# I'll phase you but good if you don't stop that

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 15, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368 "2005-06-15T13:15:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/21 "2005-06-15T17:29:30Z")

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Error’s with apostrophe’s really irritate me.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/22 "2005-06-15T17:32:54Z")

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“He got caught cheating on his wife?”  
“And with her sister, nonetheless!”

:smack:  
“He got caught cheating on his wife?”  
“And with her sister, nevertheless!”

:smack: :smack:

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/23 "2005-06-15T20:44:09Z")

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> [@Waverly](#):
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> Hitting something isn’t the answer. I suggest you try a different tact.

I agree.

Nuke them from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

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**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/24 "2005-06-15T20:54:58Z")

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I always use inflammable yarn for my knitting because I don’t want my firefighting grandkids wearing anything flammable.  
English sucks.

And sorry, I’m never going to remember the proper use of effect/affect. None of the ruberics work for me. It’s just impossible.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/25 "2005-06-15T20:57:00Z")

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> [@Pullet](#):
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> And sorry, I’m never going to remember the proper use of effect/affect. None of the ruberics work for me. It’s just impossible.

For 99.99999% of the times you want to use one, “affect” is a noun and “effect” is a verb. Does that help?

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/26 "2005-06-15T21:03:43Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> For 99.99999% of the times you want to use one, “affect” is a noun and “effect” is a verb. Does that help?

Doncha mean the other way around?

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/27 "2005-06-15T21:04:56Z")

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> [@Thudlow Boink](#):
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> Doncha mean the other way around?

No, but I did write 99.99999 where I meant .00001.

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**Author:** ![Hoodoo\_Ulove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58956e/32.png) [@Hoodoo\_Ulove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoodoo_Ulove)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/28 "2005-06-15T21:05:51Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> For 99.99999% of the times you want to use one, “affect” is a noun and “effect” is a verb. Does that help?

Outside of the percentage being way too high, you got that flat backwards.  
Usual:  
I tried to affect the outcome, but my efforts had no effect.

Rarer:  
To effect (bring about) a change in mood, take affect (pronounced AFFect) altering drugs.

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**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/29 "2005-06-15T21:10:43Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> For 99.99999% of the times you want to use one, “affect” is a noun and “effect” is a verb. Does that help?

So is this correct?  
“I am hoping for a big positive affect with this new face cream.”

“Affect” is the noun here, right? Because “hoping” is the verb? It looks wrong.

And appologies for the hyjack, but my ignorance must be fought! Blame those who never taught me how to diagram a sentence.

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**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/30 "2005-06-15T21:11:54Z")

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Okay, so it should be “I am hoping for a big positive effect with this new face cream.” Thought I was going crazy.

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**Author:** ![Hoodoo\_Ulove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58956e/32.png) [@Hoodoo\_Ulove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoodoo_Ulove)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/31 "2005-06-15T21:17:02Z")

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Merriam-Webster grudgingly says alright is all right, but It’ll always look alwrong to me.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/32 "2005-06-15T21:42:10Z")

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I am going to challenge someone to a dual.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/33 "2005-06-15T21:51:10Z")

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> [@abbeytxs](#):
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> Owwwww- my eyes, my eyes!! Stop that!

These kinds of threads always hurt my head.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/34 "2005-06-16T02:35:15Z")

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> [@Happy Scrappy Hero Pup](#):
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> People who use “affect” and “effect” incorrectly have no idea what a negative effect it has on others’ perception of their intelligence, and how that perception will affect them later.

I used to work at a newspaper where the editor forbade us from using either word – correctly or not – in any stories. His reasoning was that, even if we were right, plenty of idiot would-be proofreaders would try to correct us.

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**Author:** ![InkBlot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5e925/32.png) [@InkBlot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InkBlot)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/35 "2005-06-16T03:19:37Z")

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Ahem.  
**Irregardless.**  
I mean, what else is there, really?

InkBlot  
:eek:

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/36 "2005-06-16T03:47:25Z")

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It never even fazes me, because, ya know, I understand what they mean. Little thing called context.

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**Author:** ![uglybeech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/82dd89/32.png) [@uglybeech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uglybeech)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/37 "2005-06-16T04:10:41Z")

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OK Giraffe made me repost this here:

Obtuse is NOT obscure. In fact it’s not even what you really mean which is abstruse.

You are obtuse. Buddhism is not.  
You are obtuse. Sam Delaney is not.  
You are obtuse. Quantum physics is not.

God help me - God help us all - I’ve just read _three_ unrelated book reviews on amazon in the space of fifteen minutes which describe difficult books/concepts as “obtuse.”

The quotes:

> [@](#):
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> frankly, I think there is something fraudulent about a religion where people compete to show how enlightened they are by being as \*\*obtuse \*\* and incomprehensible as possible.

> [@](#):
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> This is a great science book for the non-scientific type. It makes very \*\*obtuse \*\* theories and concepts crystal clear for the lay reader…The triumph of this book is that it explains so many \*\*obtuse \*\* theories so clearly,

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> Hugo-and Nebula Award-winner Delany whose early books were fascinating but whose recent efforts have grown increasingly \*\*obtuse \*\* has been trying to get this pornographic novel published since 1973

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/38 "2005-06-16T12:20:28Z")

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A good parent **reins** in their child’s behavior and does not let the child **reign** over the household.

A good parent might also announce a new **regime** in which every family member follows a **regimen** of diet and exercise.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/39 "2005-06-16T12:55:06Z")

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I heard a local newscaster on the radio yesterday talking about some “racial _epitaphs_, including a _swasticker_”. I was outraged, but not in the way he meant me to be.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-phase-you-but-good-if-you-dont-stop-that/308368/40 "2005-06-16T13:28:34Z")

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I’ve _inventorized_ all these grammatical tips.

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