# I'm a Real Stoned Cowboy-Glen Campbell looking bad **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 27, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482 "2003-11-27T00:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/1 "2003-11-27T00:36:00Z")
Apparently time has not been kind to Glen, given his mug shot after being booked on charges of DUI and aggravated assault. [Article here.](http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1125campbell25-ON.html) ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/2 "2003-11-27T01:20:09Z")
He still looks better than Michael Jackson. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/3 "2003-11-27T01:21:11Z")
I saw the video of him in the clink. He looks like one mean drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/4 "2003-11-27T02:23:18Z")
I remember one time he was on Hollywood Squares. His trademark intro on his variety program in the late 1960s was a high-pitched “Hi, I’m Glen Campbell!” Paul Lynde did an impression of it. Doesn’t sound like much, but the way he did it was hysterical. In the picture, he looks sorta like that creepy guy that lives in the glass tube on the “Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.” ---
**Author:** ![Jplacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@Jplacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jplacer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/5 "2003-11-27T03:30:58Z")
The most interesting part of this story is that he was charged with “Extreme DUI” It would be better if it was spelled “X-treme DUI” ---
**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/6 "2003-11-27T06:33:39Z")
It really is a shame, since he had been working so hard to get his habits under control. I think he may have problems deeper than just addiction, and nothing short of serious therapy is going to help him. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/7 "2003-11-27T07:20:34Z")
I always got him mixed up with Pat Boone. Now I’ll be able to tell them apart. Pat Boone would _never_ knee a cop. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/8 "2003-11-27T07:27:19Z")
Nice picture. Ed Gein isn’t it? "If you see your brother standing by the road With a heavy load from the seeds he’s sowed And if you see your sister falling by the way Just stop and stay you’re going the wrong way You got to try a little kindness Yes show a little kindness Just shine your light for everyone to see" ---
**Author:** ![crazy\_grady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@crazy\_grady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazy_grady)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/9 "2003-11-27T11:39:36Z")
Does Arizona require people to sit on dildo shaped cacti during the mug shot procedure? ---
**Author:** ![Live\_Better\_Electrically](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/46a35a/32.png) [@Live\_Better\_Electrically](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Live_Better_Electrically)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/10 "2003-11-27T12:34:13Z")
Poor ol’ Glen isn’t completely burned out–he recently contributed a track to the new Louvin Brothers tribute album, and the current issue of _Magnet_ has a surprising (for an indie rock mag) interview with him regarding his new four-disc box set. ---
**Author:** ![Chavardz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Chavardz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chavardz)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/11 "2003-11-27T12:46:03Z")
Mugshots are always unflatering, I’m sure he looks like any other drunk. ---
**Author:** ![mailman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@mailman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mailman)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/12 "2003-11-27T15:02:05Z")
By the time I get to Phoenix, I’ll be drinkin’… ---
**Author:** ![Odeon\_Bypass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Odeon\_Bypass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odeon_Bypass)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/13 "2003-11-27T17:41:10Z")
Good song **mailman** , but I prefer the one that starts “I am an inmate for the county…” ---
**Author:** ![Mariemarie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58f4c7/32.png) [@Mariemarie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mariemarie)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/14 "2003-11-27T18:27:37Z")
[He still cleans up nicely though.](http://www.glencampbellshow.com/fanpix/images/ks_2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/15 "2003-11-27T18:50:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ddgryphon \* > **I think he may have problems deeper than just addiction** It doesn’t take problems deeper than addiction to result in a very bad outcome. Some rough statistics: For each addict/alcoholic who manages to get clean and sober, 2 do not and generally end up in prisons, mental institutions (fewer go here, and more to prisons these days), or prematurely dead. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/16 "2003-11-28T03:08:46Z")
Even if some get sober, sometimes the damage they have done to their bodies is irreversible-my favorite aunt and godmother, for one. She finally stopped drinking, was in AA, and doing really great-and then she got sick. Her body was still recovering from years of abuse and it killed her. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/17 "2003-11-28T05:17:02Z")
[Kind of reminds me of Wynonna’s recent mugshot.](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/wynonnajudd1.html) ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/18 "2003-11-28T06:16:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan \* > \*\*It doesn’t take problems deeper than addiction to result in a very bad outcome. Some rough statistics: For each addict/alcoholic who manages to get clean and sober, 2 do not and generally end up in prisons, mental institutions (fewer go here, and more to prisons these days), or prematurely dead. \*\* Do you have a cite for this? I worked with addicts as a psychiatric nurse and I recall that the reverse is true - the large majority of substance abusers eventually cease their abuse. I know that the numbers quoted by treatment organisations like AA indicate a more troubling picture but in fact the majority of people who cease abuse do so without recourse to formal treatment. [Here](http://books.nap.edu/books/0309040388/html/154.html#pagetop) for instance is a discussion about “spontaneous” non-treated remission amongst alcoholics. It states in part “In the population-based ECA study, for example, “remission” rates for all cases meeting DSM-III criteria for “alcoholism” averaged between 45 and 55 percent”. One of the psychiatrists I worked with used to stress that, “Our job isn’t so hard. For any given substance there are more former abusers alive than current abusers.” ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/19 "2003-11-28T17:31:27Z")
**don’t ask** , part of the problem is how one defines the subpopulation. For the bonafide chronic alcoholic/addict I believe they hold up. But too many “substance abusers” get put into the same statistical pot as those with what I consider to be a separate pool of people who really have the more virulent addictions. I guess it depends on how one differentiates between ‘substance abuse’ and the diagnosis of chemical dependency. Not every problem drinker or drug user merits the latter diagnosis. YMMV. Gods know the “experts” argue about it all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482/20 "2003-11-28T17:58:58Z")
And on further review of your cite, I note that we’re not that far apart anyway. I estimated 33% get well, they estimate 45-55%. Given the slippery nature of the diagnosis I think we’re both in the ballpark. And I still stand by my original assertion; that alcoholism/addiction _alone_ is more than enough to really cause major dysfunction. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-a-real-stoned-cowboy-glen-campbell-looking-bad/215482.md?page=2)