# I'm disappointed that we're getting Discourse

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**Created:** [June 11, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427 "2020-06-11T02:33:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/41 "2020-06-11T19:41:16Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Tuba already responded in the other thread (I hate when we have multiple threads on the same topic on the same board) saying there won’t be likes and community moderation and so on
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> [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22347550&postcount=26](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22347550&postcount=26)

I’m not sure that either of those things _can_ be turned off entirely. Those are core to the Discourse philosophy. What people like and what they don’t like is really, really important to the software, and it was intentionally written to be so.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/42 "2020-06-11T19:48:48Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> Discourse.
> 
> I’m wondering if confusion with Discord is what is causing some here to be apprehensive.
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> We’re moving to Discourse, but we are still going to be the SDMB. The page layout is changing a bit, but we still have a banner at the top that says “THE STRAIGHT DOPE MESSAGE BOARD” and under that it has these forums listed:
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> About This Message Board  
> Comments on Cecil’s Columns/Staff Reports  
> The Quarantine Zone  
> General Questions  
> Great Debates  
> Politics & Elections  
> Cafe Society  
> The Game Room  
> Thread Games  
> In My Humble Opinion (IMHO)  
> Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share (MPSIMS)  
> Marketplace  
> The BBQ Pit
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> (that’s a straight copy and paste off of the main page of the test site)
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> The banner is a lot smaller than what we have now, there’s a link to the straight dope web page to the right of it, and some of the navigation around Discourse is a bit different.
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> But once you get used to the new layout, it’s the same old SDMB. It’s the same forums, the same posts, just a bit of a different look and feel.
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> Quoting is a bit more fiddly than vBulletin but it works. It doesn’t link to the quoted post though. That’s one of the few things that vBulletin seems to do better. Most other things aren’t better or worse. They are just different. When you’ve been on a message board for 20 years, you get used to where everything is. Now some things are in a different place. It’s going to take a bit to get used to the new navigation, but once you figure it out, it’s still the SDMB underneath it all, same posts, same users, same everything.
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> But there are smilies. Lots of smilies. Well, technically there aren’t any smilies since they are called emojis now. But if you think smilies/emojis are going to be the ruin of the SDMB, well, there you go. We’re doomed.

It’s like people haven’t used other message boards before, by the prognostications of doom and gloom.

As for me, I’m just happy that we won’t have all the errors and pauses and stuff.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/43 "2020-06-11T20:00:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Senegoid;22348924  
And [noparse]  
[/noparse] doesn’t work to get you colored text. I don’t know if there’s another way – haven’t seen any mention of it yet.

Hooray! No more [color=red]evil red warnings from the moderators!

But also no more orange quotes from the Orange One SAD! :sad:

[/QUOTE]

But what will happen to all of The Grapist’s posts once they get moved over?? Won’t some one please think of The Grapist??

On second thought…

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/44 "2020-06-11T20:14:54Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> But what will happen to all of The Grapist’s posts once they get moved over?? Won’t some one please think of The Grapist??

I’m pretty new here so forgive me if I say WHHHHHAAAAAAAAATTTTTT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/45 "2020-06-11T20:19:07Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> It’s like people haven’t used other message boards before, by the prognostications of doom and gloom.
> 
> As for me, I’m just happy that we won’t have all the errors and pauses and stuff.

eh, if it’s like any other site I’ve been on that upgraded or replaced its forum software, there’ll be some initial wailing and gnashing of teeth over the cheese having been moved, then people will just get used to it.

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/46 "2020-06-11T20:49:26Z")

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I am a bit sad about this. One of the things I like about the SDMB is how it has looked the same year after year even as the rest of the Internet has changed. However if it does solve the timeout problem I guess it will have been worth it. I had never heard of Discourse before but I suppose we will all have to figure it out.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/47 "2020-06-11T21:14:59Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> I’m not sure that either of those things _can_ be turned off entirely. Those are core to the Discourse philosophy. What people like and what they don’t like is really, really important to the software, and it was intentionally written to be so.

Have you run a message board on Discourse? To me, it would be a pretty bad idea to not be able to turn that off becase a lot of people would hate it.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/48 "2020-06-11T21:17:02Z")

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when you buy/rent software in almost all cases you take what they give you. If you don’t like the features don’t use it. Or write your own software.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/49 "2020-06-11T21:31:32Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> when you buy/rent software in almost all cases you take what they give you. If you don’t like the features don’t use it. Or write your own software.

