# I'm about to be banned,

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 16, 2000, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424 "2000-11-16T07:26:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2000, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/21 "2000-11-16T19:32:52Z")

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Ex-Tank…

hehehehehe…🙂

Man can she piss some of us off. I enjoyed reading your anti-Stoidela rants. Go over to the pit thread about stoidela if you want to read more anti-stoidela posts.  
I will miss your posts if you get banned, but I hope you stick around if you don’t. Don’t let stoi drive you off. I hadn’t even noticed her until about 3 days before the election. Now it seems like every 3rd thread in GD is started by her. She will tire and fade away. It would be a shame to lose a poster like you and replace it with a shill like stoidela.

I understand your anger at stoidela, but I think the ire directed at the mods is a _LITTLE_ misplaced. Trash her a little more in the pit and then forget about her.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2000, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/22 "2000-11-16T21:28:22Z")

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sigh…

I’d wanted to avoid the poster-moderator skirmishes that seem to be breaking out everywhere lately, but this is just too damn much.

From what I understand, Gaudere’s problem with ExTank was that he had insulted Stoidela in a GD thread, specifically with the words “frothing little goober”. Okay, directed insults aren’t allowed outside (and, judging from some recent rumblings from above, not even INside) the Pit; I do believe we’re all cool with that.

Then this thread began, in, as I recall, MPSIMS. Before the thread was moved to the Pit, manhattan posted a directed insult to ExTank. That is, unless you can somehow construe “ExTank displays idiocy” as complimentary or not directed at ExTank.

So, simple question: are the moderators above their own rules? Do y’all get to use a different playbook? I realize it ain’t our house and all, but I’m sure I’m not alone in saying that we mere posters would appreciate at least a pretense of fairness. Perhaps an up-front notice that we are subject to unfettered moderator insults in forums where responding in kind would be inappropriate? How about “WARNING: you may argue with moderators, but only with both hands tied behind your back”?

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**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2000, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/23 "2000-11-16T22:17:34Z")

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I hope they don’t ban you, ExTank. I’ll miss you when all the leftists like Stoidela start spreading misinformation and propaganda in a gun-control debate. Hang in there and fight the good fight.

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**Author:** ![NoVoiceMoreReasonable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c6cbf5/32.png) [@NoVoiceMoreReasonable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoVoiceMoreReasonable)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2000, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/24 "2000-11-16T22:19:39Z")

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**Ex-Tank**

Don’t let that sniveling little runt get you so riled up that you mis-direct your anger at the mods. Please don’t go. I have been reading your posts for a long while now, and think this board would be taking a huge step back if we averaged the loss of your posts and the gain _cough_ of stoidela’s posts.

Don’t do that to us Ex-Tank. Stay and fight the evil that is known as stoidela.

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2000, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/25 "2000-11-16T23:19:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Max Torque \*  
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> Then this thread began, in, as I recall, MPSIMS. Before the thread was moved to the Pit, manhattan posted a directed insult to ExTank. That is, unless you can somehow construe “ExTank displays idiocy” as complimentary or not directed at ExTank.  
> \*\*

You’re right of course. His comment comparing posting in the proper forum to Vietnam protests was too stupid and over-the-top to ignore, but I should have let the topic come to this forum before commenting on it.

I apologize for my mistake.

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**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2000, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/26 "2000-11-16T23:25:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by manhattan \*  
> \*\*
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> You’re right of course. His comment comparing posting in the proper forum to Vietnam protests was too stupid and over-the-top to ignore, but I should have let the topic come to this forum before commenting on it.
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> I apologize for my mistake. \*\*

Yet another reason why the “I hate Manhattan” fan club only has one member.

You be a good egg, Manny. Even if that does mean you are filled with Cholesterol

pat

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**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2000, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/27 "2000-11-16T23:33:42Z")

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ExTank,

I agree with the taking a step away for a week plan. I was getting a little wound up about the whole election thing and Stoidela. I took a break from posting.

And then I came right back in when I saw the pit thread:)

I guess I was fooling myself. Just take a couple more good blasts at her here in the pit and you will feel a lot better. I do.🙂

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2000, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/28 "2000-11-16T23:39:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pricciar \*  
> \*\*  
> You be a good egg, Manny. Even if that does mean you are filled with Cholesterol
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> pat \*\*

Shhhhh! I’m telling my doctor that that’s leftover carbs from the beer.

