# I'm being pulled into Doctor Who...og help me!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 13, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486 "2011-01-13T18:14:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/61 "2011-01-20T04:10:41Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> Plus, in the second part of the Tenant Season 4 ep “The Poison Sky” he makes a callback to the events in TLC/TDD, wearing a gas mask and asking["Are you my Mummy?"](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdjfpriATv4)😉 (26:30 into the episode)

Gods that’s awesome! (And I missed that episode)

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/62 "2011-01-20T23:38:12Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> I’ll probably wait until I finish the reboot to watch any of the older episodes, though Who knows…I may get a Peter Davison craving and have to watch some of that. I’m sure I’ll watch the Baker stuff eventually, but likely not for a while yet.

There is a Doctor Who “short” / mini-episode you may want to see that has Peter Davison and David Tennant in it called _[Time Crash](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crash)_.

It was produced to raise money for a children’s charity, and has Davison reprising his role as the 5th Doctor running into the 10th Doctor due to a small TARDIS mishap.

(Tennant’s character says during the episiode: “You were \*my \*Doctor”, echoing Tennant’s own experience with Davison as the Doctor when he was growing up).

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/63 "2011-01-20T23:48:07Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> I really was able to appreciate his reaction the first time. 🙂

Me too. I caught about half of the second part of that serial on the original CBC airing, and even though I didn’t really manage to settle down and watch regularly until I rented the DVD box sets, that moment was what really won me over to Doctor Who.

Just this once, everybody lives. **I could use more days like this.**

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/64 "2011-01-21T02:09:36Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> Plus, in the second part of the Tenant Season 4 ep “The Poison Sky” he makes a callback to the events in TLC/TDD, wearing a gas mask and asking["Are you my Mummy?"](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdjfpriATv4)😉 (26:30 into the episode)

The **Attackkids** and I fell about the place when that happened.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/65 "2011-01-21T09:41:31Z")

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> [@Apollyon](#):
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> (Tennant’s character says during the episiode: “You were \*my \*Doctor”, echoing Tennant’s own experience with Davison as the Doctor when he was growing up).

He’s just got engaged to Peter Davison’s daughter Georgia.

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/66 "2011-01-21T23:08:40Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> I vaguely remembered there being a kerfuffle when David Tennant replaced Christopher Eccleston, so I had an idea that the Doctor character regenerated rather than died, but that’s all I knew about the show

> [@Misnomer](#):
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> _Then_, just a day or two ago, I learned that Peter Davison – who I loved as Tristan Farnon in _All Creatures Great and Small_ – played the Doctor for a few years in the '80s

Small tip. See all that Who between Davison and Eccleston (three Doctors, a couple of seasons of TV and one TV movie)? Don’t watch it. Not unless you’ve seen absolutely every last bit of Who before and after and are simply desperate to watch more, no matter how bad.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/67 "2011-01-22T04:23:04Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> He’s just got engaged to Peter Davison’s daughter Georgia.

And they’re going to have a baby! The kid’s father and grandfather will \*both \*have been The Doctor. If that kid ever gets into acting, talk about being born to play a certain role. 😃

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/68 "2011-01-22T05:34:44Z")

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> [@Pushkin](#):
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> Small tip. See all that Who between Davison and Eccleston (three Doctors, a couple of seasons of TV and one TV movie)? Don’t watch it. Not unless you’ve seen absolutely every last bit of Who before and after and are simply desperate to watch more, no matter how bad.

I always thought Sylvester McCoy got the short end of the stick. He had some really awful scripts, in my opinion, but I rather liked his take on the Doctor. And Ace was a capable companion, at least. But he never really had the chance to bring the series back after the Colin Baker years. I think the folks at the BBC had already pretty much decided the Doctor’s time was up by the time he signed on and were kind of phoning it in at that point.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/69 "2011-01-22T09:44:58Z")

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Of course, it was Colin Baker who got the really bad deal. He was in 8 stories, and they were possibly the 8 worst scripts in Who history. He was made a scapegoat, and sacked, which is unfair. Nobody could have been good given the material he had.

During the McCoy years, the scripts were gradually improving. By the end, some of them were above average. If the trend had continued, they might have actually been good the next year. But I never warmed to McCoy as a character or as an actor. He wasn’t that much of an actor to begin with. His background was as a presenter in childrens TV shows, basically clowning around, and hadn’t done much actual acting before Doctor Who. He was simply the wrong choice for the part, and the show might have had a chance at survival with someone else.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/70 "2011-01-22T19:17:13Z")

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My daughter is getting her picture in the San Antonio newspaper next month dressed as either a Companion or as 10 or 11. She is a BIG Doctor Who fan, to the point where the kids at school are tired of hearing her talk about it and tease her a bit - to which she just gets louder and brassier.

Anyway, we go to this monthly theater-dinner showings of Doctor Who episodes and the organizer has a friend who writes for the SA News-Gazette, this friend doing a feature on the [Doctor Who fan group](http://www.meetup.com/DoctorWhoFansUnite/).

[Sophie as 10](http://www.meetup.com/DoctorWhoFansUnite/photos/775950/#12059792).

