# I'm disappointed in myself

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2000, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461 "2000-12-07T12:00:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/1 "2000-12-07T12:00:52Z")

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I’m so easily manipulated sometimes, it sucks.

Here in this thread, I kept rising to Oldscratch’s constant baiting. I tried to resist, oh how I triiiied… but he kept drawing me in to argue some more.

And I just knew he was just being belligerent because he’s such an arrogant wanker, and thinks he is so much better than us, because he use drugs - which as we all know is the epitome of coolness and sophistication. I mean, it’s like smoking when you’re fifteen, right? Oh so adult!

God I hate him.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/2 "2000-12-07T12:02:00Z")

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Shit. [This thread:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=48909)

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/3 "2000-12-07T12:35:17Z")

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Your statement about breaking the law being wrong by definition was very confusing. Reading the thread, I interpreted it the same way he did. While I don’t condone his comments, I could easily see how he came to the conclusions he did. He attacked to try to get an explanation out of you, and you got defensive. Due to some strong words alrerady having been exchanged, what otherwise would have been an easily resolved miscommunication devolved into insults.

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/4 "2000-12-07T12:35:32Z")

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At 3am, I’m nosy and pushy, so I’ll stick my 2¢ in.

The next time you see an MPSIMS thread about recreational drug use, stay out of it. If people want to get together and post their high times there, let them. Don’t post anything. Nothing you say is going to convince them to stop, and posting there only invites them to jump on you and string you along.

I faintly recall another thread in MPSIMS (within the last 2 months) where you and oldscratch got into an un-MPSIMS-like discussion about his drug use. Frankly, I would have used that thread as a reason to stay out of the one you linked to. oldscratch has his ideas of what makes for a good time. You don’t agree with them. So let it alone. Don’t look for trouble.

I know you’re trying to help them, but it’s pretty obvious to me that they don’t think they need any.

It’s not worth it.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/5 "2000-12-07T12:46:24Z")

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_Guano_ starts a Pit thread? I do believe that’s a first 🙂

Guano, as I already said in the MPSIMS thread, this is not a very debatable subject. It’s a highly personal decision, and there are a lot of reasons why you and oldscratch disagree.  
I think oldscratch, zen101, and you are equally to blame for derailing that thread. I will, however, admit that you were not the aggressor in this case. That much can be deduced from my comments there, I think. Still, taking the bait and responding accordingly is just as bad. I know it’s frustrating, but sometimes you just have to swallow your pride, and have confidence in the fact tht your opponent will make a fool out of _himself_. Which oldscratch did, in this case - IMHO.

But Audrey is right: you’re not gonna change someone’s mind over these things. You have your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. While my personal opinion may be closer to oldscratch’s, I have to give you credit for being, at times, the voice of reason in that thread by pointing out that you respected oldscratch’s opinion. Something he apparently could not do, judging by his comments along the lines of “you’re in the wrong”, and such.

Still, this is a matter best left alone between the two of you. You’ll save yourself a lot of frustration.

Cheers,  
Coldfire

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**Author:** ![Amazing\_Tiki\_God](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@Amazing\_Tiki\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazing_Tiki_God)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/6 "2000-12-07T12:49:48Z")

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I just read the whole “debate” between you and nutscratch errr oldscratch. Anyways I find it interesting how one of you tried to take the high road while the other took to the mud smearing. I’m not one for siding in arguments but I definately agree with you. I come from your similar belief structure about drug use and it being nothing but illegal hence it is wrong. So I don’t think what you written was at all confusing nor misleading. Maybe everyone just can’t read at as high a level as you and I. Anyways good luck with buttscratch errrr damnit oldscratch I keep getting it wrong.

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**Author:** ![Rasa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rasa/32/3578_2.png) [@Rasa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rasa)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/7 "2000-12-07T21:59:44Z")

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> I tried to resist, oh how I triiiied…

See, GuanoLad, that’s where your problem lies… it is useless to resist him. You will be assmiliated.

