# I'm confounded that no one is asking about the two ABORTIONS that Wendy Davis had. Is she a liar? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 30, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996 "2014-09-30T18:50:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/61 "2014-09-30T21:19:15Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > I will go on record here to say that I have never had an abortion. Show us your medical records, liar! ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/62 "2014-09-30T22:19:21Z")
Sure, I’ll talk about it. I think Wendy Davis is a courageous and honorable woman, bravely bringing forth an open discussion about abortion to people too squeemish to talk about it. Her wonderful and fulfilling life after the abortions validates her choice, it tells women they don’t have to be afraid, that they can live without regret or depression, that abortion is a terrific choice in some circumstances and not always the end of the world religious fanatics like to portray it is. Its entirely possible, and she is proof of it, that women can have abortions and great lives. Plus, I commend her for personally staunching the tide of overpopulation by just a little bit, and by aborting the next Hitler, she saved the world from a legacy of hatred and evil so vile that abortion may one day be the norm just to prevent that horror statistically by abortion half of all fetuses 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/63 "2014-09-30T22:25:13Z")
Does Wendy Davis use tampons or pads? I need to know for democracy! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/64 "2014-09-30T22:39:17Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Is “Men’s Right’s” and “feminism” this board’s new thing now? I’m not defending “men’s rights”, oh good lord, far from it. It’s just that it seems like every other year we get some issue that produces _way_ too much traffic. Because that’s what this is. Whether it’s blatant misogyny, “scientific” racism, **JDT** on circumcision, **Der Trihs** on atheism, somebody I forget on declawing cats, or goddman **Cesario** on fucking pedophila, we go through these cycles. > > Besides, I thought “rape month” ended a while back. Can somebody post a calender so I can plan for the next cycle? This one snuck up on my me. I dunno if it’s cycles, really. It’s mostly individual posters. Like, the whole “scientific racism” bullshit really died down a lot after **NDD** was banned. Right now we have a few particularly noxious shitbags, and when/if we get sick of responding to them or the mods get sick of them being around, this will fade into the background noise for a little while. Beats “creationist month” or “medical quack month” IMO. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/65 "2014-09-30T22:55:05Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Does Wendy Davis use tampons or pads? I need to know for democracy! She’s a _Texas_ woman! Cactus. ---
**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/66 "2014-09-30T23:28:53Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I was talking about this one - > Regards, > Shodan I didn’t realize that Texas bill banned late term abortions. But Davis is on record as being against those. Her filibuster, as she stated, was to stop the closing of abortion clinics. ---
**Author:** ![Amberlei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@Amberlei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amberlei)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/67 "2014-10-01T00:03:49Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Do you have a cite that they were legal before the bill was passed? Because all the articles I have been able to Google say that this bill did, in fact, constitute a ban on abortions after the 20th week, along with the other restrictions. Section 1.42 of Senate Bill 419, effective 9/1/2005, enacted by the 79th Texas Legislature, states: > [@](#): > > (a) A physician or an applicant for a license to practice medicine commits a prohibited practice if that person: > … > (18) performs an abortion on a woman who is pregnant with a viable unborn child during the third trimester of the pregnancy unless: > (A) the abortion is necessary to prevent the death of the woman; > (B) the viable unborn child has a severe, irreversible brain impairment; or > (C) the woman is diagnosed with a significant likelihood of suffering imminent severe, irreversible brain damage or imminent severe, irreversible paralysis [http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/79R/billtext/html/SB00419F.HTM](http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/79R/billtext/html/SB00419F.HTM) Because it was already illegal to obtain a late-term abortion in the majority of instances prior to 2013, I believe this was tacked on to the 2013 House Bill 2 to ensure fodder for use against the opposition. Instead of seeing the opposition as critical of the new mandates, the uneducated masses are easily led to the fallacious belief that opponents of the bill must be in favor of the already illegal late-term abortions. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/68 "2014-10-01T00:53:05Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > Wendy Davis made it a story, the public has the right to ask a few questions especially about public officials who have aspirations to be governor. Public officials who have aspirations to be governor? Like Greg Abbott, her Republican opponent? Who has gone on record opposing Same Sex Marriages [because they do not result in Natural Procreation.](http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20140803-editorial-procreation-vs.-same-sex-marriage-in-texas.ece) > [@](#): > > “The State’s recognition and encouragement of opposite-sex marriages increases the likelihood that naturally procreative couples will produce children, and that they will do so in the context of stable, lasting relationships. By encouraging the formation of opposite-sex marriages, the State seeks not only to encourage procreation but also to minimize the societal costs that can result from procreation outside of stable, lasting marriages.” Early in his own marriage, Abbot went out running after a storm. A tree limb fell on him and left him paraplegic. He’s still married–he & his wife adopted a daughter. I trust our OP will ask Abbott why he didn’t get an immediate annullment so his wife would be free to find a healthy husband & engage in Natural Procreation. I won’t, myself, because their sex life is not my affair & there’s nothing wrong with adoption. (I do wonder at Abbott’s later work on Tort Reform, to ensure that others will find it harder to get rich off a personal tragedy. He got ten million bucks from that careless tree owner!) