# I'm being pulled into Doctor Who...og help me! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 13, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486 "2011-01-13T18:14:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/41 "2011-01-14T14:12:16Z")
I grew up in the 70’s and also think of Tom "Would you like a jelly baby?"Baker as “The” Doctor. Although, I remember watching the episodes with the previous doctors as well. Doctor Who has always been quite popular in Canada along with Monty Python or Coronation Street. Back then we could watch it either on PBS or the CBC. I lost interest in the show sometime in the 80’s, I was excited when they brought it back with Eccleston and then Tennant but sadly lost interest again with the last season. My wife and I watched Torchwood as well and were disappointed that they ended the series prematurely. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/42 "2011-01-14T14:20:24Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Wait till you have kids before you do _Sarah Jane_. It’s great for sucking them into the Whoniverse. **Attacklad** and **Attacklass** are hard-core Who fans now, and SJA was the entry point. > > We’ve finished the reboot and are looking for a source for the Baker years. Any ideas? Netflix streaming has a respectable selection. The iTunes store is also a good source. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/43 "2011-01-14T17:22:06Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > My wife and I watched Torchwood as well and were disappointed that they ended the series prematurely. Torchwood hasn’t ended. They’re making series 4 as a co-production with Starz in the US right now. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/44 "2011-01-14T17:53:07Z")
> [@WotNot](#): > > On which topic, have you seen any _Sarah Jane Adventures_ yet? Nope. I did recently “meet” Sarah Jane in the “School Reunion” episode, but her character didn’t leave me wanting more. I wasn’t amused by K9, either. I might feel different after I’ve seen some of the original episodes that feature her, but I’ve been figuring that I might just skip that particular part of the 'verse… > [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Wait till you have kids before you do _Sarah Jane_. Then I _should_ just skip it! Brilliant! (No kids, and won’t be having any. :D) > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Don’t watch either of those stories until you’ve seen at least two other stories, preferably more, from each Doctor’s reign. Noted; thanks! > [@Candyman74](#): > > > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > > > Just imagine that the OP said “watching Doctor Who _where I happen to be_ had always struck me as being a whole other level of geek-ness.” > > But he didn’t. Why would I imagine he said something he didn’t? Well you’ve imagined that I’m a “he,” and you’ve managed to completely ignore my response to you and just continue bantering with the other posters (none of whom seem to have understood my point, either). Who knows what else might be going on in that head of yours. 😉 > [@Galanthus](#): > > Best Doctor Who wallpaper 😉 LOL! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/45 "2011-01-14T19:09:49Z")
> [@Misnomer](#): > > Well you’ve imagined that I’m a “he,” and you’ve managed to completely ignore my response to you and just continue bantering with the other posters Sorry - didn’t see it! It was buried in the middle of a long multiquoted post. I completely missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/46 "2011-01-14T21:03:03Z")
Netflix should have [The Key to Time](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Key_to_Time#The_Key_to_Time) (warning: contains spoilers - don’t read past the first two paragraphs), a 26-episode arc from the Tom Baker era. Four episodes were written by Douglas Adams, who also took over as script editor for the last serial in the arc. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/47 "2011-01-15T00:52:03Z")
> [@Misnomer](#): > > Nope. I did recently “meet” Sarah Jane in the “School Reunion” episode, but her character didn’t leave me wanting more. I wasn’t amused by K9, either. I might feel different after I’ve seen some of the original episodes that feature her, but I’ve been figuring that I might just skip that particular part of the 'verse… > > Then I _should_ just skip it! Brilliant! Watch the Baker series, then K9 and Sarah Jane will be dear to your heart. ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/48 "2011-01-17T15:46:29Z")
> [@WotNot](#): > > Torchwood hasn’t ended. They’re making series 4 as a co-production with Starz in the US right now. Between that and the BBC filming Doctor Who in Monument Valley (very smart marketing of BBC/Moffat & Co to do so), I’d expect that the stateside viewing numbers for BBCA will increase overall. Barrowman makes a very pretty front man for the importing of British tv product in general, and Torchwood has certainly grown up since it’s Monster of the Week format. ‘Children of Earth’ was completely awesome and if you haven’t seen it - run, do not walk, to your nearest Netflix and order it. FIY: T. Baker was my first and favorite. Eccleston is still the best doctor of the reboot. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/49 "2011-01-17T20:13:30Z")
> [@Candyman74](#): > > People seem to be trying to disagree with something, and I’m not entirely sure what. Yes, it may be unpopular where you are located; no it’s not unpopular in terms of how many people watch it. It’s more maintsream than, say, Firefly. Is this bothering anyone? Doctor Who, up until the reboot, was an obscure (and therefore not mainstream) show in the U.S. Seeing as the OP is in the U.S., her statement comes from the point of view of teh U.S. It doesn’t matter how mainstream it is in the U.K. It’s not mainstream here, and therefore the OP’s statement is correct, and your claim that she was wrong is incorrect. No one is arguing past each other. You are just using an odd definition of mainstream that apparently requires viewing the status of a work of fiction from the perspective of the entire world. The problem is, with that standard, Doctor Who is also not mainstream, and thus your argument falls apart. This is the U.S., and thus we are dealing with a much larger group of people. There are therefore more people for whom the show is not mainstream than there are people for whom it is. So it would make more sense for us to say that your locality’s mainstream status doesn’t matter, and the show is not mainstream. Or we could just admit that what’s mainstream is different depending on which culture you are referring to, and not tell the OP that her observations are incorrect. Does that make it clear what we are trying to say? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/50 "2011-01-17T20:24:11Z")
