Interestingly, the incident in the Facebook post that inspired the “I’ll ride with you” hashtag was made up.
Ha! Priceless.
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According to Rachel Jacobs she thought about saying all that stuff but just walked up to the woman and then walked away.
The only people who “know” that are idiots. I’m not even Muslim, but I’m brown, and I experienced significant misplaced (not to mention misguided) anti-Muslim backlash after 9/11 (and to a lesser extent after other terrorist attacks.)
I thought you might have retracted this nonsense by now but it looks like you’ve actually doubled down on it. You’re an idiot.
Maybe I am an idiot, but numbers don’t lie. Anti-Muslim hate crimes are a rarity in the USA. Hate crimes in general are a rarity in the USA.
You should be HAPPY about that, but you’re not. How odd that you WANT to believe the worst of ordinary Americans, that you WANT to believe Americans are a bunch of bigoted maniacs eager to beat up innocent Muslims.
It’s not true. Sorry to disappoint you. You’re NOT in danger, no matter how much you want to be!
As the numbers upthread show, hate crimes in the US (and other English-speaking Western countries) are indeed rare, relative to many things–but not as rare as actual Muslim terrorism.
But both are components of the same pernicious evil, and warrant resistance.
My reading was that she wanted to say all that other stuff, apologizing for her presumptuousness in assuming she was afraid, racism in general, etc, but didn’t and instead just said the I’ll walk with you, but that passage was unclear at best.
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Really Not All That Bright, do NOT call other posters idiots in this forum. This is an official warning. Cool it down.
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Yeah, but they do exist. And it would be a good thing if the numbers, however low they may be, were lower, right?
Now, granted, there are things we wouldn’t want to do to lower those numbers, such, say, locking up all the white people. But the particular effort that’s got your nipples in a twist isn’t a government or police action. It’s just people going out of their way to be nice to Muslims.
Why does that idea bother you so much?
Oh, right! All your strawmen! I forgot about them.
NB: here in the real world, worrying about a bigoted backlash against a particular minority does not imply that the person thinks everyone in the majority is a blood thirsty bigot. Most people are capable of recognizing that, just as Muslim terrorists are a tiny percentage of the Muslim population world wide, violent bigots are also a tiny percentage of Western societies.
And just as the fact that the tiny percentage of Muslim terrorists are still a problem worth dealing with, it is equally true that the tiny percentage of Western bigots is also a problem worth dealing with. And unlike terrorists, dealing with domestic bigots doesn’t require military training or sophisticated hardware. As this particular movement demonstrates, it’s something literally anyone can do on their way to work.
So, why does that make you so angry again?
Neither are you. So, one last time: what, exactly, have you got wedged up your ass over this particular issue?
Sorry, back at you. Your excluded middle really misses the broader point of the discussion. Muslims are probably not in overt and immediate danger after each terrorist incident. However, claiming that there has been no backlash is a bit like claiming anti-black prejudice went away when the number of lynchings fell to below one a year. There are still a lot of ways that the backlash manifests itself short of physical violence. Not all vandalism gets reported. Rudeness in stores and bullying in schools rarely makes the police blotter. Cutting funding for Arab or Islamic studies programs in universities was a convenient way to deny struggling instructors tenure, (to say nothing of the utter stupidity of reducing the number of people who might be qualified to understand future situations so that we could gather intelligence on our enemies or communicate without gaffes with our friends).
The “ride with me” program (if it ever existed) may or may not have been an overreaction. However, the position that you have been staking out in this thread borders on xenophobia and is well into the land of denial.
I don’t know about hate crime statistics, but there has been a history of anti-Muslim feeling in Sydney for a while. A lot of it was targeted at Lebanese Muslim immigrants, who haven’t always integrated well. The Cronulla Riots in 2005 might qualify as hate crime. In the past, Muslim women have spoken on TV about being abused and harassed when they are out and about, so it’s not so unthinkable that it might happen more after this incident.
The OP mentioned that people should show sympathy for the victims who were shot - that happened too.
Another “incident” in France yesterday. The authorities are saying it is not terrorist related. Will it even be recorded as a “hate” crime? Im suspicious at the official figures of the number of terrorist incidents, the number of hate related incidents, and who is perpetrating these incidents.
http://www.thelocal.fr/20141223/driver-mows-down-christmas-shoppers-in-france
Well, OK; I wouldn’t ride with that guy.
Whoops. Thought this was in the Pit for some reason. Sorry, everyone, especially astorian.