He’s worse than heroin.

😉

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/8 "2000-12-07T22:43:09Z")

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I wasn’t in that thread to change anyone’s mind this time. He just got belligerent, and I couldn’t sit there ignoring his madness.

I’m not ever going to be at risk of being assimilated by that sub-human, believe me. He’s got more chance of becoming a Born-Again Christian than that ever happening.

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**Author:** ![Nen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Nen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nen)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/9 "2000-12-08T00:32:39Z")

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Frankly, **GuanoLad** , I’m disappointed in you too.

Did **oldscratch** cross the line by referring to you as birdshitboy? Despite the fact that that comment made me laugh my ass of, and despite the fact that he simply employed synonyms, he did cross the line in that forum. As an aside, I think selecting the username you have is just asking for a lambasting along a similar vein unless you’re a fucking scatologist.

Did **oldscratch** take on an aggressive tone? You bet he did. I would have done precisely the same. I would have thought it necessary to attempt to reason with you. My reasoning will become evident below.

You had two contentions. It is wrong to do drugs because 1) drugs alter one’s personality, and 2) drugs are illegal. Correct? Let’s handle each point individually.

Someone states drugs alter one’s personality; ergo, it is wrong to do drugs. Perhaps the reasoning arises from the misconception that drugs are artificial. Sorry, not all of them are synthetic. By the way, the term synthetic is the term you are looking for, not artificial. Perhaps the reasoning arises due to the nature of the neurochemical reactions in the brain as a result of introducing drugs into the body. Sorry, **oldscratch** was right. By any definition sucrose is a drug. Sure, some hallucinogens act upon uptake inhibitors or neurotransmitters such as seratonin, and in that sense the reactions differ, but they are more similar than you are willing to recognize. Face the facts. Anything one introduces into one’s body has an impact on their composition. Electrochemical reactions happen. Sucrose alters one’s personality. I’m hypoglycemic–I know. In essence, anything introduced into the body has an effect. The argument was what? Oh yeah, drugs alter one’s personality; ergo, it is wrong to do drugs. Sorry, the argument is flawed. **oldscratch** called you on it. You failed to concede the validity of the rebuttal.

Someone states drugs are illegal; ergo, it is wrong to do drugs. Perhaps the reasoning arises to due a misconception that law and morality are synonymous. **oldscratch** raised a valid point. He stated something to the effect of it being illegal to engage in sodomy in one state and not another. Substitute any activity and any location and you do not have the universal truth you were hoping to successfully assert. Smoking marijuana is not illegal in Amsterdam in certain circumstances. I guess we can glean from that fact that smoking marijuana is okay. Smoking marijuana in the United States is illegal with a few exceptions of medical necessity. I guess we can glean from that fact that smoking marijuana is not okay. Do you see the little dichotomy here? Do you see how your universal and moral argument is fallible? **oldscratch** called you on it. You failed to concede the validity of the rebuttal.

In both circumstances you failed to address the rebuttal and merely got on the defensive. You exhibited the debating prowess of rutabaga. “No, you’re wrong!” seems to be the epitome of your refutation–note the lack of substantiating evidence or logic. You’re posts weren’t worth the few electrons reeking of feces they are displayed with, nor the pencil-dick sized bandwidth they occupy. Yeah, I’m disappointed in you too.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/10 "2000-12-08T00:35:02Z")

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Cool. Another pit thread. Thanks HersheySquirt\*.

Well let’s take a look. First this thread. Thanks waterj2 (notice? notice? j2). So, HemorrhoidHead, we have many people who interpreted your comments the exact way I did. Of course, they probably would have been a little more polite in asking you about them. But then, they haven’t gotten to see what an unmitigated ass you are like I have.

