# I'm ashamed of you people

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181 "2006-04-25T18:25:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/181 "2006-04-27T11:30:34Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Hear hear!
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> Yet another poster that manages to capture my depair with the current state of affairs the USA. And yes, as per usual disclaimer, I hope he’s wrong too.
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> I do get a bit of hope from lucid posts such as the one above…
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> _:::sigh:::_

THank you, my good sir!

Usually my posts are ignored, so I never know if they’re lucid or not.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/182 "2006-04-27T11:41:30Z")

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> [@Boo Boo Foo](#):
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> Haven’t been posting much lately… and this thread looked interesting… what with it being about The Rolling Stones AND President Bush at the same time. And yet, lo and behold, once again, somehow Miller feels compelled to remind us that he’s gay. Millers’ sexuality has got fuck all to do with this thread of course, but he just HAD to remind us yet again. Dude? Why not start a website dedicated to yourself? I’m sure those hits are gonna roll in.

Whatsamatter? Gay cowboy movie make you feel tingly in your pants?

Pay attention my drooling Aussie friend, **Der Douche** decided to tell us about the perils on being a White male liberal ( : snort : ) in California (HA!) so **Miller** decided to sarcastically one up him. Easy enough?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/183 "2006-04-27T13:04:52Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Purely anecdotal, but I can verify this on the personal level. The same people who wanted to lynch Clinton and said all sorts of things against him, on every possible subject, suddenly became superpatriots when Bush took over. Anyone who dissed Dear Leader became a traitor. Does the word hypocrite come to mind to anyone else???

(whines) But this is _war_time!

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/184 "2006-04-27T14:15:55Z")

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I want to hear **Clothahump** say that any sitting president deserves repect no matter their actions. Since lies and contradictions don’t seem to bother him, I might get my wish.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/185 "2006-04-27T14:49:07Z")

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**Clothahump**  
In the words of **Theodore Roosevelt** , perhaps our greatest President:

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> To announce that there must be no criticism of the president… is morally treasonable to the American public.

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/186 "2006-04-27T15:13:52Z")

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Big surprise! **Clothahump** is a crying little bitch because King George didn’t get his way. Why are the big, bad bomb, loot, and lie Republicans so goddamned whiney?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/187 "2006-04-27T15:29:09Z")

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OK, I’ll admit I’m easily entertained, but I really get a kick out of **Clothahump** ’s Pit threads. About once every three weeks, he finds some ridiculous news story, usually turning out to be half-true at best, that he thinks will finally reveal the majority of the members of this board for the hypocrites, degenerates and closet communists that he firmly believes they are. You can almost see the 20-watt light bulb going on over his head as he laboriously works out the proper degree of sarcasm with which to express his utter contempt for us, just as you can almost see his jaw clench and the veins stand out on his forehead as he realizes he’s completely mucked it up again.

Yet no matter how many times he’s shown to be a complete tool, a couple weeks later he comes back and does it again. He’s like one of those cartoon cats whose every action seems to wind up with a firecracker exploding in his face. It ought to be boring as hell but for some reason it just never gets old.

Maybe someday it will be revealed that his absurdly reactionary persona turns out to be nothing but a put-on, but until then, **Clothy** , please don’t stop. You’re part of the reason I resubscribed.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/188 "2006-04-27T15:38:45Z")

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What’s a “wetback”? From people’s reactions to **Clothahump** ’s use of it, I get the feeling it might not be something i’d want to google.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/189 "2006-04-27T15:40:57Z")

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> [@Revenant Threshold](#):
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> What’s a “wetback”? From people’s reactions to **Clothahump** ’s use of it, I get the feeling it might not be something i’d want to google.

a derougetory term for Mexican, coming from I believe the idea of ‘them’ crossing the river (Rio Grand) and ‘getting their backs wet’.

clever, witty, it’s not.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/190 "2006-04-27T15:42:34Z")

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> [@Revenant Threshold](#):
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> What’s a “wetback”? From people’s reactions to **Clothahump** ’s use of it, I get the feeling it might not be something i’d want to google.

It’s a derogatory reference to illegal immigrants from Mexico, based on the idea that they had to swim across the Rio Grande to get into the US.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/191 "2006-04-27T15:44:37Z")

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He said again redundantly. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/192 "2006-04-27T15:45:42Z")

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Ah, thanks. I never pegged Clothahump for a bigot… pretty damn partisan politically, yeah, but not bigoted. I guess i’m a poor judge of character!

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/193 "2006-04-27T15:49:36Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> He said again redundantly. 🙂

had I taken the time to check the dictionary, I’d have been after you…

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/194 "2006-04-27T15:54:29Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> It’s a derogatory reference to illegal immigrants from Mexico, based on the idea that they had to swim across the Rio Grande to get into the US.

So does that mean that illegal Canuckistanis are icebacks???

🙂

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/195 "2006-04-27T16:01:14Z")

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> [@Xploder](#):
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> So does that mean that illegal Canuckistanis are icebacks???
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> 🙂

Frostbacks actually.

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/196 "2006-04-27T16:16:25Z")

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> [@dnooman](#):
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> Frostbacks actually.

So then illegal eskimos in Canuckistan would be the icebacks, huh?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/197 "2006-04-27T16:31:45Z")

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> [@Xploder](#):
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> So does that mean that illegal Canuckistanis are icebacks???

Well, the ones sneaking into Michigan and New York would be wetfronts since they have to cross the Seaway to get here, but from the opposite direction\* that the Mexicans take, but I think the rest of them would just be dustbacks or snowbacks based on what blows them across the borders from the plains.

- Admittedly, those crossing at Detroit are going the same direction as the folks from Mexico, but we need to not break this up into too many different names.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/198 "2006-04-27T16:34:43Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> - Admittedly, those crossing at Detroit are going the same direction as the folks from Mexico, but we need to not break this up into too many different names.

Oh, you’ve just been bought by the oilback lobby. Damned shills.

-Joe, cornback

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/199 "2006-04-27T16:42:59Z")

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> [@Boo Boo Foo](#):
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> Haven’t been posting much lately… and this thread looked interesting… what with it being about The Rolling Stones AND President Bush at the same time. And yet, lo and behold, once again, somehow Miller feels compelled to remind us that he’s gay. Millers’ sexuality has got fuck all to do with this thread of course, but he just HAD to remind us yet again. Dude? Why not start a website dedicated to yourself? I’m sure those hits are gonna roll in.

Well, context never really has been your strong suit, has it? Try reading **Der Trihs** little pity post, and then read mine, and try to understand the connections between the two. It’s really not hard. Even you should be able to pull it off.

> [@](#):
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> I know, I know… I’m a dumb fuck and if I wrote down every bit of my knowledge here on this page, it wouldn’t take long at all. But you know something, Miller? If I wrote down everything BOTH of us know, it wouldn’t take any longer.

True enough, but only because you do not know what I know. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ashamed-of-you-people/354181/200 "2006-04-27T16:51:47Z")

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**Xploder**

> [@](#):
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> So then illegal eskimos in Canuckistan would be the icebacks, huh?

ahem … I believe the proper term to use for Native North Americans living in Arctic climates is Innuits.  
You used the ‘e’ word. :eek:  
You see what happens? **Clothahump** plays the bigot / race card and _everyone’s_ civility deterioates accordingly. A good example of one bad apple spoiling the bunch huh?

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