# I'll say it: I am NOT hoping for a full recovery from any (Politician or media person) anti vax or masker that gets covid **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 17, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040 "2021-08-17T22:17:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/121 "2021-08-24T16:58:09Z")
Rush Limbaugh notably played “Another One Bites The Dust” when Freddie Mercury died. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/122 "2021-08-24T19:01:46Z")
Plus, right-wingers actually shoot people. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/123 "2021-08-25T03:41:38Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > I cannot recall any Right-Wing nut wishing death by Covid on his political opponents. I’ve seen quite a few of them around the internet loudly hoping that their political opponents get killed by the COVID vaccine, though. (Which is a lot less likely to actually happen, but right-wing nuts are not known for their realistic grasp of scientific facts.) ISTM there’s not much of a case to be made for the proposition that right-wing nuts are nicer to their political opponents than vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/124 "2021-08-25T04:04:02Z")
And they are doing as much as they can to keep the disease spreading. Fuck vaccines, fuck masks, fuck social distancing, fuck anyone who advocates for them… ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/125 "2021-08-25T09:33:44Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > ISTM there’s not much of a case to be made for the proposition that right-wing nuts are nicer to their political opponents than vice versa. I certainly agree. Nasty is nasty. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/126 "2021-08-25T20:37:55Z")
Trying _really_ hard to feel sympathy here, but… > **[Conservative Lawyer for Jan. 6 Defendants Who Formerly Represented Kyle...](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/conservative-lawyer-for-jan-6-defendants-who-formerly-represented-kyle-rittenhouse-is-reportedly-on-a-ventilator-due-to-covid-19/)** > > “Mr. Pierce is in the hospital, we believe, with COVID-19, on a ventilator, non-responsive," John Pierce's colleague reportedly told a D.C. court. To sum up, this guy defended Kyle Rittenhouse (which is fine), appears to have scammed Rittenhouse and his family (not fine) and his creditors (also not fine), and repeatedly posted antivax drivel on social media up to the point he was hospitalized with COVID (just generally stupid). He is now on a ventilator and non-responsive. Get well soon…dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/127 "2021-08-25T22:15:40Z")
This guy is a complete and total grifter — in debt to the tune of several million, running sketchy fund-raising campaigns,etc — here’s a quick rundown [https://sunlight-reports.com/capitol-riot-lawyer-john-pierce-fired-again/](https://sunlight-reports.com/capitol-riot-lawyer-john-pierce-fired-again/) I wouldn’t be surprised if the “on a ventilator with Covid” was a flat out lie - these lawyers have shown a complete disrespect for the judges, court system and the truth throughout all these cases. They probably think pretending to die from Covid is great way to pwn the libs. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/128 "2021-08-28T19:43:03Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Unvaccinated rates in the US are higher in some racial groups that presumably trust the government less - but being a Trump supporter is a bigger factor than being a Republican, and this is a bigger factor than race. (Other divides include rural/urban, age, education, surprisingly females are slightly more skeptical than males). Where did you read this, please? This rings true to me, I would just like to read it for myself. Thanks Dan ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/129 "2021-08-28T19:46:43Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Plus, this thread is about politicians and media folk who spread anti-vax bullshit, not the ignorant people who slurp it up. Slurp it up, and then regurgitate it. Why deny the ignorant their moment in the sun? Dan ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/130 "2021-08-28T20:20:08Z")
Sorry, it was in a newspaper article and too long ago for me to remember exactly which one. Lots should show up if you Google “(demographic) factors affecting Covid vaccine hesitancy” or something similar. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/131 "2021-08-29T00:20:52Z")
What is that tiny, tinny sound I hear? Oh, wait–it’s the world’s smallest violin. > **[Caleb Wallace, anti-mask organizer and co-founder of the San Angelo Freedom...](https://www.conchovalleyhomepage.com/news/caleb-wallace-anti-mask-organizer-and-co-founder-of-the-san-angelo-freedom-defenders-dies-of-covid-19/)** > > Caleb Wallace, the co-founder of the San Angelo Freedom Defenders and West Texas Minutemen State Coordinator, has died from causes related to COVID-19, according to an update on gofundme by his wif… Quoth Caleb: “My health has nothing to do with you. As harsh as that sounds, but our constitutional, fundamental rights protect that. Nothing else.” “I’m sorry if that comes off as blunt and that I don’t care. I do care. I care more about freedom than I do for your personal health.” Rot in dirt, Caleb. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/132 "2021-08-29T00:28:40Z")
Here’s more on moron Caleb. (He was a sheep sauce sipper.) > **[Freedom Defender Caleb Wallace Dies of Covid-19](https://sanangelolive.com/news/health/2021-08-28/freedom-defender-caleb-wallace-dies-covid-19)** > > Caleb Wallace, the San Angelo man whose life came to define the revolt against government overreach in Covid-19 restrictions, died today of Covid-19. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/133 "2021-08-29T01:46:06Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Quoth Caleb: > > “My health has nothing to do with you. I’m glad we are in agreeance on this matter. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/134 "2021-08-29T03:47:20Z")