And hate? That’s such a strong word… I don’t hate you FecalDude\*. I just find your assumptions of your own superiority and your constant moralizing of others, attempting to get them to conform to your own idea of what’s right a bit tiresome.

and for The Mighty Tiki God… damn dude, you need some work. nutscratch? buttscratch? insipid, uninspiring, and not very insulting. as high a level? Is that some insult? An argument? work on it dude, work on it. and as for him taking the high road, that’s incredibly laughable.

So the ExcrementAvenger wrote in other threads. (and I’ve decided to let him largely speak for himself, some of this shit, I just couldn’t top)

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So it’s bad to give people pain killers in the hospital? They gain pleasure from it? What about self prescribed pain killers, oh wait, that’s illegal. WTF? In one case it’s bad in one case it’s good. You really are a headcase. What about if your doctor prescribes Marijuana in California. It’s a docter’s prescription, but it’s illegal due to federal law. Hmmm?

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> I don’t like drugs because they affect the mind. That’s what scares me, and why I find them distasteful. They alter your personality in some artificially induced way.

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Again. So do a lot of legal things. Psych meds for one. Do you find them distasteful? NO? Why, because they don’t make you happy. It seems you want everyone to be as miserable and pathetic as you, sitting at home alone, masturbating to pictures of ugly naked anorexic women.

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> Now everyone is just getting too deeply into semantics. I’m pretty sure you all know what I meant, and are just trying to discredit me somehow.

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Paranoid too… maybe you should get something prescribed for that.

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> I don’t drink coffee, and I personally don’t recommend that either. But it’s something, like alcohol and tobacco, so deeply ingrained in acceptable culture that it’s not likely to stop being available.

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The same can be said for pot. Now will you shut up?

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> Prozac and Ritalin I’m not very informed about, but they aren’t recreational drugs anyway (which I believe was what I was referring to) and I think are prescription only.

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Those aren’t the only things you aren’t informed about… _ahem_…said about drugs…

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so you admit that you have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve got an idea. If you don’t know what you’re saying, shut up.

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> But I was talking about unnatural highs in the realms of recreational drug use, the desire to get happy by artificial chemical means.

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and if I’m not doing it to get happy?

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So is it ok to use Special K? It’s an FDA approved tranquilizer… Morphine? What about using marijuana to help get your appetite back after chemotherapy. Why is one drug ok and another not? Oh, that’s right. Because you’re a fucking moron and like to tell people what they can and can’t do. Stop spreading your fucked up morals like so much goose shit. What’s wrong with using illegal substances in controlled doses for my mental or physical health? and the answer?

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> Firstly, illegal is illegal. That’s wrong in itself.

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Oh that’s right. The defense of cowards, and people who couldn’t think their way out of a paper bag.

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> Secondly, I wasn’t even saying it was wrong. I just think it’s sad that people have this need or desire to get their happiness in a pill rather through natural human means.

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Yes you did… You said that anything that’s illegal is wrong and immoral. Stop trying to twist your way out of it.  
I said:  
My friend gets far more helpfull therapy from e than he does from paxil. Are you saying he should use something less helpfull?

He responded

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> I’d prefer it, yes.

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And again it comes down to… you don’t give a shit about anyone else. You have some weird fucked up issues with drugs, and rather than people being happy, or having even normal lives, you want them to be as miserable as you. You talk about getting happiness from natural sources? I find nothing natural about sitting on your ass, staring at facials, and jacking off. So cut the crap.

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> Am I asking anyone to conform to my own ideals? I’m just stating my opinion. I think I’m allowed that. It differs from yours. There. My ideas aren’t wrong, neither are yours. They’re just different.

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Yes you are. You have on several occasions. And your ideas are wrong.

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> Breaking the law is wrong. That’s a fact. It just is, no matter how archaic one may think the given law is.

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NO it’s not. It’s your opinion. A lot of people disagree with that opinion. Why can’t you get it through your head.

