# I'm concerned for Mike Pence's safety after leaving office

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 19, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909 "2021-01-19T19:23:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/21 "2021-01-19T21:24:01Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> He was in charge of the COVID team, with 400,000 deaths so far. If he doesn’t give a crap about that, or about the kids he help separate from their parents at the border, or about the gay people subjected to conversion “therapy” or about the AIDS rebound that happened because he killed off the needle exchange program in Indiana, why should I give a crap about his safety?

He could always turn ‘states evidence’. It worked for Henry Hill:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lQ0j5yGz7Bs/hqdefault.jpg "Goodfellas Final Scene") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ0j5yGz7Bs)

He’ll end up being a “schnuk” in a bland Midwest city, but then, that’s exactly where he came from.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/22 "2021-01-19T21:26:46Z")

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For Pence, they should give him a new identity and move him to Detroit or something.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/23 "2021-01-19T21:27:13Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Maybe he should go through anti-Trump conversion therapy, complete with electric shocks, like he advocated for gay people in Indiana. If he went through that, maybe, possibly I’d be slightly worried about his future.

Pray the orange away?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/24 "2021-01-19T21:30:22Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> He could always turn ‘states evidence’. It worked for Henry Hill:

I kind of regard Pence’s position as being equivalent to being a member of the Mafia. When you’ve knowingly joined a criminal enterprise and enthusiastically promoted it, I’m not going to be too distressed when other gang members want to rub you out for disloyalty. (This said, I don’t endorse or condone Pence being threatened in this way,)

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/25 "2021-01-19T21:39:54Z")

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Pence has certainly covered up for Trump on numerous occasions from his non-apology for various misogynistic statements to his attempt to manipulate the president of Ukraine for political gains.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/d48ykofwtgw/maxresdefault.jpg "Mike Pence’s Ignorance Defense | The Daily Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d48ykofwtgw)

When you lay down with dogs don’t complain when you get fleas. Especially the kind of dogs that follow Trump.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/26 "2021-01-19T22:43:54Z")

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Mea culpa.

Once **I** figured out what CFSG stood for, I liked it so much that – in writing or in speaking – I refer to him in No Other Way.

Which _is_ poor forum form, I’ll admit.

And now there’s a Beetlejuice element at play [1], where naming the thing might just resurrect it. We can’t know – not for sure.

I’d love to leave the CFSG behind, but – to the extent that he is still A Thing around here … I’ll still use CFSG as a reference.

But I’ll define it in my first use within a post … if’n I can remember. Because it’s a fair knock.

[1] [source](http://www.mtv.com/news/2807152/beetlejuice-sequel-2/)

> According to legend, if you say the name Beetlejuice three times fast, the magical trickster himself will appear before you.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/27 "2021-01-19T22:49:37Z")

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Oh, don’t misunderstand me, I _know_ Mike Pence is an asshole.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/28 "2021-01-19T22:50:51Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> You reap what you sow. Pence has long advocated policies of hate and intolerance. He chose to link his fate w/ Trump and his base. I’m confident in the protection his faith - and Mother - will provide.

Let us join hands and pray that leopards don’t eat his face.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/29 "2021-01-19T22:52:30Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> He was in charge of the COVID team, with 400,000 deaths so far. If he doesn’t give a crap about that, or about the kids he help separate from their parents at the border, or about the gay people subjected to conversion “therapy” or about the AIDS rebound that happened because he killed off the needle exchange program in Indiana, why should I give a crap about his safety?

As someone who had to put up with Pence for years here in Indiana, his vileness did not start with being Trump’s VP.

I would feel bad about Pence being assassinated because I’m opposed to assassination in general, not out of any respect or affection for Pence. So yes, I’d be OK with extended Secret Service protection for him and his family because successful political assassination would be a bad thing for the country

He played with fire. You do that, you risk getting burned.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/30 "2021-01-19T22:53:28Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> For Pence, they should give him a new identity and move him to Detroit or something.

Detroit has enough problems, they don’t need more.

Send him to, oh, I don’t know - Mitch McConnell’s house?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/31 "2021-01-19T22:56:32Z")

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I’m concerned for Mike Pence’s safety after leaving office

I offer Pence thoughts and prayers. And not much else.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/32 "2021-01-19T23:02:22Z")

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On the list of things I care about, Republicans killing each other is way down the list, it’s on the same level as gas leaks at the KKK headquarters.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/33 "2021-01-19T23:02:38Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Now that he’s leaving office in less than 24 hours, it seems to me that he’s in danger from rapid Trumpists.

…I mean, consider the likes of Ilhan Omar who had the President of the United States lead an angry mob to chant “send her home.” Sure. Pence is a target. But I don’t think we need to be more concerned for him than any of the other people that the President has put the crosshairs on. The people calling for Pence to be hanged are the same people that made AOC fear for her life during the storming of the Capitol. There is a much bigger issue at play here. The rationale behind making Pence, AOC or Omar targets is not based in reality. Which makes them more dangerous IMHO, and less predictable.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/34 "2021-01-19T23:11:20Z")

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There aren’t enough Secret Service people to even assign one to each of the people in this country that Trump has incited violence against. Join the crowd, Mike!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/35 "2021-01-19T23:51:48Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> On the list of things I care about, Republicans killing each other is way down the list, it’s on the same level as gas leaks at the KKK headquarters.

Very well said.

Politically motivated violence is a bad thing. Inciting it is a worse thing

Be a shame, a real shame, if somebody got hurt by a group that’s been nurturing, and been nurtured in, political violence for, I don’t know, 40 years now?

Worship the gun and the mob; die by the gun and the mob. Tough shit. They’ve all earned it.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/36 "2021-01-20T00:10:21Z")

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Poor Pence. Maligned by the Left AND the Right now. No place to call home. I won’t shed a tear for his predicament. My best hopes for him are to be out of the spotlight or awaiting trial for whatever laws he may have broken.

However, I think everyone here needs to take a deep breath and push back from the keyboard for a few minutes. We should NOT be wishing for harm or death on ANYONE. We are supposed to be better than that around here.

I fully understand hating on Pence for what he’s done, not done, and for what he believes and stands for, but we should not be wishing death or harm to him. On anyone. And I am surprised by the blood lust being shown here, TBH.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/37 "2021-01-20T00:15:35Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> I would feel bad about Pence being assassinated because I’m opposed to assassination in general, not out of any respect or affection for Pence. So yes, I’d be OK with extended Secret Service protection for him and his family because successful political assassination would be a bad thing for the country

My sentiments exactly.

I would add that if he lives in terror because he’s AFRAID of being assassinated, I won’t mind.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/38 "2021-01-20T00:24:48Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Do vice presidents get lifetime Secret Service protection after leaving office, the same as presidents?

The racist, lunatic, idiot morons who were threatening Pence have REALLY short attention spans. They won’t want to hang him for long once they realize that the new VP is… racial. Pence, who???

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/39 "2021-01-20T00:41:08Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> While I’m sure Trump would have cut him off, Joe Biden’s not they type to deny a former VP protection out of spite.

And this has the benefit of being exactly the kind of “heal the nation” cross-party cooperation that the US sorely needs, and it costs Biden very little, so if there is a credible threat to Pence six months out, it’s a lock that Biden will approve this.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-concerned-for-mike-pences-safety-after-leaving-office/930909/40 "2021-01-20T00:45:49Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> it’s a lock that Biden will approve this.

He’ll approve it for no other reason that he’s a normal, decent human being. We’re just coming out of an abusive relationship, so that’s hard to imagine at the moment.

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