And another anti-vaxx radio personality is dead. Isn’t he the third in the past week or two? > **[Outspoken anti-vax radio host Marc Bernier died after three-week battle with...](https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vaxxer-marc-bernier-deceased/)** > > Yet another prominent conservative media voice has succumbed to coronavirus after arguing against public health measures like masks and vaccines. > > WNDB radio announced on Saturday night that anti-vax radio host Marc Bernier had passed away. > > After... ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/135 "2021-08-29T04:29:01Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Quoth Caleb: > > “My health has nothing to do with you I guess he never read or did read and didn’t understand the Preamble to The Constitution. “provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare” > **[The U.S. Constitution: Preamble](https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/us#:~:text=%22We%20the%20People%20of%20the,for%20the%20United%20States%20of)** > > The preamble sets the stage for the Constitution. It is an introduction to the highest law of the land; it is not the law. It communicates the intentions of the framers and purpose of the document. " ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/136 "2021-08-29T04:29:47Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > .” I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. I’m not capable of deriving pleasure from the sight, or even the thought, of _anyone_ dying like that. Anyone. I’m with Saintly\_Loser. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Of course, i also oppose the death penalty. But i can’t say that i feel a huge sense of sadness when i read that an influential anti-vaxxer died of covid. I hope he had good medical care, and pain management. But maybe, just maybe, some good will come of the death. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/137 "2021-08-29T12:12:57Z")
When people say that they hope that anti-vaxxers and ‘maskholes’ die of COVID, I think it needs to be viewed for the righteous anger that it is. We’ve given these people ample time to be responsible, not only with their own health but in protecting the health of others. But they don’t change, and they literally endanger everyone around them - us, our kids, our parents and grandparents, or friend with underlying conditions. We’re tired of it. I would rather they die first so that they can’t infect others, and so that maybe - just maybe - people in their orbit will wake up and start spreading the messages that, indeed, COVID is a disease to be taken seriously and to just shut the hell up and get the damn vaccine. Sometimes, rage that borders on psychosis is a completely justified, logical reaction to repeated outrages. I think this is one of those times. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/138 "2021-08-29T15:44:12Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > I guess he never read or did read and didn’t understand the Preamble to The Constitution. > > “provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare” > > [The U.S. Constitution: Preamble | United States Courts](https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/us#:~:text=%22We%20the%20People%20of%20the,for%20the%20United%20States%20of) Hrumphhh. Sounds like socialism to me! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/139 "2021-08-29T15:47:39Z")
Getting angry at the unvaccinated is a form of white privilege. > **[Column: I wish I could be angry with the unvaccinated. Being Black makes that...](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-28/getting-angry-covid-vaccine-holdouts-white-privilege)** > > There's a white privilege to denouncing everyone who refuses to get a COVID-19 vaccine. For those who are Black, there's systemic racism to consider. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040/140 "2021-08-29T19:34:41Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > This guy is a complete and total grifter — in debt to the tune of several million, running sketchy fund-raising campaigns,etc — here’s a quick rundown > > [https://sunlight-reports.com/capitol-riot-lawyer-john-pierce-fired-again/](https://sunlight-reports.com/capitol-riot-lawyer-john-pierce-fired-again/) > > I wouldn’t be surprised if the “on a ventilator with Covid” was a flat out lie - these lawyers have shown a complete disrespect for the judges, court system and the truth throughout all these cases. They probably think pretending to die from Covid is great way to pwn the libs. Update —- I was right, the dude was lying about having Covid and being on a ventilator. Link to my post in another thread. > [@Share your Covidiot stories](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/1095): > > I’m going to go on the record as saying I’m not sure I believe this - frankly, I think there is a good chance that this was just more of the contempt of court bullshit that has pervaded the court proceedings surrounding the Capitol riots. I can hear it now “I’m just not going to show up, tell that %&$# radical socialist n-word judge that I have Covid har har har. If they want me to call in, tell them I’m on a ventilator har har har.” Seriously, I don’t know why anyone believes a word that come… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ill-say-it-i-am-not-hoping-for-a-full-recovery-from-any-politician-or-media-person-anti-vax-or-masker-that-gets-covid/949040.md?page=8)