# I'll say it: I am NOT hoping for a full recovery from any (Politician or media person) anti vax or masker that gets covid

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**Created:** [August 17, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040 "2021-08-17T22:17:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
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> [@tofor](#):
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> Well, the media probably is actually making mint off the pandemic as far as getting people to consume lots of news

Yep FOX is making BANK of it.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/42 "2021-08-18T22:18:38Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> And also let me say that I don’t wish death on anybody.

Y’all realize “wishing” death on someone doesn’t work, right?

Seriously. I’m sitting here waiting for a pizza. Just for yucks, I wished death on a woman sitting across the room from me _really hard_.

Nothing. Not. A. Thing.

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> Much as I dislike the policies of the governor, his getting regeneron was medically appropriate and follows CDC recommendations.

Actually, reading the website, it wasn’t appropriate. The website says you aren’t supposed to get it unless you have symptoms, which he didn’t have.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/44 "2021-08-18T23:55:05Z")

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ITA.

However, Gov. Abbott is in a ultra-high risk group, being a paraplegic. We’ll see what happens.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/45 "2021-08-18T23:55:55Z")

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You either have to have symptoms or have a high risk condition which includes being overweight (BMI \>25) according to the CDC. In addition, if you are a current or former smoker or have diabetes, hypertension or any of a range of other diseases you can qualify. I don’t know his health status but he may very likely have one of the qualifying conditions.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/46 "2021-08-18T23:56:12Z")

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Or health insurance, if you have it and they bill for it.

Someone on another website said that her daughter got her COVID shot(s) in a place that did, and they billed her health insurance for an administration fee of $38, which it paid.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Y’all realize “wishing” death on someone doesn’t work, right?

It does sometimes. 😊  
Cross me at your peril! I will wish stuff on you SO HARD.

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**Author:** ![tuesdayweld](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@tuesdayweld](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tuesdayweld)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/48 "2021-08-19T01:48:40Z")

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Place me in the column for one who will shed zero tears for sickness and/or death among the Pro-Covid crowd. This is a front row seat to large scale Darwinism and after a year and a half of having to deal with their stupidity and indecency, I don’t mind asking ‘please pass the popcorn, will you?’. All the better to thin that herd, IMOFO.

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In an ideal world, those sickened who end up recovering will actually learn from their ordeal, and become reformed people who spread the gospel of vaccinations and masking.

But practically speaking that’s not going to happen, so the next best thing is for COVID to deliver some “remember me” shots to those headcases, to quote a former NFL coach.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/50 "2021-08-19T07:17:54Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Y’all realize “wishing” death on someone doesn’t work, right?

This. (So I keep wondering why it’s against the rules around here.)

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/51 "2021-08-19T12:26:46Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Y’all realize “wishing” death on someone doesn’t work, right?

How about a different formulation?

Take this guy.

> **[Antigay, Anti-Vax Cardinal Raymond Burke Has COVID, on Ventilator](https://news.yahoo.com/antigay-anti-vax-cardinal-raymond-205139898.html)**
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> Burke has been a vaccine skeptic and encouraged Catholics to attend Mass in person despite the health risks, partly to combat transgender activism.

Sample excerpts:

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> _Burke has made many anti-LGBTQ+ statements throughout his career, in addition to criticizing Catholic politicians who support abortion rights and activists for the ordination of women. In March 2020, early in the COVID pandemic, he said Catholics [should attend Mass in person](https://www.advocate.com/religion/2020/3/23/antigay-cardinal-attend-mass-person-fight-gender-theory) despite the health risks, partly in order to combat “the pervasive attack upon the integrity of human sexuality.”_
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> _“We need only to think of the pervasive attack upon the integrity of human sexuality, of our identity as man or woman, with the pretense of defining for ourselves, often employing violent means, a sexual identity other than that given to us by God,” he wrote in a letter posted on his website at that time. “With ever greater concern, we witness the devastating effect on individuals and families of the so-called ‘gender theory.’ … There is no question that great evils like pestilence are an effect of original sin and of our actual sins.”_
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> _Burke has criticized vaccine mandates and repeated the conspiracy theory that the COVID vaccines contain a microchip, while also claiming the vaccines were developed “through the use of the cell lines of aborted fetuses.”_

I will not “wish death” upon this guy, because it’s pointless.

But _if_ this guy dies terrified and gasping… it will be a good thing.

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/52 "2021-08-19T12:41:36Z")

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Can you wish a big caramel iced coffee on me? I didn’t have time to stop at Dunkin this morning.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/53 "2021-08-19T12:57:18Z")

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Our thoughts and prayers are with you in this difficult time.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/54 "2021-08-19T14:11:14Z")

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Nothing to do with this topic, but I absolutely love Girlfriend. Absolutely brilliant guitar led pop album!

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/55 "2021-08-19T14:31:08Z")

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> [@tricoteuse](#):
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> Can you wish a big caramel iced coffee on me? I didn’t have time to stop at Dunkin this morning.

But if I do that, everyone’s going to want one.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/56 "2021-08-19T14:37:43Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> This. (So I keep wondering why it’s against the rules around here.)

Mostly, we don’t want posters threatening violence against each other, and we drew the line broad to prevent things like, “I didn’t say _I_ was going to push him in front of a train, I just said I hoped _someone_ would.”

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/57 "2021-08-19T14:47:29Z")

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Then how about a big hazlenut iced coffee?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/58 "2021-08-19T14:49:15Z")

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> [@tricoteuse](#):
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> Then how about a big hazlenut iced coffee

You really came off your initial negotiating position _awfully_ quickly, and without any kind of proper counter-offer.

😉

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/59 "2021-08-19T14:56:37Z")

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Ah, well…I’ll see what I can do.

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
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There is no time for diplomacy when you need a caffiene fix 😃

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