# I'm begging you, America!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343 "2016-02-17T15:22:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/121 "2016-02-19T15:53:43Z")

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> [@Living Well Is Best Revenge](#):
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> Your judgement isn’t exactly your strong suit.

Judgement? What has what you quoted got to do with judgement? People are posting a lot of factually incorrect claims about Trump and the nature of his success. I counter with the facts. What that has to do with judgement is anyone’s guess, unless perhaps you feel I should keep quiet because most of my audience doesn’t want to hear the truth about Trump and so it would be wiser to keep these facts to myself.

At any rate, do you quarrel with any of the things I said about Trump in the post you quoted?

If not, then you have no point.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/122 "2016-02-19T16:48:03Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Judgement? What has what you quoted got to do with judgement? People are posting a lot of factually incorrect claims about Trump and the nature of his success. I counter with the facts. What that has to do with judgement is anyone’s guess, unless perhaps you feel I should keep quiet because most of my audience doesn’t want to hear the truth about Trump and so it would be wiser to keep these facts to myself.
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> At any rate, do you quarrel with any of the things I said about Trump in the post you quoted?
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> If not, then you have no point.

The fact that you are supporting that ass clown for president is a reflection of your poor judgement. Even if he is a good businessman, which is debatable, he has no business being a serious candidate for president. But the republican party is such a shit show, he is the leading candidate. We live in sad times.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/123 "2016-02-19T17:04:40Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> I don’t want him has President because he’s unprincipled and egotistical and speaks/acts before he thinks.

Unlike Hillary who is unprincipled and egotistical who has speech writers and political aids who tell what to think based upon who she is pandering to.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/124 "2016-02-19T17:30:48Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Unlike Hillary who is unprincipled and egotistical who has speech writers and political aids who tell what to think based upon who she is pandering to.

‘That liberal hypocrisy’

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/125 "2016-02-19T17:38:33Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Unlike Hillary who is unprincipled and egotistical who has speech writers and political aids who tell what to think based upon who she is pandering to.

You didn’t need the last 22 words. You could have just substituted “politician.”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/126 "2016-02-19T21:10:33Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I support a lot of “liberal” ideas so that nonsense doesn’t apply to me. What I don’t like are some of the tactics and some of the guiding principles of the left. I’m not angry Obama is president.

Better watch out … any semblance of “reasonable” will be dealt with harshly 😃

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/127 "2016-02-19T23:12:20Z")

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I daresay the critical element is who Trump’s Vice-President will be, as he or she will end up taking over after President tries to sue America in order to evade his presidential obligations.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/128 "2016-02-22T14:42:58Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I daresay the critical element is who Trump’s Vice-President will be, as he or she will end up taking over after President tries to sue America in order to evade his presidential obligations.

So when Prez Trump and Veep Palin _both_ quit to go on the speaker circuit, do we get another election? Or do they get to appoint Ivana and Joe The Plumber to fill in?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/129 "2016-02-22T14:44:50Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> So when Prez Trump and Veep Palin _both_ quit to go on the speaker circuit, do we get another election? Or do they get to appoint Ivana and Joe The Plumber to fill in?

Speaker of the House.  
ETA: [Current order.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession#Current_order)

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**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/130 "2016-02-22T21:37:10Z")

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I’m waiting for him to turn into Howard Beale in _Network_.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/131 "2016-02-24T19:16:09Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> The problem of wishfully thinking that he is not what he appears to be now is that besides all his current associations he is not apologizing for very stupid and racist tweets; he has said before that his more liberal positions from the past have “evolved” (yeah I do think he missed a “d” in that word) and so we have what we are seeing today.
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> The point is that it is really wishful thinking to expect that Trump will do a 180 and dismiss all the sorry beings that supported him and made him president (becoming president remains a big if, but it remains a possibility). As a business man he will know about the debts he will have to pay.

Why? he has never been a stickler about paying his business debts, what makes you think he would feel obligated to pay his political ones?

Don’t get me wrong. I won’t be voting for him in the general but I think he is probably the most liberal candidate still running on the Republican side.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/132 "2016-02-24T19:44:06Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Why? he has never been a stickler about paying his business debts, what makes you think he would feel obligated to pay his political ones?

That is indeed just wishful thinking. Again, the debt that is accumulating is of a different nature.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Don’t get me wrong. I won’t be voting for him in the general but I think he is probably the most liberal candidate still running on the Republican side.

As Dubya noted in his latest bio, many did think that later Bush would at least get the notion of where he got things wrong, only to come recently saying that even if he knew what he knows know he would had done the same thing regarding Iraq.

One has to go for what the diseased yak is telling us what is making him tick now.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-begging-you-america/746343/133 "2016-02-24T19:53:50Z")

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I’m glad “diseased yak” is catching on.

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