And thanks.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2000, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/29 "2000-11-16T23:52:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Max Torque \*  
> \*\*Then this thread began, in, as I recall, MPSIMS. Before the thread was moved to the Pit, manhattan posted a directed insult to ExTank. That is, unless you can somehow construe “ExTank displays idiocy” as complimentary or not directed at ExTank.
> 
> So, simple question: are the moderators above their own rules? Do y’all get to use a different playbook? I realize it ain’t our house and all, but I’m sure I’m not alone in saying that we mere posters would appreciate at least a pretense of fairness. Perhaps an up-front notice that we are subject to unfettered moderator insults in forums where responding in kind would be inappropriate? How about “WARNING: you may argue with moderators, but only with both hands tied behind your back”? \*\*

When one of our forum members exhibits bad behavior, we try to correct that bad behavior, not only for that member but for all our members. We have several ways of dealing with it, including talking to the offender privately and dealing with the problem publicly.

Manhattan chose to speak publicly about a problem on the board with a poster. It’s within his purview to do so, as it is for all moderators and adminstrators on this board. This is part of what we do; consider us the monitors of this little playground.

You can disagree with what we do and how we do it, but characterizing it as unfair is, well, unfair and misstates our meaning and purpose. It’s the nature of the enforcement beast. Whatever our rules and however we enforce them, there will always be someone that sees this site from a different perspective and I don’t know that we can ever moderate to their satisfaction.

And it’s not “unfettered . . . insult” either; to the contrary. Our mods show amazing restraint in some very trying situations. Working on this site often means holding your tongue in a lot of places and times when users have free rein. Again, that’s the nature of the beast and it’s what we have to accept to work here.

I hope this explanation is sufficient. And if you’re still not pleased, well, you’re in the right forum for venting about it.

your humble TubaDiva  
Administrator

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/30 "2000-11-17T00:07:31Z")

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> When one of our forum members exhibits bad behavior, we try to correct that bad behavior, not only for that member but for all our members. We have several ways of dealing with it, including talking to the offender privately and dealing with the problem publicly.

Oooooh, how cryptic is that?! Do tell, Tuba, what are some of the other ways?

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/31 "2000-11-17T00:07:48Z")

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Heck, Tuba, I know that the moderator’s job is largely thankless, I just wanted to make sure that the rules for calling one another “stammering half-wits” applied to everyone, mods and proles alike.

Manny, being the intelligent guy he is, admitted his error. That takes character not often found in these parts. Good form, sir.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/32 "2000-11-17T00:10:31Z")

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Scylla said:

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> Tradittionally you’re supposed to pick a fight with David B if you wish to commit Message Board suicide.

Thanks! I’m trying to maintain my Pit thread lead among mods, but lately I haven’t had anybody pissed off enough at me to start one. Manhattan has, in particular, been threatening that lead.

Hopefully, more people will listen to you and I can make sure I go into the new year with a solid lead.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/33 "2000-11-17T00:12:22Z")

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PunditLisa said:

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> what are some of the other ways?

We make them _moderators_!

It was the worst punishment anybody could think of…

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/34 "2000-11-17T00:16:54Z")

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David B, you sack of maggot-festering horse shit! You need to swallow a gallon of nitro-glycerin and then shove a vibrator set on “Full” up your ass!!!

(Do I get to be a moderator now? :D)

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/35 "2000-11-17T00:22:08Z")

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> Thanks! I’m trying to maintain my Pit thread lead among mods, but lately I haven’t had anybody pissed off enough at me to start one. Manhattan has, in particular, been threatening that lead.

Don’t worry, using search, I found four Pit threads with Manhattan in the subject and six with David B. You’ve still got a pretty solid lead.

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/36 "2000-11-17T00:43:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Max Torque \*  
> \*\* Good form, sir. \*\*

I appreciate you saying that about my postings, but _ **how come nobody ever says that about my golf swing???** _ :: sob ::

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/37 "2000-11-17T00:46:39Z")

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{whoosh} “good form, sir”

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**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/38 "2000-11-17T00:47:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by manhattan \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Max Torque \*  
> > \*\* Good form, sir. \*\*
> 
> I appreciate you saying that about my postings, but _ **how come nobody ever says that about my golf swing???** _ :: sob :: \*\*

Probably, because the bartender doesn’t appreciate seeing a golf club swinging at his head after he has cut you off. And everyone else is too busy running away and screamng to really comment.

pat

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/39 "2000-11-17T01:02:59Z")

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waterj said:

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> Don’t worry, using search, I found four Pit threads with Manhattan in the subject and six with David B. You’ve still got a pretty solid lead.

Only _two_ ahead?! No way! I demand a recount!

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-be-banned/41424/40 "2000-11-17T01:08:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by David B \*  
> \*\*PunditLisa said:
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> > [@](#):
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> > what are some of the other ways?
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> We make them _moderators_!
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> It was the worst punishment anybody could think of… \*\*

Hey hey hey! Where did I ever criticize the administration of the SD? Cites, GD boy! The only reason I’m a moderator now is because of months and months of sucking up, backpatting, hiney licking, and chocolate sending.

That’s the routine. Now, please slay us with your conspiracy theories, PunditLisa. We love them.

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