# Illegal Immigrants **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 24, 2003, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illegal-immigrants/157247 "2003-02-24T21:15:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illegal-immigrants/157247/81 "2003-04-03T23:58:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Susanann \* > \*\* > > I didnt say that naturalized citizens cannot be in the military, I said aliens should not be. Those same men of foreign birth can still join up, they just have to wait until they get citizenship first. I think we can wait a few years for those aliens to get their citizenship first before serving. > > If it is declared again, with a lot of aliens among our troops, particularly if the reason for martial law is a controversy over the Constitution itself, then it could be a potentially dangerous situation - not only with civilians against the military, but Americans in the military against aliens in the military. \*\* Now that the war is being fought I thought that this report adds something interesting to this debate: [Non-citizen war casualties](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030403/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_immigrant_soldiers&cid=540&ncid=1478) "Gutierrez, an orphan who grew up on the streets of war torn Guatemala, found a new life in the United States. His foster brother, Max Mosquera, said Gutierrez joined the Marines “to pay back a little of what he’d gotten from the U.S.” Garibay, who came to the United States when he was a baby, often visited his former high school, proudly dressed in full uniform. Both men were granted posthumous citizenship this week." [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illegal-immigrants/157247.md?page=4)