# I'm a Democrat, and I'm voting for Trump in the primary. So should you. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 27, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288 "2016-02-27T13:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/161 "2016-03-02T06:23:08Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > In other words, it isn’t his actual last name and this isn’t really turnabout. Well if you want to _factual_… > [@jsgoddess](#): > > It’s turtle quoques all the way down. Over at the NYT, Upshot reports that “‘Donald Drumpf’ Is Beating Rubio and Cruz for Second in Google Searches”. I declare victory. Justen Wolfers: [INDENT][INDENT]And so I’m led to conclude — with my tongue somewhere in the vicinity of my cheek — that Mr. Oliver and his #MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain movement has executed a more successful campaign than either Mr. Rubio or Mr. Cruz. [/INDENT][/INDENT] I say Drumpf is funny, but has a rapidly approaching Sell-by date. Alas. We could still use a riposte to Trump’s hat. “Make American Sane Again” is heartfelt but lacks something. Surprisingly, the DNC’s “America is Already Great”, is the best so far. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/162 "2016-03-02T18:22:22Z")
NPR reported this morning that Trump’s massive support in Massachusetts is believed to be partially due to lots of registered democrats switching to republican before the primary. I have to wonder if the majority of that was democrats attempting to sabotage the GOP by voting for Trump. I disagree with the idea of intentionally sabotaging the other party’s nomination. If I were to vote in a GOP primary, I would vote for the candidate I most wanted to win. Nevertheless, I vastly prefer the idea that the democrats supporting Trump in MA were mostly trying to sink the GOP, rather than them being true believers. The idea that Trump can really sway the swing voters like that makes my blood run cold. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/163 "2016-03-02T18:26:38Z")
I would hope the same. BTW, I’ve been hearing that a number of Democrats are crossing over to vote Rubio in horror at the thought of Drumpf (or Cruz for that matter) winning the nomination. I disagree with helping them put up a more electable nominee who is still pretty bad on the merits, but I understand the impulse. If Kasich had a legitimate shot at the nomination, I might consider flipping around and going that way instead. But so it may be that my voting for Drumpf is just counteracting those faux Rubio voters and “returning balance to the Force”: i.e., helping it sort out just as it would without our interference. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/164 "2016-03-02T18:40:33Z")
People voting for the best candidate in a given field (even on a slid scale) isn’t “interference.” That’s what you’re supposed to do. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/165 "2016-03-02T18:42:05Z")
I am sure that the overwhelming majority of Trump voters, in all states, are people trying to help him win. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/166 "2016-03-02T18:42:20Z")
Even if you have no intention of voting for that candidate in the general election? ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/167 "2016-03-02T18:44:18Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Even if you have no intention of voting for that candidate in the general election? Absolutely. The debate, and the country, are better with the best possible candidates. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/168 "2016-03-02T19:21:47Z")
Something to keep in mind for those who quaver in fear of Drumpf and his seeming ability to banish naysayers and conquer the electoral landscape: > **[Can Republicans Still Take The Nomination Away From Trump?](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/after-super-tuesday-can-republicans-still-take-the-nomination-away-from-trump/)** > > It’s tempting to go granular after a night like Super Tuesday. What if Marco Rubio had won a few more votes in Virginia? What if Donald Trump had a few more in … > [@](#): > > Drumpf has received only 34 percent of the Republican vote, aggregated across all primaries and caucuses to have voted so far. He did not really improve on that figure on Super Tuesday; Drumpf had a combined 33 percent of the vote through the first four states (Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada); he got 34 percent in Super Tuesday states themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/169 "2016-03-02T19:32:52Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Something to keep in mind for those who quaver in fear of Drumpf and his seeming ability to banish naysayers and conquer the electoral landscape: > > [Can Republicans Still Take The Nomination Away From Trump? | FiveThirtyEight](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/after-super-tuesday-can-republicans-still-take-the-nomination-away-from-trump/) It’s one thing for you to think you’re cute by using something that is not Trump’s name; it’s another thing entirely to alter the text of your quotes to do so. The article you are quoting from used Trump’s last name, and there is no reason for you to change it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/170 "2016-03-02T19:39:12Z")
He’s installed an extension that changes it in every text box and web page he reads. He’ll never know if it actually catches on because in his world it already has. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/171 "2016-03-02T19:58:49Z")
I don’t “quiver in fear” of Trump, but I know that getting one step closer to the presidency is not what I want from that racist fuck. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/172 "2016-03-02T20:07:13Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Something to keep in mind for those who quaver in fear of Trump and his seeming ability to banish naysayers and conquer the electoral landscape: > > [Can Republicans Still Take The Nomination Away From Trump? | FiveThirtyEight](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/after-super-tuesday-can-republicans-still-take-the-nomination-away-from-trump/) I wouldn’t take too much comfort in that. He’s second choice for plenty of Cruz and Rubio supporters. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/173 "2016-03-02T20:09:27Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I wouldn’t take too much comfort in that. He’s second choice for plenty of Cruz and Rubio supporters. And even Republicans who claim they won’t ever vote for Trump are likely to be swayed by a general election. “Well, I wasn’t going to vote for him, but then I realized that the Supreme Court was on the line…” ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/174 "2016-03-02T21:02:03Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > The last point is moot. Bernie is done. No he’s not. Don’t mistake Hillary picking up Deep South democrats as evidence of a national sweep by her. Bernie picked up three out of four swing states. He’s hanging in there. Might yet be the Demcratic candidate. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/175 "2016-03-02T21:10:09Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > He’s installed an extension that changes it in every text box and web page he reads. He’ll never know if it actually catches on because in his world it already has. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/176 "2016-03-02T21:14:55Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > No he’s not. Don’t mistake Hillary picking up Deep South democrats as evidence of a national sweep by her. Bernie picked up three out of four swing states. He’s hanging in there. Might yet be the Demcratic candidate. She won big in all the big States. Sanders won big in a couple of small states. Do you see that flipping up north? ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/177 "2016-03-02T21:19:51Z")
The whole Comedy Central “Drumpf again” nonsense is the dumbest thing I have seen so far in this election cycle, and that is quite an accomplishment. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/178 "2016-03-02T21:34:54Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > The whole Comedy Central “Drumpf again” nonsense is the dumbest thing I have seen so far in this election cycle, and that is quite an accomplishment. It’s a John Oliver thing on HBO and it was actually a pretty funny comedic assault. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/179 "2016-03-02T21:49:23Z")
Indeed it was, and as I noted earlier, Oliver has a solid record of getting his fans to actually \*do \*stuff. Speaking of funny comedic assaults, [here’s one](http://www.theonion.com/article/smiling-nation-takes-moment-enjoy-thought-what-rnc-52467?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default) that underlines why I’m doing my little part to try to shore up Drumpf’s political fortunes, which 538 feels are slightly flagging after last night. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288/180 "2016-03-02T21:52:09Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > It’s a John Oliver thing on HBO and it was actually a pretty funny comedic assault. John Oliver is funny. His followers… lack his skills. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-democrat-and-im-voting-for-trump-in-the-primary-so-should-you/747288.md?page=10)