# I'm about to watch a ton of Angel!

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**Created:** [February 1, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441 "2007-02-01T18:47:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/21 "2007-02-02T19:34:59Z")

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My fiance and I found seasons 1-6 of Buffy and 1-4 of Angel for $17 apiece at CostCo. Full seasons. We bought four of them. You may now proceed to pat me on the back.

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**Author:** ![Amok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Amok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amok)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/22 "2007-02-02T19:54:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Autumn Almanac]  
I’m sure it will eventually. The deciding factor right now is that I’ve seen a bit of _Angel_ already and I _know_ that I like it-- I’ve never seen any _Buffy_ at all, so it’s more of an unknown quantity for me. That, combined with people telling me that the show starts out shaky and takes a couple of seasons to get going, makes me hesitant to jump in. I’ll get around to it sooner or later.  
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I don’t think there’s any problem really with watching _Angel_ first. I think _Buffy_ is the better show, but that’s just my personal view, and I’m sure some people will disagree.

About the only issue is that, while _Angel_ does a good job, I think, of letting everyone know who Angel (the character) is in its premiere, there are character appearances after that (Buffy herself on a few occasions, Spike, Willow, Faith, Harmony, Andrew, and maybe some others) where you may miss some things because you don’t have the background on the characters the show kinda expects you to have. But it’s mostly minor stuff. Oh, and there are a few cross-overs in _Angel’s_ first season.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/23 "2007-02-04T03:04:00Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]  
That is truly a brilliant little moment. Angel clapping his hands around in a circle is just comedy gold.  
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When my husband wants to make me laugh, he does that dance.

We tend to blend it with another episode, though. I call him “Numfar” when he does it. 😃

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/24 "2007-02-04T16:37:24Z")

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[QUOTE=CandidGamera]  
You’re in for a treat. With the exception of Season Four, I think Angel is pretty even throughout its run - high quality stuff.  
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Season Four?

Best.

Buffyverse.

Season.

Ever.

You must be crazy!

🙂

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/25 "2007-02-04T17:03:25Z")

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Favorite _Angel_ line (and I’m improvising here):

Lorne (who will only give Angel information if he speaks the truth): And why is it that you picked (the karaoke song) “Mandy”?

Angel (looking pained): Because it’s pretty?

Lorne (gleeful that he’s told the truth): Of course it is, you big sap.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/26 "2007-02-04T17:08:40Z")

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[QUOTE=PunditLisa]  
Favorite _Angel_ line (and I’m improvising here):

Lorne (who will only give Angel information if he speaks the truth): And why is it that you picked (the karaoke song) “Mandy”?

Angel (looking pained): Because it’s pretty?

Lorne (gleeful that he’s told the truth): Of course it is, you big sap.  
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I recently saw Andy Hallett, the actor who played Lorne, and he’s an extremely normal-looking – actually handsome – guy out of his makeup.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/27 "2007-02-04T17:40:39Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]  
That is truly a brilliant little moment. Angel clapping his hands around in a circle is just comedy gold.  
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Space used that clip as their _Angel_ promo for years. Including the Wesley canape-hackeysak. Good times, good times…

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> Another one of my favorite moments is the bashful demon with the big gulp. “Who’s there please?”

The Big Gulp demon! The reason I bought Season 3! Well, that and the [Burger Loa](http://swallowingshadows.nu/nefarious/lj/old/angel/loa2.gif)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/28 "2007-02-04T20:14:47Z")

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At least we will finally get the answers to the questions posed by the final episode. Joss’s _Buffy - Season 8_ comic launches this spring, and it all takes place post-Season 5 _Angel_.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/29 "2007-02-04T20:26:26Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
At least we will finally get the answers to the questions posed by the final episode. Joss’s _Buffy - Season 8_ comic launches this spring, and it all takes place post-Season 5 _Angel_.  
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Actually, it would be taking place concurrently. Angel lasted one season after Buffy did, so Buffy season 7 would have been concurrent to Angel season 4, with Spike’s sacrifice in the final Buffy episode leading up to his reappearance at Wolfram & Hart in the Angel season 5 premiere.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/30 "2007-02-04T20:29:09Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
At least we will finally get the answers to the questions posed by the final episode.  
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Man, I hope not. I don’t _want_ to know what happened to Angel and the MoGs beyond the (brilliant) final moment of _Not Fade Away_. I just watched it again yesterday and it’s such an amazing ending. I don’t want a Spike movie, I don’t want a Buffy continuation (because I thought that despite the problems in S7 the final moments there were amazing too), I’m perfectly happy with the ambiguity.

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**Author:** ![PastAllReason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@PastAllReason](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastAllReason)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/31 "2007-02-04T20:35:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Big Bad Voodoo Lou]  
Actually, it would be taking place concurrently. Angel lasted one season after Buffy did, so Buffy season 7 would have been concurrent to Angel season 4, with Spike’s sacrifice in the final Buffy episode leading up to his reappearance at Wolfram & Hart in the Angel season 5 premiere.  
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Jeez, you had to go and point that out, didn’t you? Though I was not \*\*at all \*\* happy with Wesley’s fate, on the whole I didn’t mind the way the series ended. (Of course I’m the kind of person who liked the end of St. Elsewhere, and in fact liked the ambiguity of the ending of the Buffy episode Normal Again). Still I wouldn’t have minded know whether: Spike made it through okay. All right, and maybe Angel too, a little bit. But mostly Spike.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/32 "2007-02-04T20:37:57Z")

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There have been Angel comics that dealt with what happened to the leads after the season 5 finale, but I’ve heard they aren’t very good and the art looks awful.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-about-to-watch-a-ton-of-angel/390441/33 "2007-02-04T21:16:47Z")

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Joss has said, and I quote:

“The actions here take place after _Angel_ Season 5 - it’s not the next day when we pick up. The fate of the _Angel_ crew will be revealed at that time.”

From SFX Magazine: If the series is a success, any chance of a _Firefly_ Season 2 comic? Or _Angel_ Season 6? All Whedon has to say to that is: “Man, I gotta write some new shows.”

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