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> I said BREAKING THE LAW is wrong IN ITSELF.
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> I’m not passing judgement on what the actual law refers to, I’m saying to INTENTIONALLY BREAK A LAW is doing the WRONG THING.
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> Okay, look. Here is what I mean by this.
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> What the actual law is is not the issue here. That’s not my point.
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> We all know that breaking a law means you get in big trouble. By definition, this is called ‘a crime.’
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> Therefore to break a law is doing wrong.
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> This does not mean that right and wrong, in anyone’s personal belief system, is defined by the specific law. Just that to actively, intentionally, deliberately break a law is wrong in itself.

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Again. This is just plain idiotic. You believe that it’s wrong fro people to free slaves, for people to engage in anything but missionary sex, for people to FUCKING help themselves recover from cancer! Let’s all be as miserable as FertilizerFreak.

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> I know some laws may be considered stupid, or immoral in themselves, or are just outdated. Whatever. Not my point.

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So it’s immoral to not obey an immoral law? hmmm. Catch 22 there. Care to revise your thinking, Fecalpheliac\*?

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> Don’t give a monkey’s any more. Not even why I am here in the first place . Despite what oldscratch thinks, all I originally said was I thought it sad that people feel the need to find happiness in a pill instead of in laughter.

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And I find it sad that you would find happines in empty porn. Maybe that’s why you’re so bitter and anti-fun.

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> Screw you guys, I’m going home.
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> he just acted like a dickhead just to annoy me.

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Again, delusions of granduer, moodiness, and paranoia… Not healthy at all.

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> Well, as my life has been mundane and standard since forever, I can’t say 22 was any more or less screwed up than any other age.
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> Hmm. I don’t smoke, and I don’t have sex. Well heck, what on earth am I doing in here?
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> _goes off to find a ‘why do people cry after masturbation’ thread_

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Well that explains a lot… Now stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us BatshitBoy.

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> Oldscratch, you are a fucking idiot. And will everyone please stop encouraging this lunatic.

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Again with the high road, and not telling people what to do…

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> Well fine. I’m an old fuddyduddy who doesn’t think any kind of drug talk as funny. So sue me. You’re all weirdos.

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So why do you keep butting into these thread, sharing opinions that no one agrees with, and generally making an ass of yourself?

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> I don’t have a particularly amazing point. I was just expressing an opinion. I don’t like the way people talk about drugs like they aren’t horribly bad for you.
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As you stated before, you really have no idea what you’re talking about. At least I’ve done the research, and I know that the majority of substances I injest are harmless. A minority are somewhat harmfull, but then so is sailing, rock climbing, snow boarding. It’s an acceptable risk. Stop living up to your user name and spewing shit.

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> … I like pornography. Be sad about it. Say so. Start a thread on it. Make your points. We’ll go from there.

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Ok. I think your obsession with pornography makes you a sad and pathetic individual. Go out and meet real people, don’t rely, in your own words, on artifice. At least when I do drugs I go out and interact and have fun.

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Why is it irrelevant? Why is it any less relevant than your baseless claims that anythign illegal is immoral? And I wish you wouldn’t look at porn, what does that have to do with anything?

To bring in an old comment from coldfire

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> coldfire - Speeding is illegal. I LOVE speeding. If I tell you to try speeding because it gives you a rush, am I immoral in doing so ?

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> Breaking the law is immoral in itself, in my eyes. So yes, speeding is also immoral. If you think it’s not, then obviously we’re on such different wavelengths about the issue, we’ll never agree.

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Seems like you won’t agree with anyone on the board. Does anyone, **anyone** , want to come forth and say something as incredibly stupid as “speeding is immoral”, please do. I want to laugh at you and throw cheese at you, and poke you with pointy sticks.

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> But guys - to knowingly break the law, that is a serious law that is so contentious that it has constantly been under review (so it’s not just some arbitrary thing), but really any serious law - is wrong! It really doesn’t matter what the law is, breaking it is wrong!

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You’re such a cute little scamp… Hee hee. It must be tough having to perfrom such mental gymnastics constantly.

