# I'm calling about your Car warranty

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 15, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752 "2021-08-15T23:45:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/22 "2021-08-16T06:04:48Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> And before you roll your eyes at me…

My apologies for bad formatting, this part was not meant for @Czarcasm. It was meant for @mikecurtis .

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/23 "2021-08-16T07:33:00Z")

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Thant’s o.k., I read it as such.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/24 "2021-08-16T20:55:25Z")

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> [@Somethingwitty1](#):
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> At the very least they are violating the FCC “Do not Call” rules.

Sadly, the Do Not Call list is a nice idea that has turned out to be utterly worthless.

Legitimate companies abide by it.

Scammers ignore it. And with caller ID spoofing, there’s absolutely no way to track down who has truly called.

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/25 "2021-08-16T21:02:51Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> I insist that they tell me which vehicle while they are insisting that they already have all my info in front of them

I don’t even OWN a car, and I get these calls. I’d love to ask them how much it would cost to buy an imaginary warranty on an imaginary car and if I could pay with an imaginary credit card. Alas, all I get are robocalls.

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/26 "2021-08-16T21:04:05Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> Sadly, the Do Not Call list is a nice idea that has turned out to be utterly worthless.
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> Legitimate companies abide by it.
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> Scammers ignore it. And with caller ID spoofing, there’s absolutely no way to track down who has truly called

I disagree, the do not call list works for exactly the reasons you state. The number of calls I get for legit businesses has dropped to almost zero (“can we install a furnace for you?” “Uhh, you just did last year, I don’t need another one!”). Remember the daily calls to change your long distance service?

The number of scam calls is of course at an all time high. Even if the service or product being offered is real, the purveyors are still proving themselves scammers by the very act of calling.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/27 "2021-08-16T21:22:21Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Those scam calls give me a few brief seconds of fun. I like to answer with “which car, I have three?”

I always know what car they are talking about. I proudly let them know that I have a 2016 Chevrolet Lickmynuts. It’s amazing how many times you can tell them Lickmynuts before they catch on, if you say it fairly fast it sounds like it could be a Chevy Equinox.

Even better if they repeat it back to you:

Scammer: Lickmynuts?

Dag: No, lick MY nuts!

Yeah, I’m twelve years old.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/28 "2021-08-16T21:27:29Z")

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I’m starting to get these calls on my landline at the office. The problem is, they’re spoofing area codes and numbers that are close to others’ that I do business with.

I once stayed on the line to demand that they put my number on a do not call list, and in halting English got, "I am sorry Sir. You have dialled the wrong number. I hung up and called our Security people to block the number through out switchboard.

Tripler  
I’ve been on travel the last two weeks, so let’s see how many unanswered calls I have waitin’ for me.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/29 "2021-08-16T21:27:33Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> I’m twelve years old.

I must be 10 or 11, then, because I am laughing uncontrollably at @msmith537 's “69 Dildo Explorer.”

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/30 "2021-08-16T21:42:42Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Even better if they repeat it back to you:
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> Scammer: Lickmynuts?
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> Dag: No, lick MY nuts!
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> Yeah, I’m twelve years old.

Hold onto your lugnuts, it’s time for a new warranty!

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/31 "2021-08-16T22:47:05Z")

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> [@Tripler](#):
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> …The problem is, they’re spoofing area codes and numbers that are close to others’ that I do business with.  
> … I hung up and called our Security people to block the number through out switchboard.

So far, most of the scam calls I get are from dead numbers - not sure how the scammers do that, but every now and then I’ll return a call just for laughs and it always gets “not in service”.

But it stands to reason that some numbers they spoof are real. Which means real numbers are getting added to call blocking lists. I predict that in just a couple of years, nobody will be able to get through to anyone on the phone because their number has been spoofed enough to get blocked everywhere.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/32 "2021-08-17T00:32:22Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> So far, most of the scam calls I get are from dead numbers - not sure how the scammers do that, but every now and then I’ll return a call just for laughs and it always gets “not in service”. -

Same way they spoof any number. I’m wondering if it’s a way around STIR/SHAKEN.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/33 "2021-08-17T07:48:07Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Same way they spoof any number. I’m wondering if it’s a way around STIR/SHAKEN.

How fully implemented in STIR/SHAKEN so far?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/34 "2021-08-17T10:46:19Z")

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No idea. I first noticed the “out-of service/disconnected” spoofed numbers several months ago.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/35 "2021-08-17T11:14:40Z")

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> [@Tripler](#):
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> I hung up and called our Security people to block the number through out switchboard.

I understand why you did that, but the number was undoubtedly spoofed and potentially belongs (or will in the future) a customer (or lead). Which is the real shitty part of the whole deal.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/36 "2021-08-17T11:19:39Z")

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I don’t even bother blocking numbers.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/37 "2021-08-17T12:18:15Z")

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I’m supposed to report any suspicious and/or telemarketing calls to our office lines. I don’t have “customers” _per se_, and I _wildly_ doubt that any spoofed number will be a future contact. Our phone numbers are pretty static. I’ll roll those dice, but If that number does need to be unblocked, the switchboard can unblock it. Besides, I have email contacts for anyone that can’t get through by phone.

I have a ‘name doppelganger’ that I often get cold-call sales pitches for (I’m throwing shade at you, “Monex Gold Commodities”) that while in their spiel, I blatantly interrupt them, told them they had the wrong **Tripler** and tell them to put me on their do not call list. It worked for the first set of calls, but the other **Tripler** ’s companies have been calling me with cold-call pitches on average of once every six months. Same deal: I deny knowing that person, and tell 'em to put this number on the do not call list.

Tripler  
I have a beard, so I must be the evil twin.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/38 "2021-08-17T15:42:32Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I’m wondering if it’s a way around STIR/SHAKEN.

What on earth is that? (aside from conflicting cocktail instructions for double-naught spies)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/39 "2021-08-17T15:43:55Z")

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STIR/SHAKEN

> **[Combating Spoofed Robocalls with Caller ID Authentication](https://www.fcc.gov/call-authentication)**
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> Caller ID authorization is a new system aimed at combating illegal caller ID spoofing. Such a system is critical to protecting Americans from scam spoofed robocalls and would erode the ability of callers to illegally spoof a caller ID, which scam...

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/40 "2021-08-17T15:46:54Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I don’t even bother blocking numbers.

I’ve taken to adding them to a contact on my phone called Telemarketers, Telemarketers 2 etc. I’ve got up to 4 such contacts now - each with several hundred numbers. It’s somewhat interesting to see patterns in area code / exchange. Obviously anyone using MY area code / exchange is a known telemarketer; I got quite a few some time ago with area code 757 (Norfolk area).

The Veridiots will occasionally show “potential spam” on caller ID, which is interesting, but quite rare.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-calling-about-your-car-warranty/948752/41 "2021-08-17T17:13:28Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I don’t even bother blocking numbers.

This. Why bother? They never spoof the same number twice.  
Be nice if call blocking facilities would allow blocking with wildcards, like e.g., block all 757-???-???? numbers.

> [@Tripler](#):
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> I have a beard, so I must be the evil twin.

Only if it’s a neatly trimmed evil satanic style goatee, to be sure.

As for STIR/SHAKEN/PASTEURIZED/HOMOGENIZED: Last I read on it (a few months ago), I got the impression that it was mandated to be fully implemented in the near future, at least by the major carriers, and was a work well in progress. Although I don’t recall what the specific timelines are. The cite linked by @running_coach is quite possibly the very site at which I read that.

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