# Illinois governor race 2018

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 6, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006 "2018-01-06T22:55:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/41 "2018-02-04T06:16:51Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> The Democrats have veto-proof majorities in both houses, so you could put Jesus Christ in the governor’s office and he still couldn’t have gotten anything done.

Rauner has actively worked against getting anything done.

It was no surprise when Rauner ran for office that the Democrats would control the legislature. He claimed that he would work with them. That’s part of the job. He not only failed to work with them, he went out of his way to throw in poison pills, holding up the state budget for demands like union busting and term limits.

In the words of a wise chicken, “You know the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.” If Rauner never intended to do the job, he should have never accepted it.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/42 "2018-02-05T19:37:12Z")

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Here’s another article on Ives:

> **[Meet the Crackpot Republican Bigot Shaking Up the Illinois Governor's Race](https://splinternews.com/meet-the-crackpot-republican-bigot-shaking-up-the-illin-1822723490)**
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> Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner, who is running for reelection, is either a major disappointment or an outright disaster for his state, depending on who you ask. But based on the past 72 hours, Rauner is nothing compared to one of his Republican...

When I first saw her phobic-filled ad on the news, it seemed like a joke or something that the Onion would produce. I’ve seen it a few times on the air since and I still can’t believe it’s real. In her second ad she says that she was brought up to respect others, which doesn’t seem to be the case here.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPvL74fQvns)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/43 "2018-02-05T19:48:14Z")

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If you put Jesus Christ in the governor’s office, then he would accomplish whatever Jesus and the Democrats agree on. Which is actually quite a fair bit.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/44 "2018-02-24T04:15:39Z")

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Endorsements are coming in. Chicago Sun Times and Crain’s Chicago Business pick Pritzker for the Dems. Chicago Tribune picks Kennedy.

Crain’s and the Tribune pick Rauner for the Republicans  
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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/45 "2018-02-24T22:26:46Z")

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To round out the choices on the Dem side, there are also Tio Hardiman and Robert Marshall. I don’t know much about either, but Marshall wants to divide Illinois into 3 states – Chicago, Chicago suburbs, and the rest of Illinois. I have to say that if he wanted to split off the six-county Chicago metro area from the rest of the state, I might be in favor of it. (I live in Dupage County.). I don’t know why he wants to keep the city itself separate from the rest of the metro area.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/46 "2018-02-25T00:52:00Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> … I don’t know much about either, but Marshall wants to divide Illinois into 3 states – Chicago, Chicago suburbs, and the rest of Illinois. …

Well shit, I wonder if he realizes that if such a thing succeeds then there will be 2 addtional Republican voting states helping to tip the federal scales.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/47 "2018-02-25T23:00:28Z")

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I’m a very small sample of one, but it is interesting that I’ve received direct mail from the Pritzker campaign the last 3 days, nothing from Kennedy or Biss. I assume they use direct mail targets based on extremely likely voters such as myself that never misses an election.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/48 "2018-02-26T05:39:41Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Endorsements are coming in. Chicago Sun Times and Crain’s Chicago Business pick Pritzker for the Dems. Chicago Tribune picks Kennedy.
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> Crain’s and the Tribune pick Rauner for the Republicans

The Tribune’s fawning endorsement of Rauner (Poor guy, he tried REALLY hard but MADIGAN…) was so embarrassing that I can’t take their Democratic endorsement seriously. Crain’s has at least been willing to call Rauner on his shit during the course of his term and continued to do so in their endorsement which makes me think that their editorial board, unlike the Tribune’s, hasn’t been huffing airplane glue.

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/49 "2018-02-27T18:45:39Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Well shit, I wonder if he realizes that if such a thing succeeds then there will be 2 addtional Republican voting states helping to tip the federal scales.

I’m not so sure about that. The collar counties in general went for Clinton in 2016, and seem to be trending bluer. It could work that instead of one state that tends to be blue because so many voters are in the Chicago area, we could have 2 blue states and one red state.

