# I'm disappointed that we're getting Discourse

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427>\
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**Created:** [June 11, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427 "2020-06-11T02:33:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/81 "2020-06-12T18:59:06Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> ISWYDT.
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> (My bold).

My browser doesn’t have grammar check … 🙂

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/82 "2020-06-12T19:29:22Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> Why do I read this thread and see a tempest in a teapot? …

It’s the way we roll. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/83 "2020-06-12T20:19:12Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> Discourse ate my baby!
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> Jenny  
> your humble TubaDiva

😃

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/84 "2020-06-12T21:11:49Z")

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I miss playing with a big shiny blob of mercury. Edmond Scientific. Good times.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/85 "2020-06-12T21:21:06Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/86 "2020-06-12T21:52:40Z")

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I’m about to post some screen shots of the new site. Please remember it’s still in development and not fully baked yet. Also it’s a really old data file so nothing the least bit recent or relevant. It doesn’t mean anything.

Jenny  
your humble TubaDiva  
Administrator

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/87 "2020-06-13T00:04:33Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> IIRC it was the rise of e.g. Facebook and Twitter which really helped to pull users away from message boards (here I’m talking about older people.) But I’ve recently torpedoed my presence on both of them thanks to being fed up with the utter lack of moderation or any sort of control. If I get tired of my feeds getting filled up with political crap, what good is being on there if I end up muting/blocking everyone? At least here there are clearly defined and enforced rules on where you can post what.

As an older guy, but having been online since Quantum-Link, I actively avoided Twitter and Facebook because they are precisely what you describe: not structured, not moderated, and my news feeds fill up with garbage. I only tolerate Reddit because I can feed my subscribed subs into RSS, which provides the structure that Reddit otherwise lacks.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/88 "2020-06-13T00:37:48Z")

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Well, I’d gladly trade every single emoji, short user names (if I need 10 characters, maybe I’ll just be diiiiiiigs), and ending a sentence with a preposition for _basic functionality._

Bring it on, gang. Everyone here needs to learn some flexibility.  
Thanks to everyone who’s working on this!

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/89 "2020-06-13T02:13:31Z")

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I see that my and **GreysonCarlisle** ’s concerns have not been addressed by the mods. They are legitimate concerns. Have you actually disabled the whole “like” issue, the trust levels (which depend on likes), and reports automatically hiding posts? Have you worked out some way to work around them?

This isn’t some mockworthy thing, like worrying about the font or emojis or how quick quote works. These are fundamental differences in how the board works under the hood. Being able to silence people you disagree with is something that _does_ ruin boards. Even being able to make them fall off the page can cause harm.

Think about GD. How many reports do you get that are unactionable, **Jonathan Chance**? What if those posters now had the power to remove the posts they report? Even if it’s only temporary until you get back to it and unhide it, that seems like it would be a huge issue.

I don’t think this is a frivolous question. So please answer. Have you found a way to disable these features, or work around the issues I’ve stated?

If you don’t answer, my assumption would be you’re just ignoring this thread now due to the overwrought OP, and I’d make a new thread.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/90 "2020-06-13T04:20:11Z")

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Has anyone checked whether Discourse still lets you say “cunt”? If not, this may all need to be rolled back.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/91 "2020-06-13T04:21:23Z")

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There’s a plugin for that.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/92 "2020-06-13T04:54:12Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I see that my and **GreysonCarlisle** ’s concerns have not been addressed by the mods. They are legitimate concerns. Have you actually disabled the whole “like” issue, the trust levels (which depend on likes), and reports automatically hiding posts? Have you worked out some way to work around them?

**TubaDiva** answered the question about crowdsourcing moderation in post #33 before your last post.

> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> We have custom tailored the site to make it look more like what we’re used to. It will not have the full functionality of some of the things you find in plain Discourse because they’re things we don’t particularly need. (Like the crowd moderation.)

Have a great day, **BigT**.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/93 "2020-06-13T10:47:11Z")

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**engineer\_comp\_geek** , I was pointing out the ability exists, but I agree emojis are easy down the priority list. However, the page I linked says there are three sets of emojis to choose from besides customizing, so even “default” may require a choice. Choose well!

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/94 "2020-06-13T11:01:31Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Highlight a word, click on it, and choose which dictionary you want to look it up in. Opens a new tab with the entry already loaded.

I know this is off topic, but is this available only as an app (on mobile devices), or can it be used from a laptop?  
mmm

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/95 "2020-06-13T18:03:49Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> I know this is off topic, but is this available only as an app (on mobile devices), or can it be used from a laptop?

It’s a browser plugin for Chrome and Firefox. I only ever use my desktop for message boards (too hard to read on my phone), so they ought to work on your laptop.

Here are a few I use for Chrome:  
[Merriam-Webster](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lookup-on-merriam-webster/kbkglbhikjonodlofbcomogfcbfjipog)  
[Oxford Advanced Learner’s Dictionary](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/oxford-advanced-learners/jbfnadandganeodogcmcigfmmpkamhif)  
[Etymology Online](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/etymonline/giehjnnlopapngdjbjjgddpaagoimmgl)

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/96 "2020-06-14T12:44:01Z")

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I want the congratulate TPTB for moving to a new format in response to an actual problem, rather than just changing things up for the sake of newness, like many sites that discard perfectly good formats in exchange for something worse.

\*of course, the _real_ purpose could be to install digital trackers so They know where we are at all times, facilitating harvest of our internal organs to feed superior alien beings.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/97 "2020-06-14T17:44:50Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> \*of course, the _real_ purpose could be to install digital trackers so They know where we are at all times, facilitating harvest of our internal organs to feed superior alien beings.

That feature was rolled out last year on vBulletin, but it’s by lottery only.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/98 "2020-06-14T20:48:04Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> **TubaDiva** answered the question about crowdsourcing moderation in post #33 before your last post.
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> Have a great day, **BigT**.

None of that replies to what I said. She said they removed it, but then **GraysonCarlisle** said that’s impossible. So we have conflicting information. I am asking for clarification.

I would also ask you to read entire threads before responding. I already addressed that post several times, so you should have known I was already aware of it.

I also hope you have a nice day.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/99 "2020-06-14T21:15:47Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> None of that replies to what I said. She said they removed it, but then **GraysonCarlisle** said that’s impossible. So we have conflicting information. I am asking for clarification.

It’s probably impossible to remove Trust Levels and have a functioning Discourse board. But I believe that group moderation can be toned down. No point in fretting about it–this is what we’re doing, so we might as well all get on board and try to minimize the damage.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-disappointed-that-were-getting-discourse/855427/100 "2020-06-14T22:28:56Z")

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> [@PlaceboTarget](#):
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> My prediction is that Discourse will not kill SDMB. SDMB may or may not thrive on Discourse, but the move will not play a major part in its survival.

It is the move that likely will kill the SDMB, whether it be to Discourse or to anywhere else. The hardcore user base will make the effort to move across but its likely that a lot of people won’t bother or will just get lost in the shuffle. They won’t bother checking their emails, won’t bother trying to get their accounts reset or reopened, will take one look at the new format and nope out, will see some of the new functions and nope out etc etc. And every member lost will mean less traffic and the board will become even less relevant than it already is.

Surgery sometimes kills the patient, thats just the way it is. What the OP seems to miss is that if you are dying anyway then surgery is the right choice.

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