I just read through the above, and I’m afraid it might sound snarky. That was not the intent. It was a little frustrating trying to think of how to explain what I was saying, and I’m afraid a little frustration may have come out. I don’t see it myself, but I keep getting a nagging feeling that it is there, so I’m trusting my gut. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/51 "2011-01-17T20:29:36Z")
> [@Scubaqueen](#): > > FIY: T. Baker was my first and favorite. Eccleston is still the best doctor of the reboot. 🆒 _hi-fives **Scubaqueen** _ ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/52 "2011-01-17T20:53:45Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > As a kid I watched the Tom Baker Eps in the 70s. They were actually on a local station back then every Sunday morning for 2 hours. (Ch. 9 WWOR in NYC area) … You too? (Though my memory is 1 hour on Saturday mornings.) Bet [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Who_and_the_Daleks) and [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daleks_-_Invasion_Earth_2150_AD) are somewhere in your childhood memories too! CMC fnord! I too had a knee-length coat with a ridiculously long scarf and a [del][COLOR=“Black”]tire pressure gauge[/del][/COLOR] sonic screw driver. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/53 "2011-01-17T21:24:04Z")
Actually I had never seen those and never heard of them until I join the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![BunnyTVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BunnyTVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyTVS)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/54 "2011-01-18T01:07:55Z")
Once you’ve watched all of the reboot episodes, and maybe a few old-school ones, go back and watch “The Doctor Dances” again. [spoiler]Think of the bodycount the Doctor’s built up over 900 odd years. Then look at the joy on his face at the climax. “Everybody lives. Just this once, everybody lives!”[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/55 "2011-01-18T01:29:52Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Dang, I got the name wrong then. The two parter in WWII that introduces Capt. Jack. The scary gas mask shows with “are you my mommy?” is the one I meant. Incredibly good show. What got me was his unmitigated joy that: Nobody had to die Dude’s got a lotta baggage, I reckon. And it’s not Mr Smith that has all the potential…It’s Amy Pond. Growr! Eta: What **Bunny** said. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/56 "2011-01-19T17:47:47Z")
It has now been just about a month since I jumped into all of this: as mentioned in the OP I’ve watched all of _Torchwood_, and last night I finished Season 2 of the reboot. I had mixed feelings about Rose’s fate, but on the whole I think it was done well and I find myself looking forward to meeting Martha (she appeared in _Torchwood_, right?). A question about the season-ender (“Doomsday”), though:So the whole thing was that anyone or anything that had passed through dimensions would have that “stuff” on them, and be sucked into the void when the Doctor opened it. He avoided the void by hanging on to the super magnet thingy, but wouldn’t the TARDIS have been sucked in along with the Daleks and the Cybermen?? I’ll probably wait until I finish the reboot to watch any of the older episodes, though Who knows…I may get a Peter Davison craving and have to watch some of that. I’m sure I’ll watch the Baker stuff eventually, but likely not for a while yet. > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > > [@Scubaqueen](#): > > > > Eccleston is still the best doctor of the reboot. 🆒 > > _hi-fives **Scubaqueen** _ You know, one of my friends (a new friend; the jury is still out) called Eccleston “nearly unwatchable” (or “barely watchable,” or something like that). Even though David Tennant has grown on me and I now quite like his Doctor, I also really liked Eccleston’s! I may be developing a soft spot for him, though, as my first Doctor. 🙂 > [@BunnyTVS](#): > > Once you’ve watched all of the reboot episodes, and maybe a few old-school ones, go back and watch “The Doctor Dances” again. I really was able to appreciate his reaction the first time. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mcott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@mcott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcott)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/57 "2011-01-19T20:53:24Z")
If you’re liking the Doctor, listen to the music too. Obligatory [Youtube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=possDxrrj7M&feature=related) link. This goes to a piece from the Dr Who Prom (BBC Concert) from 2010. Click around after that, there’s tons of good modern classical in the Dr Who world. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/58 "2011-01-19T21:05:37Z")
> [@mcott](#): > > good modern classical Oxymoron. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mcott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@mcott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcott)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/59 "2011-01-20T01:29:03Z")
> [@Misnomer](#): > > Oxymoron. 😃 Not quite. 😉 James Horner, Murray Gold, John Williams, Bear McCreary. Good composers relegated to film and television. If you watch the clip linked above, you can see how people get enthralled by music - when the “vampire” with the parasol walks across the stage, look at Ben Foster (the conductor / orchestrator) as he moves. One of the few instances (OK, the only one) where I can look at someone performing and think “Dance, monkey, dance!” in a good way 🙂 He’s in tune with the orchestra, in his groove, and the giddy smile is perfect. There are several (subtle) levels to the Doctor, and that’s why I like the show, and the Beeb in general. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/60 "2011-01-20T04:06:33Z")
> [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#): > > What got me was his unmitigated joy that: > > Nobody had to die > > Dude’s got a lotta baggage, I reckon. > > And it’s not Mr Smith that has all the potential…It’s Amy Pond. Growr! > > Eta: What **Bunny** said. Plus, in the second part of the Tenant Season 4 ep “The Poison Sky” he makes a callback to the events in TLC/TDD, wearing a gas mask and asking["Are you my Mummy?"](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdjfpriATv4)😉 (26:30 into the episode) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486.md?page=4)