I think the downstate voters would be happy about being able to finally get the Pub representation they want. I think though that it may not work out so well for them financially. Strip out the sales taxes received in the metro area and they’ll have a lot lower state revenue. I think too that even though the state income tax is a flat rate the amount the state gets per citizen is higher in the metro area since wages are higher there. Downstaters appear to think that their hard-earned tax dollars are going to support Chicago, while in actuality it’s the other way around.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/50 "2018-02-27T19:28:41Z")

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I did not see this earlier, but evidently Ives “crushed” Rauner in a debate in January:

[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-rauner-ives-kass-0130-story.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-rauner-ives-kass-0130-story.html);

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/51 "2018-02-27T22:50:40Z")

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Wow, the gloves are off! That video is over an hour long, I watched just over 20 minutes. I bet he’s not looking forward to debating her again.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/52 "2018-03-02T03:20:32Z")

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I generally don’t like ‘gotcha’ questions but Biss stepped in it tonight by completely flubbing the cost of a monthly CTA pass at $35. [Biss throws himself under the bus answering gov debate question on CTA pass - Chicago Sun-Times](https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/biss-throws-himself-under-the-bus-answering-gov-debate-question-on-expenses/)

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/53 "2018-03-02T06:38:05Z")

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Meh. Biss lives in Evanston, why would he know the price of a CTA monthly pass off the top of his head? I’m as middle class as middle class gets and I also don’t know the cost because, like Biss, I don’t live in the city so I don’t buy monthly CTA passes. Most of Illinois doesn’t use CTA. Compared to the cost of gas and milk and loaves of bread, the CTA one strikes me as a pretty lame question.

I’m likely not voting for Biss so it’s not about that. It’s just a bad question.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/54 "2018-03-02T15:21:34Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Meh. Biss lives in Evanston, why would he know the price of a CTA monthly pass off the top of his head?

Meh. The CTA operates in Evanston, both buses and trains.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/55 "2018-03-02T15:55:32Z")

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It doesn’t mean he’s using it. Big deal.

Point being that the other questions: Gas prices, child care, peanut butter, etc were all general things that are used state-wide. CTA is much more localized and, while they boast of 1.6 million rides daily (many of which are round trip, not 1.6 mil individual riders), it’s out of a population of over 9 million in the metro area. Just feels like a lame question.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/56 "2018-03-02T16:11:06Z")

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Yeah, Biss really stepped in it and revealed how little he knows about middle class living in Illinois :rolleyes: Let’s just ignore who lives in a regular home like a normal human being, and who lives in mansions that would make the Downton Abbey family blush: [https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Take-a-Look-at-The-Homes-of-Candidates-For-Illinois-Governor-475486433.html](https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Take-a-Look-at-The-Homes-of-Candidates-For-Illinois-Governor-475486433.html)

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/57 "2018-03-02T16:27:45Z")

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I agree the CTA question was pretty lame. I would expect someone running for mayor to know it, not someone running for governor.

Is there a good website that compares everyone’s positions? I still haven’t made up my mind.

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**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/58 "2018-03-02T16:50:54Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I agree the CTA question was pretty lame. I would expect someone running for mayor to know it, not someone running for governor.
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> Is there a good website that compares everyone’s positions? I still haven’t made up my mind.

> **[2018 Illinois Governor's race](https://www.ontheissues.org/2018_IL_Gov.htm)**

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/59 "2018-03-02T18:51:44Z")

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> [@pjacks](#):
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> [2018 Illinois Governor's race](http://www.ontheissues.org/2018_IL_Gov.htm)

That is one dodgy website, at least in terms of the election in question.

Pawar dropped out last October, Pritzker is listed as a Republican candidate, and candidates on both ballots aren’t listed at all.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illinois-governor-race-2018/806006/60 "2018-03-02T19:21:58Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> That is one dodgy website, at least in terms of the election in question.
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> Pawar dropped out last October, Pritzker is listed as a Republican candidate, and candidates on both ballots aren’t listed at all.

I agree, but it’s the best I could find.

It’s probably better to go to each candidate’s website to see where they stand on the issues. Or in Pritzker’s case, go to to Madigan’s website and see what he’ll be rubber-stamping as governor

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