# I'm an old Canadian and America is starting to freak me out

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546 "2016-11-03T18:40:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/81 "2016-11-04T17:27:45Z")

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I guess I’m the only who’s noticed that Republicans have been in control of Congress of late.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/82 "2016-11-04T17:33:19Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> It’s Trump, so they’ll be bad checks and negative balances.

🙂

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/83 "2016-11-04T17:36:56Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Despite her picture being on some Canadian money?  
> :dubious: eh

You guys got money? Like, printed bills, and coins? Thought you just traded beads and beaver glands. Well, son-of-a-gun!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/84 "2016-11-04T17:42:29Z")

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What is a beaver gland worth, these days?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/85 "2016-11-04T17:43:51Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> What is a beaver gland worth, these days?

Two hogsheads of maple syrup.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/86 "2016-11-04T17:55:06Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Surely checks and balances will keep Trump from getting us into too much trouble.

Trump could absolutely result in protectionist legislation. Free trade needs champions right now. He’s the opposite of that.

And there are surprisingly few check and balances on a President and war. “Clear and present danger” and all that. The button is _designed_ to be easy to push.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/87 "2016-11-04T17:56:22Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> I guess I’m the only who’s noticed that Republicans have been in control of Congress of late.

Yep. You’re the only one.

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**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/88 "2016-11-04T18:03:35Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Surely checks and balances will keep Trump from getting us into too much trouble.

People keep saying this, but we’re talking about a man who has no understanding of how the government is supposed to operate, much less any trace of respect for anything that keeps him from getting what he wants the instant he wants it – and he’s backed by millions of frothing-at-the-mouth crazies.

If you think Donald Trump is going to respect any check or balance that impedes one of his harebrained whims, you’re kidding yourself – and if the Republicans retain control of Congress and the House, they will be all too eager to assist him in tearing down the system. They know they are losing the culture war, and this could be their last chance to forcefully cling to any meaningful power and influence. They WILL cooperate with him, if it comes to that.

This is not hyperbole. Look at Nazi Germany. Look at the Iranian Revolution of the 1970s – Iran went from one of the more progressive countries in the Middle East to a backwards, fundamentalist hellhole very quickly. Anyone who thinks it can’t happen here is a fool. Trump getting elected could easily be the first domino in a chain that leads this country to some very, very dark and ugly places.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/89 "2016-11-04T18:15:56Z")

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> [@Neo-Calredic](#):
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> …to some very, very dark and ugly places.

Mississippi?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/90 "2016-11-04T18:19:34Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Mississippi?

[Buzz Lightyear]

“Mississippi. Mississippi Everywhere.”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/91 "2016-11-04T18:43:16Z")

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> [@Neo-Calredic](#):
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> If you think Donald Trump is going to respect any check or balance that impedes one of his harebrained whims, you’re kidding yourself – and if the Republicans retain control of Congress and the House, they will be all too eager to assist him in tearing down the system.

May Republican Congressmen did not endorse him. I hope they would continue to disagree with him.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/92 "2016-11-04T18:43:42Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Surely checks and balances will keep Trump from getting us into too much trouble.

Checks and balances from the supine, feckless GOP “leaders” that have acquiesced to Trump? Have you not been watching this election?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/93 "2016-11-04T18:52:51Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> May Republican Congressmen did not endorse him. I hope they would continue to disagree with him.

I’m noticing a disturbing trend of Republicans saying they will not endorse him…but they will either go ahead and vote for him anyway or won’t say how they will vote.  
Listen, fuckwads-If you say publically that you are voting for Trump, that is pretty much the same thing as saying you endorse him, and you aren’t fooling anybody.

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**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/94 "2016-11-04T20:06:18Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> May Republican Congressmen did not endorse him. I hope they would continue to disagree with him.

These are the same people who were willing to shut down the government rather than pass a routine increase on the debt ceiling, and who are now refusing to even discuss the merits of a by-all-accounts centrist supreme court nominee. I’m afraid your hopes are ill-placed on this matter. Some of them are reasonable people, but that element has been marginalized by the fundies and the rest of the whackjobs.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/95 "2016-11-04T20:19:01Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> Back in the 60s, my peers(baby boomers) in Canada and the US seemed so progressive. We united in opposition to Vietnam and support for civil rights .

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> No, you didn’t. It may have seemed that way because of the loudmouthery involved, but neither issue had universal support from _any_ cohort, including boomers.

Even the guy that signed the civil rights bill into law didn’t believe in civil rights.

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/96 "2016-11-04T22:23:22Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> Thanks to Donald Trump it appears that a substantial group of these peers now have a great difficulty with having a black or female president

How do you figure? We just had a black President for two terms that nearly half America voted into office. Another half are about to vote for his successor, Hillary. How does that support anything you just said?

Or is it that if given the choice between a minority or a female, whenever the vote goes against the minority or female, that is itself racist and sexist?

How truly bizarre. Naive. And foolish.

> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> I could go on and on but it is clear to me that a radical angry America is emerging and it will stop at nothing to regain the exclusive privilege that many white Americans feel they are entitled to and take us all down in the process

The only radical angry anything I see are what you suppose will happen if we dare elect a white man. Apparently any other choice we’re golden, it just can’t be a white guy.

Only a few days ago I was reading a poster lament how as a white man he felt under attack from the left. Your post is a pretty good example why. We’re racists and sexists unless we vote for women and minorities.

> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> Oh, to the Trump supporters who read this : Go fuck yourself !!!

And here I got warned for telling someone that. Guess you’re working under those exclusive privileges you’re so adamant are all around and invasive.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/97 "2016-11-04T22:52:37Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> I feel your vibe.
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> Being a Canadian these days feels like living over a meth lab!

That’s funny!

Or it’s like being in The Walking Dead, except with more baseball caps.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/98 "2016-11-04T23:04:59Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> …And here I got warned for telling someone that. Guess you’re working under those exclusive privileges you’re so adamant are all around and invasive.

You were explicit. You had a specific target. You are allowed, grudgingly, to be a carpet-bomber, but not a sniper. My understanding of it, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/99 "2016-11-05T02:48:08Z")

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Is Trump even among the top 1000 most successful _businessmen_ in America, 1985-present? Since he has no public- or military-service record, or even a graduate degree, his biggest qualification to be president seems to be how loudly he says he WANTS to be president.

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**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-an-old-canadian-and-america-is-starting-to-freak-me-out/770546/100 "2016-11-05T03:28:21Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Once the baby boomers die off enough, things should start to improve. They have been in control too long and are trump’s biggest supporters. Once they are no longer a voting power and also not the majority of our politicians, things will improve.

Well you better hope this baby boomer stay around longer b/c there is no way in HELL I would had voted for Trump ! Not all baby boomers think the same ! I am sick of generalization a group of people !

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