# I'm beginning to dislike fake boobs. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 4, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747 "2017-08-04T04:51:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/61 "2017-08-07T14:55:15Z")
I really don’t get the concept that there’s deception involved in modifying one’s body and then showing off the modification. Especially when, according to the person claiming ‘deception’, it’s obvious that the modification has happened. Isn’t that the direct opposite of deception? I see nothing to support the idea that there is any deception. And a significant portion of most people’s looks are bought and paid for - clothes, makeup, jewelry, hairstyles, gym/trainer fees and time, etc. all cost money and/or require a significant chunk of time. If that is a problem, then you need to be upset at just about anyone who’s going out in public or making a youtube video focusing on their looks. Also the closing statement where the OP feels that women’s choices about how to manage their own bodily structure should be based on what’s attractive to him is… interesting. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/62 "2017-08-07T16:53:16Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Uh, “Winnebagos”? That’s a new one on me. That was from an old Steve Martin routine. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/63 "2017-08-08T05:39:25Z")
Done right they are appealing. However, I’m a bit worried about the dangerous and exaggerated lengths people will go to in order to please some perceived societal aesthetic. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/64 "2017-08-08T06:45:49Z")
A quite extended list of breast euphemisms, courtesy of Yahtzee Crowshaw: [Stonking Great tits!! - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlg7ywvn9V8) ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/65 "2017-08-08T09:48:05Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > People put on makeup to go out, and take it off when they come home, pretty much. Actually, no; while I know very few women who’ll put on makeup first thing in the morning, most of the makeup-wearers I do know won’t take it off until they’re getting ready to bed, if then. This is one of the reasons why “makeup you don’t need to take off” is so popular. As for cosmetic surgery in general, most of the people who claim not to like it are actually only talking about either bad jobs or the post-op stages when things haven’t quite reached the desired appearance. And then there’s the issue of corrective cosmetic surgery: again, most of the people who claim to dislike cosmetic surgery claim to have “no trouble” with implants after a mastectomy, and I’ve still to see someone who was against correcting harelip or a deviated septum. But alas, if the person who just got surgery to correct a deviated septum happens to be an actress, model or TV presenter, here come the criticising hordes\*! - Only if female, mind you. Apparently nobody looks at male noses. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/66 "2017-08-08T14:01:59Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I have been looking for that Manga for _ages_. Do you know the name of it? In Japanese it’s [巨乳平面説（きょにゅうへいめんせつ）](http://ja.uncyclopedia.info/wiki/%E5%B7%A8%E4%B9%B3%E5%B9%B3%E9%9D%A2%E8%AA%AC). Kyonyu heimen setsu. (lit. enormous breast flat explanation) It was published in Kairakuten Comic November Issue for 2006. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/67 "2017-08-09T15:38:01Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > A friend in Japan was really into large breasts. I felt sorry for him since they are very few. Rarer but they do exist. I’ve developed a taste for Japanese porn because big or small – unlike American porn – they are almost never “enhanced.” I’ve preferred smaller all my life. All I asked of a pair I get to play with is that they’re bigger than mine. As I’ve gotten older, this is harder to accomplish. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/68 "2017-08-09T16:41:03Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > In Japanese it’s [巨乳平面説（きょにゅうへいめんせつ）](http://ja.uncyclopedia.info/wiki/%E5%B7%A8%E4%B9%B3%E5%B9%B3%E9%9D%A2%E8%AA%AC). Kyonyu heimen setsu. (lit. enormous breast flat explanation) [The google translation](https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://ja.uncyclopedia.info/wiki/%25E5%25B7%25A8%25E4%25B9%25B3%25E5%25B9%25B3%25E9%259D%25A2%25E8%25AA%25AC&prev=search) of that page. What part of the body is the “isoflum”? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/69 "2017-08-09T17:06:19Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [The google translation](https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://ja.uncyclopedia.info/wiki/%25E5%25B7%25A8%25E4%25B9%25B3%25E5%25B9%25B3%25E9%259D%25A2%25E8%25AA%25AC&prev=search) of that page. What part of the body is the “isoflum”? From the name, I would expect it to be a line drawn along the region where the _flum_ has a constant value. You could then have a series of _isoflum_ lines, giving you a contour map of the _flum_ values. You could even tell the direction of the _maximum flum gradient_, which ought to be perpendicular to the _isoflums_. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/70 "2017-08-09T17:25:18Z")
