I'm an idiot... and... a genius!

I think the chemistry of FS is sort of complex now-a-days, but my thinking is that it basically neutralizes the effects of soap, as Fabric Softener is acidic, whereas soap is a base. Clothes build up static electricity, because of all those free wheeling electrons (negative charge). The clothes just love to attract more of these electrons, building up an imbalance like a storm cloud… Pull off a wool or cotton sweater in the dark… So pretty, as those electrons spit out photons as they release all that pent up energy! The softener acts as a lubricant by holding an innate positive charge, destroying the static like opening the Ark of the Covenant does Nazis, allowing the fibers to stop repelling each other, and roll around in the hay together. The macro result being clothes that feels so niiiize.

So, my guess was that, like baking soda and vinegar, the softener would neutralize the soap, restoring the surface tension of water to normal, making sudsing go bye-bye.

Those with powers of chemistry, was I close?

You wife should be very happy with you- you washed the dishes really, really well and mopped the floor!

You so get me!

Lol. It’s wax in a liquid suspension. Know how when you have a really greasy pan from cooking hamburgers and you squirt a bunch of dishsoap right in there and it sort of makes a bleh grey foam, instead of copious white fluffy bubbles? Too much oil (grease, wax, whatevs…hydrophilic molecules) and the surfactant action of the soap is all used up breaking up the fat into teeny tiny blobs and there’s not enough left to make fluffy bubbles.

But yeah, chemically speaking, you’re close enough.

HA, yes… thank you, WhyNot.

So, in other words, hand/dish soap and softener are both emulsified fatty acids so that they can mix with water, but the properties of their formulation determine its pH balance (pushing hand/dish soap into the alkali by emulsifying it in a strong base), which allows soap to break down long molecular chains of oils/fats. Then, if needed, a softener can be used to restore a balance of fatty molecules, after soap’s done its job of washing the dirt away with the oil?

Yep. Or as I like to think of it in the shower with shampoo and conditioner, “Ah…thank goodness I washed all that oil out of my hair! Now, where’s the other bottle so I can put oil back on my hair?” :smiley:

It’s been so long since I had hair, I miss the feeling of conditioner. :wink:

Why couldn’t have high school chemistry had these kind of practical examples ? I got an A, but just found it boring in general. It’s these crisis in better living that bring it to life!!! :smiley:

Indeed, right?!

Indeed!

I would have said “Think MacGyver…THINK!!!”

I don’t know, myself. But now I finally have a reason to buy it.

I think.

This is by far my favorite thread this week. :p:p:p

Someone wittier than I should go threadspot it. :smiley:

You’ve just managed to completely eclipse the OP with this single line post and I think I love you for it.

I have to repress MacGuyver… last time he gave me advise, I blew up the garage with some fertilizer, a paperclip and some aspirin. All because some spilt motor oil. Asshole.

No kidding. If Dawn and Joy can be said to assertively fondle your olfactory bulb, then Gain bends it over the back of the couch and gives it a thorough rogering.

I was duly impressed with both your idiocy and your brilliance. Though the idiocy was funnier.

And I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who remembers The Fifth Element - that was gold right there, Lobohan.

My idiocy is always funnier, so long as you’re not an innocent-bystander, or there’s any manslaughter involved. So far, so good on the latter. For now.

I love The Fifth Element. Lobohan’s almost immediate rejoinder summoned an image no one can top.

I’m both happy and sad for you.

Thanks to this quote and my allergies, I rocketed snot out of my nose laughing at this. The dog was revolted, and he tries to eat garbage.

I keep coming back in here to read Lobohan’s quote and giggle myself silly, and Kolga just made me snort cold water out of my nose. THANKS