Modern software often comes with “settings”, which allow you to customize it to your whim, within limits.

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**Author:** ![Anxious\_Squirrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anxious_squirrel/32/1083_2.png) [@Anxious\_Squirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anxious_Squirrel)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/50 "2020-06-11T21:40:45Z")

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I think the only real issue we’ll have will be the really long threads like the clusterfuck thread or the evil cops thread, etc. Trying to navigate through those could be a nightmare. Kind of like how it is trying to read a really popular thread on Reddit, or trying to scroll to the bottom of the comments of a popular youtube video. All that scrolling, plus, waiting for the next batch of posts to load. At least I’m guessing it will be like that. I haven’t found an example thread that was long enough yet to check it out.

But yeah, other than that plus how awful the modern look is, the new place will be tolerable. 🙂

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/51 "2020-06-11T21:42:56Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Have you run a message board on Discourse? To me, it would be a pretty bad idea to not be able to turn that off becase a lot of people would hate it.

Discourse is chock full of bad ideas.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/52 "2020-06-11T21:48:17Z")

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There are settings on software but not every feature can be changed or removed. I don’t think Word lets me get rid of the spell checker but I can change it to a language other than English.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/53 "2020-06-11T21:48:28Z")

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I like the Discourse style for quoting a post. I’m tired of having to quote (reply to) the whole post, then laboriously delete everything EXCEPT what I was trying to quote. It’s like carving a small sculpture from a big block of marble.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/54 "2020-06-11T21:51:06Z")

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> [@tricoteuse](#):
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> I’m pretty new here so forgive me if I say WHHHHHAAAAAAAAATTTTTT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

That was a Doper, circa 2000-2010 (?), who would post in purple-colored font style…and, I believe, quote others’ posts, but in purple.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/55 "2020-06-11T21:52:36Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I like the Discourse style for quoting a post. I’m tired of having to quote (reply to) the whole post, then laboriously delete everything EXCEPT what I was trying to quote. It’s like carving a small sculpture from a big block of marble.

You talking about Quote Reply, where you highlight some text and it shows you a quote button?

That, to me, would be the most awesome thing in the world if it didn’t prevent me copy/pasting and using my dictionary apps. Maybe it works better on a phone, but I only message board on my PC.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/56 "2020-06-11T21:54:42Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> You talking about Quote Reply, where you highlight some text and it shows you a quote button?

I guess so! I haven’t actually checked out Discourse yet — my observation was based on a couple posts by others in this thread. I mean, this topic. 🙂

Also, what’s a “dictionary app”? Just curious.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/57 "2020-06-11T21:56:57Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Also, what’s a “dictionary app”? Just curious.

Highlight a word, click on it, and choose which dictionary you want to look it up in. Opens a new tab with the entry already loaded.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/58 "2020-06-11T21:58:24Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> when you buy/rent software in almost all cases you take what they give you. If you don’t like the features don’t use it. Or write your own software.

Board software comes with a lot of options. This is a very odd post.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/59 "2020-06-11T21:59:12Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> But what will happen to all of The Grapist’s posts once they get moved over?? Won’t some one please think of The Grapist??
> 
> On second thought…

> [@tricoteuse](#):
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> I’m pretty new here so forgive me if I say WHHHHHAAAAAAAAATTTTTT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

The Grapist was [from an Onion satire on McDonald’s Hamburglar called the Hammurderer.](https://www.theonion.com/mcdonalds-drops-hammurderer-character-from-advertising-1819566355) The final paragraph was this:

> [@](#):
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> The Hammurderer is quickly becoming regarded as the worst-received advertising mascot since Kool-Aid’s 1989 discontinuation of “The Grapist,” a huge purple monster who sodomizes thirsty children.

A prankster registered as “The Grapist” and began quoting posts but changing their color to purple, with the message “This post has been graped by the Grapist.” He was banned, but there were a few copycats afterward.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/60 "2020-06-11T22:00:10Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Highlight a word, click on it, and choose which dictionary you want to look it up in. Opens a new tab with the entry already loaded.

Cool, thanks.

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