# I'm being pulled into Doctor Who...og help me!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 13, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486 "2011-01-13T18:14:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/81 "2011-01-25T14:23:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You think the Dandy and his “Whomobile” is the place to start?  
> 😃

I saw the Tom Baker episodes first, but I enjoy Pertwee more. ALot of this is due to Roger Delgado’s Master. I can rewatch Pertwees numerous times, but if I watch a Baker, it takes quite a while before I feel up to watching it again.

The Baker era started off on the wrong foot with that horrible “Robot” serial.

Now if they’d started Baker off with Talons of Weng-Chiang…

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**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/82 "2011-01-25T15:00:51Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> It’s available on the Amazon UK site. But, yes, one of the best dramas ever. Nobody who watched this would ever have dreamed than Dan Craig would have played Bond!

really??? hmmm. last i checked it was unavailable. guess i need to check more often! 😃

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/83 "2011-01-25T18:47:52Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> The Baker era started off on the wrong foot with that horrible “Robot” serial.

Robot is a great story and the perfect start to the Tom Baker era. I saw it as a child on the original broadcast, and was instantly a Tom Baker fan. The only thing wrong with it is a couple of poor special effects, and that’s only a few brief moments. Even that is based upon comparing them to the much superior effects available today. But compared to other shows of the same date, they were not all that bad.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/84 "2011-01-25T19:30:50Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> I saw the Tom Baker episodes first, but I enjoy Pertwee more. ALot of this is due to Roger Delgado’s Master. I can rewatch Pertwees numerous times, but if I watch a Baker, it takes quite a while before I feel up to watching it again.
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> The Baker era started off on the wrong foot with that horrible “Robot” serial.
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> Now if they’d started Baker off with Talons of Weng-Chiang…

This was the first old serial for my kids and we nearly lost them right there. They love the new show but \*Robot \*has aged really terribly. However, somewhere along the way we tried later Tom Baker series and my son really likes them and my daughter fines them watchable.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Robot is a great story and the perfect start to the Tom Baker era. I saw it as a child on the original broadcast, and was instantly a Tom Baker fan. The only thing wrong with it is a couple of poor special effects, and that’s only a few brief moments. Even that is based upon comparing them to the much superior effects available today. But compared to other shows of the same date, they were not all that bad.

But you are buffered by fond childhood memories. It is a terrible one for a first time watcher.

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**Author:** ![franmachine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9de0a6/32.png) [@franmachine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/franmachine)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/85 "2011-01-26T02:27:21Z")

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Never mind this post…read my reply to your Joe Garagiola thing!  
I finally found someone who knows what I’m talking about!!!  
I was there too…except I SAW THE WHOLE THING!

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/86 "2011-01-27T23:07:32Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> This was the first old serial for my kids and we nearly lost them right there. They love the new show but \*Robot \*has aged really terribly. However, somewhere along the way we tried later Tom Baker series and my son really likes them and my daughter fines them watchable

One of the BBC digital radio stations (probably [BBC 7](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Radio_7)) had Baker read that story. As an audio only adventure, it played very well.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/87 "2011-06-28T02:30:36Z")

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**BUMP**

Yeah, so I’m bumping this because now Mrs. Mahaloth and I are being sucked into Doctor Who and I thought I’d look for some older threads on it.

We have started with the new revival of the show, the one that started in 2005 with Christopher Eccletson. Before this, I had seen a few episodes in the 1980’s(when I was little) and the 1996 movie(which I did not like).

Anyway, we just finished season 1 with Christopher Eccletson. We liked it. I wouldn’t say we adored it, but did like it.

How is David Tenant considered with Doctor fans? I think I’ve heard he is very popular, actually. I’m looking forward to him. I just am glad to be to the part of the show where we know the Doctor will last for more than 13 episodes.

Another question. The production values. In a way, it’s a throwback to the old show to use kind of cheesy costumes and so forth, but the first season of the show almost looked…too “1980’s” in production values. Torchwood, which we’ve seen most of, looks way more modern. Does Doctor Who raise the bar and go to HD quality and widescreen format? Season 1 seemed rather old fashioned to us. We streamed on Netflix, if you are curious.

Anyway, do people generally like seasons 2 and on better than 1? We’re quite excited.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/88 "2011-06-28T02:34:58Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> **BUMP**
> 
> Yeah, so I’m bumping this because now Mrs. Mahaloth and I are being sucked into Doctor Who and I thought I’d look for some older threads on it.
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> We have started with the new revival of the show, the one that started in 2005 with Christopher Eccletson. Before this, I had seen a few episodes in the 1980’s(when I was little) and the 1996 movie(which I did not like).
> 
> Anyway, we just finished season 1 with Christopher Eccletson. We liked it. I wouldn’t say we adored it, but did like it.
> 
> How is David Tenant considered with Doctor fans? I think I’ve heard he is very popular, actually. I’m looking forward to him. I just am glad to be to the part of the show where we know the Doctor will last for more than 13 episodes.
> 
> Another question. The production values. In a way, it’s a throwback to the old show to use kind of cheesy costumes and so forth, but the first season of the show almost looked…too “1980’s” in production values. Torchwood, which we’ve seen most of, looks way more modern. Does Doctor Who raise the bar and go to HD quality and widescreen format? Season 1 seemed rather old fashioned to us. We streamed on Netflix, if you are curious.
> 
> Anyway, do people generally like seasons 2 and on better than 1? We’re quite excited.

