# I'm fucking mad at the people in the US who support and promote adult bullies.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 21, 2015, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417 "2015-08-21T07:57:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/201 "2015-08-25T18:00:40Z")

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> [@even\_sven](#):
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> So you were not talking about single parent homes?

Let’s recap. Here is your post and the portion of mine you were responding to:

[QUOTE= even sven]

[QUOTE=magellan01]  
2) many more were raised in actual families with fathers present.  
[/QUOTE]

I’m sorry, I have to go cancel my plane tickets back home for Christmas. It turns out I don’t have an actual family, so surely I can save some money by not dragging my butt across the country to see my mom, grandparents, uncles and cousins (but wait-- those sound like family members…).

Be a little thoughtful before you tell someone they don’t have a family.  
[/QUOTE]

Now, it what world does does the claim I made translate to me talking about _your particular family_. I made no claim about all black families, nor even most black families. Yet, you seemed to think I was talking about your specific black family. You’ll have to explain that “logic” to me.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/202 "2015-08-25T18:02:53Z")

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Even sven is black?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/203 "2015-08-25T18:08:33Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> It’s pointless to argue on Starving Artist’s terms because he has no understanding either of the past or the present. He thinks we are living in some kind of violent, drug-addled dystopia, when compared to the past, exactly the opposite is true.

We’re _dying_ in some kind of violent, drug-addled dystopia? :eek:

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/204 "2015-08-25T18:13:13Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Even sven is black?

She is now.

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**Author:** ![CinnamonBabka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bbce88/32.png) [@CinnamonBabka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CinnamonBabka)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/205 "2015-08-25T18:22:38Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Yeah, liberals usually think things are better now as long as their own personal area of concern gets addressed. That’s one of my main gripes about liberalism…fix this and to hell with the consequences.

What kind of delusion are you living in where all single-issue voters are in favor of liberal issues?

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/206 "2015-08-25T18:37:42Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> And yet you say…
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> Given your intelligence and work ethic, what makes you think you have what it takes to be a professor at one of the three top schools for your kind\*? You are no Adam Clayton Powell, Thurgood Marshall, nor Spotswood Robinson, and, on top of it, you are a female. An inner-city elementary school is about the best you can hope for, girl\*.
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> - 
> - Words chose for that degrading Nifty Fifties effect that some people are nostalgic for. :rolleyes:

She can teach the young’uns to smoke crack. Keep tradition alive!

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/207 "2018-09-30T04:27:25Z")

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> [@CinnamonBabka](#):
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> What kind of delusion are you living in where all single-issue voters are in favor of liberal issues?

Indeed. There are plenty of conservatives who will cast a vote based on the candidate’s stance on abortion, or vaccination, or …take your pick.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/208 "2018-09-30T04:39:37Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> My fondest wish is that he’ll not only win the nomination, but have long coattails. Because I know the only destination a Trump candidacy can have in 2016 is the nearest ditch.

Oh boy. ☹

Just try to be the best person you can be. Don’t fly so close to the sun. Just try to be a good person.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/209 "2018-12-03T00:59:31Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> …I’m just so angry and sad right now. I’m a pretty simple guy, and I don’t understand the hatred. Why are people so hateful?

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> The GOP is full of bullies. …

Science may have discovered the reason why:

Research, recently published, tells us something about those who are inclined to vote Republican and to support Trump. The same result isn’t found for those who supported Romney, for example. A brief excerpt:

> [@](#):
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> … The research team used Google Trends to examine the popularity of search terms such as “penis size,” “steroids,” “hair loss,” “erectile dysfunction,” “how to get girls,” “penis enlargement,” “testosterone” and “Viagra.”
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> “We found that support for Trump in the 2016 election was higher in areas that had more searches for topics such as ‘erectile dysfunction.’ Moreover, this relationship persisted after accounting for demographic attributes in media markets, such as education levels and racial composition, as well as searches for topics unrelated to fragile masculinity, such as ‘breast augmentation’ and “menopause,’” according to Knowles and DiMuccio.
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> “Fragile masculinity was not associated with support for Mitt Romney in 2012 or support for John McCain in 2008,” wrote the researchers, who added that the same finding emerged in the 2018 elections. in more than 390 House elections, support for the Republican candidate was higher in districts that had higher levels of fragile masculinity. …