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/69 "2014-10-01T01:01:25Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I was talking about this one - > Regards, > Shodan Well? Shouldn’t she have filibustered that piece of antichoice trash? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/70 "2014-10-01T01:17:21Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > …He got ten million bucks from that careless tree owner!) Cashed his check at a branch office. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/71 "2014-10-01T01:23:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Cashed his check at a branch office. With or without blindfold, comrade? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/72 "2014-10-01T01:34:13Z")
I could handle the fact that Wendy Davis had abortions, but ABORTIONS? Nuh-uh. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/73 "2014-10-01T02:27:32Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Early in his own marriage, Abbot went out running after a storm. A tree limb fell on him and left him paraplegic. He’s still married–he & his wife adopted a daughter. > > I trust our OP will ask Abbott why he didn’t get an immediate annullment so his wife would be free to find a healthy husband & engage in Natural Procreation. I won’t, myself, because their sex life is not my affair & there’s nothing wrong with adoption. > > (I do wonder at Abbott’s later work on Tort Reform, to ensure that others will find it harder to get rich off a personal tragedy. He got ten million bucks from that careless tree owner!) Uh unless the tree limb crushed his testicles why couldn’t they procreate? It may not be natural, depends on your view of a turkey baster, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/74 "2014-10-01T02:38:33Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I could handle the fact that Wendy Davis had abortions, but ABORTIONS? > > Nuh-uh. Abortions are done either by medication or by a minor surgical procedure. ABORTIONS are done by a muscular man’s unwashed, hairy arm as he roots around for a handfull o’baby and throws it into an unflushed toilet. This usually happens at DNC Meeting / Satanic Church Rallies. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/75 "2014-10-01T02:41:11Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Abortions are done either by medication or by a minor surgical procedure. ABORTIONS are done by a muscular man’s unwashed, hairy arm as he roots around for a handfull o’baby and throws it into an unflushed toilet. This usually happens at DNC Meeting / Satanic Church Rallies. DNC meeting? Heh. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/76 "2014-10-01T05:32:05Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > A gentleman is not supposed to ask about a woman’s abortion… Miss Manners is really phoning it in these days. ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/77 "2014-10-01T11:10:04Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > A gentleman is not supposed to ask about a woman’s abortion but I’m no gentleman (and she’s no lady) and I suspect she’s lying. I like the Catch-22 implied here. Anybody ladylike to not invite suspicion on their abortion wouldn’t have had an abortion in the first place, am I on the right lines here, **Kstarnes**? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/78 "2014-10-01T12:27:37Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Uh unless the tree limb crushed his testicles why couldn’t they procreate? It may not be natural, depends on your view of a turkey baster, but still. If you are interested in Abbott’s marital relations, feel free to ask him. I’ve already got a very long list of reasons why I’d prefer he not be my next Governor. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/79 "2014-10-01T12:33:17Z")
> [@Amberlei](#): > > Section 1.42 of Senate Bill 419, effective 9/1/2005, enacted by the 79th Texas Legislature, states: > > [79(R) SB 419 - Enrolled version - Bill Text](http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/79R/billtext/html/SB00419F.HTM) > Because it was already illegal to obtain a late-term abortion in the majority of instances prior to 2013, I believe this was tacked on to the 2013 House Bill 2 to ensure fodder for use against the opposition. According to a [Reuters](http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/18/us-usa-abortion-texas-idUSBRE96H05920130718)news article I located - > [@](#): > > The current limit for abortions in Texas is 26 weeks. > [@](#): > > Instead of seeing the opposition as critical of the new mandates, the uneducated masses are easily led to the fallacious belief that opponents of the bill must be in favor of the already illegal late-term abortions. F[indlaw](http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/07/texas-20-week-abortion-bill-signed-into-law.html) doesn’t concur - > [@](#): > > The centerpiece of the new law is without a doubt the 20-week abortion ban which, like a similar bill passed in the U.S. House of Representatives in June, makes it illegal for doctors to perform abortions past 20 weeks into a woman’s pregnancy. And since laws similar to the 2005 law had been struck down by the Supreme Court - > [@](#): > > Detractors of this law may take solace in the fact that many similar abortion laws in Arizona, Georgia, and Idaho have been blocked by the courts before becoming effective, reports The New York Times. > > Arizona’s 20-week abortion ban was found in federal court to be unconstitutional in part because the law would seek to ban abortions before the point of viability, flatly at odds with Supreme Court rulings. The Texas legislature may have been starting over to set up abortion legislation in the state, including both the late-term ban as well as the other regulations on clinic facilities and admitting privileges for abortionists. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996/80 "2014-10-01T12:36:00Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well? Shouldn’t she have filibustered that piece of antichoice trash? That’s a matter of opinion, and, unfortunately for both sides, not an opinion that can be established as factual by [screeching](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/07/03/pro-choice_activists_shout_hail_satan_at_texas_state_capitol_protest.html). Regards, Shodan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-confounded-that-no-one-is-asking-about-the-two-abortions-that-wendy-davis-had-is-she-a-liar/699996.md?page=5)