-30T00:32:45Z")

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I did # 59 a few hours ago Detroit time. Got in high 40’s by 59 th guess. Trying to hurtle exceed outpace rocket (cold) then gave one up.  
I don’t see my stats but already #60 is up.

I started with same. Brain hurts where is the tip list?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/4 "2022-03-30T03:06:20Z")

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I feel like the game would be much better if it told you the 1000th word. Randomly typing until you stumble into the list simply isn’t fun.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/5 "2022-03-30T05:55:24Z")

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After bouncing wildly around between 0.50 and 60.82 in no particular pattern, hit it on try #14.

I suspect a great deal of luck is involved.

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**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/6 "2022-03-30T18:06:39Z")

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Just got Semantle #60. Took 80 tries, which wasn’t really an issue as I started it last night when **chela** pointed out that it was available, and then kept going back to it today when I needed a break from what I was actually supposed to be doing.

Really fascinating. The word is principle and and because it is polysemous (a word I just learned on the Semantle FAQ), it was quite the journey. I cycled through many senses of the word - legal and mathematical/logical - until I got there. Love this game. Really makes you think of the web of meanings a word can have.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/7 "2022-03-31T21:41:58Z")

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That was kind of fun. I got today’s in 43, but it took me a bit to catch on that you look for words similar to the ones you’ve scored highest on.

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**Author:** ![emulsified](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emulsified/32/2915_2.png) [@emulsified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emulsified)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/8 "2022-04-01T18:00:01Z")

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Personal best today of 21. Had a lucky early guess that got me to 970/1000.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/9 "2022-04-03T02:43:46Z")

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What a bummer this game was. ☹

I tried it once. I spent hours making guesses, I think over 200. I got really close but didn’t get it.

I went back the next day for the answer, and the answer was one of my early guesses. For some reason it didn’t count it. So I chased my tail for hours for nothing.

Thus sure is no Wordle. What a waste of time.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/10 "2022-04-03T04:00:05Z")

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Apparently getting the same word but as a different part of speech (say, noun instead of adjective) doesn’t count.

I found that out yesterday by giving up in frustration (if you give up, the site will tell you the word.)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/11 "2022-04-03T04:37:28Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Apparently getting the same word but as a different part of speech (say, noun instead of adjective) doesn’t count.

How can “present” be correct but not “present”? 🫤

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/12 "2022-04-03T13:24:22Z")

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– OK, I’ve got no explanation for that one at all.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/13 "2022-04-03T13:58:35Z")

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I’ve yet to solve this game. I’ve gotten the green bar within 976/1000 but remain stumped. Always surprised at the word and that the solution was not obvious to me.

I know I repeat guesses too.

It is somewhat meditative, I find my guesses often heading into space literally.

Today I started with chaste and now I’m up to miserly and have to get much much closer from there I don’t know where this one is going to end up.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/14 "2022-04-03T14:00:54Z")

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After 162 guesses, I’m at 994/1000. Not at all sure how to proceed. This is my first time trying it. Are spoilered guesses okay? I’d be happy to collaborate with other folks on it.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/15 "2022-04-04T16:06:33Z")

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I finally got there at 111. I find this addictive, but also frustrating; the use of many similar roots had me inputting a bunch of different word endings (see examples below in spoiler box, which does include the answer).

Still, the process of narrowing in, like a game of linguistic Battleship, is quite fun.

| 111 | cooperation | 100.00 | FOUND! |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 105 | collaboration | 60.83 | 998/1000 |
| 94 | partnership | 53.41 | 995/1000 |
| 84 | mutual | 48.95 | 985/1000 |
| 82 | agreement | 44.51 | 970/1000 |
| 80 | alliance | 43.78 | 964/1000 |
| 100 | accords | 43.03 | 957/1000 |
| 92 | accord | 42.17 | 949/1000 |
| 106 | collaborate | 40.46 | 944/1000 |
| 83 | pact | 40.32 | 942/1000 |
| 98 | partners | 36.52 | 895/1000 |
| 95 | partnering | 34.52 | 859/1000 |
| 97 | allies | 33.05 | 823/1000 |
| 81 | treaty | 32.41 | 803/1000 |
| 102 | deal | 30.79 | 730/1000 |
| 42 | support | 29.50 | 660/1000 |
| 96 | ally | 29.13 | 632/1000 |
| 86 | arrangement | 28.24 | 558/1000 |
| 108 | collaborates | 26.87 | 454/1000 |

ETA though I should probably pay more attention to successful word forms (noun, verb etc) as that’s indicative I think of the final form?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/16 "2022-04-05T23:33:54Z")

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Well, time to retire, I just got it in 8 tries. (neatly balancing out multiple runs over 150). Obviously a lucky start.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/17 "2022-04-05T23:42:29Z")

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Puzzle 66. Surf was my 5th guess cold and most similar out of 10 guesses before I gave up.

3 gu /5 dnf

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/18 "2022-04-06T17:07:27Z")

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Puzzle 67, found it on try 78. Didn’t find my way to a greenie until 52….

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/19 "2022-04-06T20:25:06Z")

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I played around yesterday with 66 to try and learn the game, but gave up to see the answer and try to figure out how it works.

Then I played 67 today and got it in 67. I like it.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-live-to-regret-this-but-heres-the-semantle-thread/961932/20 "2022-04-06T21:27:54Z")

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One of us!

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