# I'm done with ketchup
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Tags:** food-cooking
**Created:** [October 3, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155 "2020-10-03T22:58:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/1 "2020-10-03T22:58:26Z")
I don’t use it much, certainly not on burgers or steaks, mostly on fries. Which I did earlier today but was reminded again that there are so many other sauces and dips that are better. What are your favorites?
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### Author:  [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/2 "2020-10-03T23:01:41Z")
I want ketchup on my burger (along with mustard and cheese), but don’t need it for fries. They go better with Ranch Dressing or melted cheese.
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### Author:  [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/3 "2020-10-03T23:05:13Z")
I’ll get to my favorite sauces later (preview: HP!), but I’ve been in SooperSekrit HyperLockdown and I would KILL for a BigAss Burger and a plate of fries with grilled onions… and a big pool of ketchup to dip them in.
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### Author:  [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/4 "2020-10-03T23:18:08Z")
I recently found Buffalo Wild Wings Spicy Garlic sauce in a giant 2-pack at Costco.
The ingredients are healthier than I was assuming. Or at least its not loaded with sugar anyway.
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### Author:  [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/5 "2020-10-03T23:23:37Z")
I like tartar sauce on French fries. I also like them with both ketchup and malt vinegar (separately, of course)…
I’ve tried poutine, but beef gravy on fries just doesn’t do it for me. ☹
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/6 "2020-10-03T23:29:23Z")
> [@terentii](#):
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> I’ve tried poutine, but beef gravy on fries just doesn’t do it for me. ☹
Is it the beef or the gravy part that turns you off? I make mine using mushroom gravy. Tastes great. Less filling.
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### Author:  [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/7 "2020-10-03T23:33:14Z")
I like beef gravy, just not on fries. (There are no chunks of beef in it.)
Is the mushroom sauce creamy?
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### Author:  [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/8 "2020-10-03T23:33:35Z")
Depends on the vehicle delivering the condiment.
If they’re crinkle fries, just a little over so they’re super crisp? Ketchup.
Steak fries? Ranch dressing or dill dip.
If you’re my kid, chocolate malts go with any kind of French fry. She’s weird.
Burgers get mayo - either plain or the garlicky aioli.
Hot dogs get mustard.
The only ‘must have ketchup’ food, for me, is a grilled cheese sandwich.
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/9 "2020-10-03T23:39:01Z")
> [@terentii](#):
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> Is the mushroom sauce creamy?
Not exactly. I make mine silky using a blonde roux but not so it’s the consistency of a cream of mushroom soup.
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### Author:  [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/10 "2020-10-03T23:40:49Z")
I like to dip my grilled cheese sandwiches in Asian sweet chili sauce. It’s even better when there’s a slice of ham in the sandwich. Yum! 🙂
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### Author:  [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/11 "2020-10-03T23:41:45Z")
So it’s dairy based?
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### Author:  [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/12 "2020-10-03T23:45:52Z")
I still eat like a 7 year old, and have no regrets. (I will be 51 in a few days)
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/13 "2020-10-03T23:51:17Z")
Well, it has butter, shallots, flour and the mushroom broth. The only dairy is the cheese curds that I add to the fries before topping with the mushroom gravy. I use about a 2 table spoons of butter and flour to 2 cups of mushroom broth/stock. No additional dairy.
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### Author:  [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/14 "2020-10-03T23:54:51Z")
Sounds good, I’ll give it a try. 👍
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/15 "2020-10-04T00:03:20Z")
One more tip… use Better Than Boullion concentrated mushroom stock for best results. If you like mushrooms in your gravy, saute Hen of the Woods with some thyme, then set cooked mushrooms aside and use the fond in the pan to make your roux, etc.
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### Author:  [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/16 "2020-10-04T00:21:26Z")
If you add ham it’s not really a grilled cheese, is it?
Going to have to try sweet chili sauce. Sounds good!
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### Author:  [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/17 "2020-10-04T00:26:34Z")
Well, it’s a grilled ham and cheese, yes. With or without the ham, I love grilled cheese sandwiches.
I dip them in cream of tomato soup too.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/18 "2020-10-04T00:28:03Z")
Hot sauce is an excellent ketchup replacement. My favorites are Tapatio, El Yucateco, and Taco Bell Hot Sauce. Yeah, you heard me. The Taco Bell sauce is really the only vinegar based sauce I use, and it’s not spicy, but it has a very tasty onion and chile powder flavor.
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### Author:  [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/19 "2020-10-04T00:28:06Z")
I actually do have some Better Than Boullion in my pantry. I’ll have to dig it out.
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### Author:  [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-done-with-ketchup/922155/20 "2020-10-04T00:29:14Z")
Only Dijon mustard for my fries. Have you any Grey Poupon?
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