[Sophie with the organizer](http://www.meetup.com/DoctorWhoFansUnite/photos/936095/#15350553).

[Sophie as Tennant in blue suit](http://www.meetup.com/DoctorWhoFansUnite/photos/808723/#12735422).

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/71 "2011-01-22T19:20:02Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [Sophie as 10](http://www.meetup.com/DoctorWhoFansUnite/photos/775950/#12059792).
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> [Sophie with the organizer](http://www.meetup.com/DoctorWhoFansUnite/photos/936095/#15350553).
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> [Sophie as Tennant in blue suit](http://www.meetup.com/DoctorWhoFansUnite/photos/808723/#12735422).

I think I just died of cute. Seriously, that’s awesome.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/72 "2011-01-22T19:41:26Z")

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Her “Mind the Gap” t-shirt was bought at [The Who Shop](http://www.thewhoshop.com/) while on a London trip. TWS also ships us regular editions of _Doctor Who Adventures_ magazine, to whom(?) Sophie has submitted pictures of her Doctor Who clubhouse (i.e., her closet, which has DW posters on the wall, figurines, K-9’s, books, magazines, comic, etc).

Like I said, the kid is a BIG fan and it’s something we encourage - after all, it’s not as if the 9yo is driving herself around looking for blue suits that would fit her. 😉

Here’s some more cute: [Sophie as Rose Tyler](http://www.meetup.com/DoctorWhoFansUnite/photos/743986/#11354790). Her dimples are just as pronounced as they were when she was a baby. While wearing this, she would always repeat a line that Rose said to the Doctor as he was riding a motorcycle, but for the life of me I can’t remember it. (yes, she expected the proper response…)

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**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/73 "2011-01-24T20:11:34Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> You know, one of my friends (a new friend; the jury is still out) called Eccleston “nearly unwatchable” (or “barely watchable,” or something like that). Even though David Tennant has grown on me and I now quite like his Doctor, I also really liked Eccleston’s! I may be developing a soft spot for him, though, as my first Doctor. 🙂
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> I really was able to appreciate his reaction the first time. 🙂

unwatchable?? :eek: your friend needs to see him in other projects. while i enjoy tennant, his acting is on a completely different level than eccleston’s.

rtd was an absolute genious for casting eccleston: a completely perfect choice to reboot the series - and i’m still quite sorry he only did one year of it.

for an american watching doctor who again after so many years, i was utterly floored by his doctor: dark, flawed, enigmatic. the last doctor i even remembered watching before the series vanished from our pbs station, was davison. very nice - but rather like a vanilla milkshake.

eccleston, on the other hand, is like dark chocolate and merlot. ‘fellow’ lady dopers, you know \*exactly \*what i mean. 😃

i had never heard of him before, of course, but right after i saw ‘rose,’ i wanted to know who the hell this guy was, and looked him up online. he’s one of britain’s most respected actors and absolutely fascinating to watch no matter what he’s in.

a master craftsman of acting, he generally picks unusual material to do and is mesmerizing in just about everything he’s been in. i’ve bought several of his films, including ‘jude,’ ‘revenger’s tragedy,’ ‘othello,’ and ‘parents.’

and, if i could get my paws on ‘our friends in the north,’ i’d buy that too.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/74 "2011-01-24T20:29:41Z")

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> [@Scubaqueen](#):
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> unwatchable?? :eek: your friend needs to see him in other projects.

I keep thinking that I need to follow up with him on that statement someday… 🙂

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/75 "2011-01-24T20:40:39Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> A lot of the early episodes are lost, or in such crappy condition as to be unwatchable. A good starting point would be _Robot_-the first Baker episode.

I beg to differ. All of the Jon Pertwee era stories are available (or will be in short order), and he’s an excellent doctor. I’d start there, with “Spearhead from Space”.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/76 "2011-01-24T20:53:05Z")

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Ack, I just discovered that “Planet of the Dead” is only available via instant streaming until this Friday: I’ll have to watch it out of sequence. ☹

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/77 "2011-01-24T21:26:47Z")

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> [@Scubaqueen](#):
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> and, if i could get my paws on ‘our friends in the north,’ i’d buy that too.

It’s available on the Amazon UK site. But, yes, one of the best dramas ever. Nobody who watched this would ever have dreamed than Dan Craig would have played Bond!

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**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/78 "2011-01-24T21:34:54Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> but wouldn’t the TARDIS have been sucked in along with the Daleks and the Cybermen?

It’s the _TARDIS_! The most powerful bit of technology in the universe. If it doesn’t want to be sucked in, then it doesn’t get sucked in (besides, it could simply dematerialise).

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/79 "2011-01-24T21:51:35Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> I beg to differ. All of the Jon Pertwee era stories are available (or will be in short order), and he’s an excellent doctor. I’d start there, with “Spearhead from Space”.

You think the Dandy and his “Whomobile” is the place to start?  
😃

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/80 "2011-01-25T00:38:14Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> He avoided the void by hanging on to the super magnet thingy, but wouldn’t the TARDIS have been sucked in

That would not have been possible. See, the TARDIS is held in place by-

Look! Monsters!

RUN!!!

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