I’ve found they generally fall into 4 categories; 1. Subtle, you can only tell by the shape, but they generally look good. 2. Beach Balls strapped to the chest. No thanks. 3. A grapefruit cut in half, nipples painted on and glued to the chest. Ugly. 4. Breasts should not be shaped like that. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/71 "2017-08-09T17:26:13Z")
New thread: “I’m beginning to dislike fake flums.” ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/72 "2017-08-09T22:02:13Z")
Has anyone here ever seen a man with pectoral implants? I haven’t IRL, that I know of, but I’ve seen a few pictures of male models who had them. They’re even more obvious than women’s implants, and IMNSHO they look awful. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/73 "2017-08-10T07:50:46Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > This is like how women wear makeup or sexy clothes or high heels for their own personal resons, quite apart from how others feel, right? > > And yet\*\* I haven’t met a woman yet who wears makeup, sexy clothes or high heels when she’s home alone\*\*, only when going out where others will see her. > > Colour me highly skeptical. How would you know? She’s home alone. You only see her when she’s out. And it would sure be a rude thing to ask. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/74 "2017-08-10T13:14:08Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [The google translation](https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://ja.uncyclopedia.info/wiki/%25E5%25B7%25A8%25E4%25B9%25B3%25E5%25B9%25B3%25E9%259D%25A2%25E8%25AA%25AC&prev=search) of that page. What part of the body is the “isoflum”? Obviously someone isn’t reading for context. The answer is clearly given in the sentence immediately following the part you quoted: > [@](#): > > In addition, by multiplying ischemia with skim milk , part hidden is visualized as actual milk . See? People claim that Japanese is so hard to understand, but it’s so clear！ OK, a little more seriously: The following tongue in cheek explanation is given in Japanese: 表面上見ることの出来ないバスト部分、これを **虚乳** と呼び、貧乳＝平面的と評される、見えているバスト部分の大きさなど所詮飾りであり、偉い人にはそれはわからない。表面上現れない部分＝ **虚乳** を含めた全体がバストである。 また、 **虚乳** と **虚乳** を掛け合わせることで、隠れていた一部が実乳として可視化する。 The machine translation can’t handle it. You saw the results, as follows: The bust part that can not be seen on the surface, called this is called the **skim milk** , the size of the visible bust part which is said to be _flat milk_ = it is a decoration, and for a great person it is not understood. The part which does not appear on the surface = the whole body including the **isoflum** is bust . In addition, by multiplying **ischemia** with **skim milk** , part hidden is visualized as _actual milk_ . I don’t know if you can see the Japanese, but there are some vocabulary which are relevant. 虚乳 = kyonyuu. This was translated as “isoflum” and also as “skim milk” and “ischemia.” The real meaning is “fake tits” including the results of pushup bras. Here is a manga showing it. Not NSFW unless having an [illustration](http://blog.goo.ne.jp/uruuru2/e/c04aa5c7da90200981cddbaf08fc3338) of a girl holding her breasts together to create cleavage isn’t cool at your work place. The pronunciation is the same as “巨乳” “giant tits” or big tits. The second character is the character for “milk” which is why the various words include milk as the translation. 貧乳 = binnyuu, flat chested. (lit. poor tits) ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/75 "2017-08-10T14:09:16Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > How would you know? She’s home alone. You only see her when she’s out. And it would sure be a rude thing to ask. Slightly off topic. I remember talking to my (platonic) friend on the phone: Me: “Hey, I was thinking about stopping by your place for a while. Figured we can order a pizza and watch a movie or something.” Her: “Okay, but I’m not wearing any make up and I’m in my sweatpants” Lol. How am I supposed to respond to a statement like that?: “Oh, not wearing any make up? Yikes! I’ll take a rain check on that Nicole” (That wasn’t my actual response. I just thought it was weird she felt the need to “warn” me.) ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/76 "2017-08-10T19:21:20Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > I really don’t get the concept that there’s deception involved in modifying one’s body and then showing off the modification. Especially when, according to the person claiming ‘deception’, it’s obvious that the modification has happened. Isn’t that the direct opposite of deception? I see nothing to support the idea that there is any deception. And a significant portion of most people’s looks are bought and paid for - clothes, makeup, jewelry, hairstyles, gym/trainer fees and time, etc. all cost money and/or require a significant chunk of time. If that is a problem, then you need to be upset at just about anyone who’s going out in public or making a youtube video focusing on their looks. I AM upset by those people! This thread was about vanity, not “self esteem” or breast cancer, whatever irrelevant crap others wanted to drag into it. Vanity used to be a _bad thing_, and now it feels like no big deal. Breast implants serve no purpose other than to augment one’s appearance. Whether that is to satisfy others or oneself, it’s STILL vanity. They are not the only example, they are just one of many. > [@](#): > > Also the closing statement where the OP feels that women’s choices about how to manage their own bodily structure should be based on what’s attractive to him is… interesting. What the hell are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/77 "2017-08-18T08:57:38Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Yes, but does this mean that women only wear makeup to please others? It could also mean that women 1) think they look put together when wearing makeup and 2) want to look put together when out in public. When they are alone and casual, looking put together might take a back seat to being comfortable, but it doesn’t mean it completely ceases to matter. So you agree with me that it’s about how they look. Which means you agree with me that people who say “how I look is irrelevant to my wearing of makeup, heels etc” are lying. Which is the source of my scepticism about those who have breast enhancement. So we are in agreement, right? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/78 "2017-08-18T09:11:59Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Depression. Comfort. Breast cancer. Confidence. Return to normalcy. Disorder. Clothes. Confidence again. Life changing. Fit the clothes better. Fit the wedding dress. For the experience. Self esteem. Not a single one of the people talked about what other people thought of them: only what they thought of themselves. They don’t show you are correct. They show you are wrong. Most of your post is purest waffle and/or accidental or deliberate misunderstanding of what I’m saying and I don’t intend to dignify it with a reply. The above is the crux of the matter. You ain’t gettin’ it. _Why_ does getting breast enhancement cure depression, make one confident, give a positive experience etc? Think a bit beyond the surface. Imagine someone said to you “I want more money because then I’ll be happy”. If you were thinking deeply about why money would make them happy, would you stop at "because it will make them happy’? Is that it? Is that as far as your thinking extends? Of course not. You would surmise (correctly I suppose) that they think money will make them happy _because_ it will give them greater security in relation to the necessaries of life, and of status and comfort and so on. Right? But in relation to breast enhancement, you are stopping (figuratively speaking) at “because it will make them happy” without going any further and thinking _why_ it will make them happy. Here’s a clue; imagine we were cave creatures who lived in total darkness and interacted by sense of smell. Do you seriously imagine that in such a world we would worry if one breast was larger than another? Or feel more confident because our breasts looked normal? Or stopped being depressed because we had young looking breasts? Use your brain. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/79 "2017-08-18T10:30:29Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > So you agree with me that it’s about how they look. Saying “makeup is about how the wearer looks” is like “paint is about how the wall looks”. Do you believe that people whose houses never get visited do not paint the inside? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747/80 "2017-08-18T11:22:56Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Saying “makeup is about how the wearer looks” is like “paint is about how the wall looks”. Do you believe that people whose houses never get visited do not paint the inside? [Paint is an extravagance!](http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/blackadder/images/5/50/Lady_Whiteadder.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120418203838) 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-beginning-to-dislike-fake-boobs/792747.md?page=5)