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_BZZZZZZ_ Too Late! Sorry, play again.

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> To answer your points: I don’t believe it’s an unjust law. The whole thought of drug use makes me shiver in disgust. And I sure don’t believe people who think that way like me are fucked up in any way. We just believe differently, and it’s not harmful to anyone for that.

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It is harmfull. The people like you are the ones who perpetuate the drug war. The one that costs billions of dollars, has costed thousands of innocent people their lives, have imprisoned and disenfranchised millions of americans. It’s quite harmfull, and morally wrong, which is why I’d wish you’d stop spewing it out over the boards.

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> The Freeing of Slaves mentioned: Breaking a Law is still wrong, they did it knowingly, it may have been, in retrospect, a stupid law, but it was still the Law and they deliberately broke it! That in itself was Wrong!

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and I really can’t respond to this… But it is the largest jewel in RunnyRocket’s crown of utter stupidity.  
and because I thought them fitting, I’m closing with some comments from WallyM7 said to ColonKiddy

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> WallyM7- You’re position on this matter is completely unsupportable. Give it up already.
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> Every time you try to defend your stance you dig yourself deeper.
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> Your horse is way to high for me. I don’t do drugs, but heaven protect me from sanctimonius browbeaters like you.

- _Much thanks to Hastur for coming up with the three names marked_

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**Author:** ![Rasa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rasa/32/3578_2.png) [@Rasa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rasa)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/11 "2000-12-08T00:48:35Z")

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First off: Guano, you and oldscratch are way more alike than you both realize. Neither of you knows when to quit.

Mad props go out to Nen for the “debating a rutabaga” comment. Oh. My. God.

And oldscratch… you’re more of a sadist than I gave you credit for. 😉

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**Author:** ![Tymp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tymp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tymp)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/12 "2000-12-08T00:50:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> **_Guano_ starts a Pit thread? I do believe that’s a first 🙂**

[Nope.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=6616) It’s just more of the same old sermon. Some of us are really tired of this bullshit, Guano. Luckily, we have drugs to ease the pain that accompanies knowledge of your existence.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/13 "2000-12-08T01:37:45Z")

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Whatever.

Fuck off and die.

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**Author:** ![Nen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Nen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nen)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/14 "2000-12-08T01:41:18Z")

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ExcrementChild, you are soooooooo eloquent.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/15 "2000-12-08T01:45:17Z")

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Bout what I expected from you…  
What? You expected to post a pit thread and have throngs of your supporters come in and back you up, decrying the evils of drugs? Oh wait, you don’t have any. You lead a pathetic, lonely existence. I’ ve got an idea, don’t post any more drivel about drugs, we’ll let you have your stupid little ideas.

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**Author:** ![Tymp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tymp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tymp)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/16 "2000-12-08T01:48:30Z")

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Wow. That seems really out of character for you, Guano. What happened to your deep sense of concern for my body and mind? Is this new position of yours at all in alignment with your previous statements of what I should and should not be able to do that might cause harm to my being?

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**Author:** ![sk8rixtx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@sk8rixtx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sk8rixtx)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/17 "2000-12-08T01:48:53Z")

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CrapKid, or whatever you call yourself, go fuck YOUR-self, then go fuck YOUR dog, then go fuck YOUR cat, then go fuck YOUR- whatever the fuck you have, and get back to me.

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                                      Peace
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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/18 "2000-12-08T02:03:33Z")

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Please read my prefious post. And triple it.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/19 "2000-12-08T02:12:49Z")

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I’m assuming you mean previous post, and not perfidious post.  
OK

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> …I really don’t know what the facts are…

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> …I really don’t know what the facts are…

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> …I really don’t know what the facts are…

hmmm. yep

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-in-myself/44461/20 "2000-12-08T02:16:31Z")

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Previous.

Dammit.

If you need me, I won’t be anywhere near here.

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