[https://hillreporter.com/men-who-are-insecure-about-their-manhood-support-donald-trump-16309](https://hillreporter.com/men-who-are-insecure-about-their-manhood-support-donald-trump-16309)

A notorious feature of bullying is that the bully is nearly always insecure, and strikes out as a means of covering up that insecurity.\*

\*see, for example, [Google Scholar](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C10&q=bullies+insecure+fragile+ego&btnG=)

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/210 "2018-12-03T01:07:22Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Science may have discovered the reason why:
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> Research, recently published, tells us something about those who are inclined to vote Republican and to support Trump. The same result isn’t found for those who supported Romney, for example. A brief excerpt:
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> [https://hillreporter.com/men-who-are-insecure-about-their-manhood-support-donald-trump-16309](https://hillreporter.com/men-who-are-insecure-about-their-manhood-support-donald-trump-16309)
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> A notorious feature of bullying is that the bully is nearly always insecure, and strikes out as a means of covering up that insecurity.\*
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> \*see, for example, [Google Scholar](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C10&q=bullies+insecure+fragile+ego&btnG=)

Just a disclaimer; not everyone who has “shortcomings” has to be a jackass. Although I’m sure The Proud Boys all look like Ken dolls ‘down their’.

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**Author:** ![bmasters1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5e925/32.png) [@bmasters1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmasters1)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/211 "2018-12-03T11:05:42Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> Trump is a blowhard and a moron, but I wouldn’t characterize him as a bully. He’s probably an asshole to work for, but so is Hillary Clinton. Anybody that makes it to that level of success has to have a type A personality.
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> Plus, Megyn Kelly definitely “attacked” him by any reasonable definition of the word. She and the other Fox moderators had a clear agenda: End Trump’s candidacy. It was a colossal fuckup because it basically only did two things:
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> 1. Alienating Fox’s audience members who support Trump and hurting the Fox brand.
> 2. Strengthening Trump’s support, as people rallied around him seeing that he was being attacked.
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> If they just played it straight and asked him fair but tough questions then no doubt he would have used that rope to hang himself. Instead they went at him so hard he actually looked good with his answers where he fought back. His answer to the question of his statements about women was perfect where he talked about political correctness. Plus that question was unfair as the whole “woman on her knees” comment was taken out of context unfairly.

Pauline Hanson and her One Nation Party suffered similar treatment, with similar results, in Australia in the late 90s, as Jim Waley talks about in this opening of _Sunday_ on the Nine Network in Australia from 1998:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dsRv0gFk5e0/hqdefault.jpg "SUNDAY - Opener - 12 July 1998") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsRv0gFk5e0)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/212 "2018-12-03T23:09:16Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> Just a disclaimer; not everyone who has “shortcomings” has to be a jackass. Although I’m sure The Proud Boys all look like Ken dolls ‘down their’.

Absolutely true (and thanks for making that point). It may be that the study itself makes more clear that the distinction is NOT between one size and another size, but between confidence and insecurity (or “fragile masculinity,” which can exist no matter what the actual size may be).

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/213 "2018-12-03T23:11:29Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Absolutely true (and thanks for making that point). It may be that the study itself makes more clear that the distinction is NOT between one size and another size, but between confidence and insecurity (or “fragile masculinity,” which can exist no matter what the actual size may be).

Just saying… 😃.

Thanks for responding!

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fucking-mad-at-the-people-in-the-us-who-support-and-promote-adult-bullies/728417/214 "2018-12-03T23:25:22Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> Just saying… 😃.
> 
> Thanks for responding!

Well, it’s a delicate topic…Can’t leave anyone dangling without a response!

🙂

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