Have you seen the Empty Child yet? (squeeifnotyoureinforatreat!)

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/89 "2011-06-28T02:51:57Z")

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Since posting [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=611120), I have watched the first two seasons and am in the third. I’m still not sure how I feel about Tennant or the show in general… but I watch an episode every day. Yeah. :rolleyes: :o

Although I really enjoyed “The Shakespeare Code.” _“Expelliarmus!”_

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/90 "2011-06-28T02:52:38Z")

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> [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#):
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> Have you seen the Empty Child yet? (squeeifnotyoureinforatreat!)

Yep, it was good.

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**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/91 "2011-06-28T02:53:55Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> As they say, you never forget your first Doctor. Mine was Tom Baker, and that bit from _School Reunion_ left me a blubbery mess.

Very true. I can still recall being terrified by some of the Patrick Troughton (2nd Doctor) stories as a child – _The Wheel in Space_ and _The Abominable Snowmen_ in particular. Pity both those stories are now mostly lost, so I can never see them again…

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/92 "2011-06-28T03:13:30Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> How is David Tenant considered with Doctor fans?

He is adored. If there were any complaints about his run, it was over his Companions.

Personally I liked his enthusiasm and energy, the two things that stand out about his Doctor. Where the Ninth Doctor was a bit brooding and edgy, the Tenth is dynamic and decisive.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/93 "2011-06-28T04:06:24Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Personally I liked his enthusiasm and energy, the two things that stand out about his Doctor. Where the Ninth Doctor was a bit brooding and edgy, the Tenth is dynamic and decisive.

Great.

Oddly enouugh, this is what I remember telling my friends was the original theme for Doctor Who. 🙂

[I was wrong, but I remember this fondly.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdTELokKfCk)

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**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/94 "2011-06-28T06:53:13Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Another question. The production values. In a way, it’s a throwback to the old show to use kind of cheesy costumes and so forth, but the first season of the show almost looked…too “1980’s” in production values. Torchwood, which we’ve seen most of, looks way more modern. Does Doctor Who raise the bar and go to HD quality and widescreen format? Season 1 seemed rather old fashioned to us. We streamed on Netflix, if you are curious.

_Doctor Who_ didn’t get into HD until the 2009 special “Planet of the Dead”, but it’s been widescreen since Christopher Eccleston’s first episode.

If you’re not getting it in widescreen, there’s summat up.

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**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/95 "2011-06-28T07:30:44Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> He is adored. If there were any complaints about his run, it was over his Companions.
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> Personally I liked his enthusiasm and energy, the two things that stand out about his Doctor. Where the Ninth Doctor was a bit brooding and edgy, the Tenth is dynamic and decisive.

I’m going to disagree there, whilst Tennant tends to be adored by the squee-ing faction, to the more hardcore fans, he became less and less popular throughout his run.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/96 "2011-06-28T07:35:04Z")

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To each their own. But then, he’s \*my \*first Doctor, and you know what they say about your first Doctor.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/97 "2011-06-28T09:37:12Z")

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> [@sandra\_nz](#):
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> I’m going to disagree there, whilst Tennant tends to be adored by the squee-ing faction, to the more hardcore fans, he became less and less popular throughout his run.

I think part of the problem was the writing/show direction. RTD seems to be very marmite, I Know I’m definitely on the “didn’t like” side. I’m forever thankful for him bringing the show back, but I am very glad to see the back of his magic book of deus ex machinas/machinae/machinii/whatever.

Weird how everyone remember’s their first Doctor with a real sense of nostalgia. I probably saw some Tom Baker when I was very young, but for me it is all about Peter Davison (I was six when he started).

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/98 "2011-06-28T14:24:43Z")

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> [@sandra\_nz](#):
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> I’m going to disagree there, whilst Tennant tends to be adored by the squee-ing faction, to the more hardcore fans, he became less and less popular throughout his run.

Yeah well to a large amount of those “hardcore fans,” anything in the show that females like is automatically discounted as worthless. :rolleyes: They want the show to be for guys like them only and resent the fact that the show is now massively popular and has a large female following, so I would take the views of the “hardcore fans” with a grain of salt.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/99 "2011-06-28T14:29:41Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Yeah well to a large amount of those “hardcore fans,” anything in the show that females like is automatically discounted as worthless. :rolleyes: They want the show to be for guys like them only and resent the fact that the show is now massively popular and has a large female following, so I would take the views of the “hardcore fans” with a grain of salt.

I’d say that is very dependent on where you are talking about. Maybe in the US, where Dr Who is still relatively underground, but in the likes of the UK it is utterly mainstream and has been since the 60s. Even when it was off-air it was still culturally significant. In these places it isn’t “now massively popular” and has had a large female following all the time as it has always been a family show. Hiding behind the sofa because the Daleks are on screen is a right of passage for all, boys and girls alike, and has been for decades.

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**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-being-pulled-into-doctor-who-og-help-me/567486/100 "2011-06-28T14:53:42Z")

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Yep, and I certainly wasn’t giving any opinion on whether he is or isn’t worthy of adoration, I was just pointing out that the comment “He is adored” by Doctor Who fans isn’t necessarily true.

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