# I'm glad Ryan Dunn is dead. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 20, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203 "2011-06-20T20:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/101 "2011-06-22T09:46:34Z")
> [@5-HT](#): > > I know there has been speculation, my point is that we shouldn’t be assuming that speculation is the truth. > > As far as his driving, that was based on Bam’s opinion and his past car accidents. Fair enough. This fucking moron was a shit driver and should’ve damn well known better than to be zipping along at over 100 mph since he apparently lacked driving skills and the common sense to not behave like the show he was featured in when the cameras weren’t on. Better now? If it’s not, I could certainly add more disclaimers to the whole “drunk driving” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/102 "2011-06-22T10:20:12Z")
> [@5-HT](#): > > There’s no evidence he was legally drunk, so why would we assume that? > > Ryan was an almost unbelievably bad driver, he was more than capable of crashing a car sober. The evidence is the photos of him drinking right before the crash and the testimony of the friends that were with him that he’d had at least three beers and three shots in the previous four hours. Meanwhile, the police have stated that the car was doing 130 mph when it crashed. I’m not glad that he’s dead, but Dunn is not the victim here - he’s the perpetrator. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/103 "2011-06-22T12:07:04Z")
never mind. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/104 "2011-06-22T12:10:28Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I’m not glad that he’s dead, but Dunn is not the victim here - he’s the perpetrator. He’s both. You can be culpable for something and still be a victim. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/105 "2011-06-22T12:15:53Z")
> [@5-HT](#): > > He’s both. You can be culpable for something and still be a victim. After drinking ~7 drinks and blazing down a road at 130mph? Huh? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/106 "2011-06-22T13:28:41Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I don’t know how the whole alcohol seller tortious liability thing has worked out in the State in question, but I think on the whole it is unlikely that the bartender would admit that he served this guy enough alcohol to get totally legless than let him walk out to his car, even if it were true. That’s what I’m saying. All we have to go on right now is what the bartender is saying and we know he’s not going to get up and say “OMG dude, he was shiiiitfaced when he crawled out of here, holy crap, I didn’t even know he left, I figured he was sleeping it off in the parking lot like he normally does” Legalities aside (since I don’t know enough about it), this is so big right now, he’d get caught up in a PR storm if he admitted to over serving and it could end up hurting his business. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/107 "2011-06-22T13:32:31Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > There’s no limit on the number of dicks in any situation. Sounds like you’ve spent some time in the Castro, mate. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/108 "2011-06-22T15:37:17Z")
> [@elninost0rm](#): > > After drinking ~7 drinks and blazing down a road at 130mph? > > Huh? He did something stupid and now he’s dead. What’s confusing you? ---
**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/109 "2011-06-22T15:52:08Z")
So I drove up the exit last night as usual. At that point in the road, there are two lanes heading west (where he was driving), and the skid marks show he was not only not in the right lane to make the right exit, but he may have been to the left of the left lane, over the center line in the direction of oncoming traffic. And the skid marks were straight, no swerves (and no squashed squirrels or children). It looks like he was going hog wild down the road, decided at the very last moment to take the exit, and plowed right into the trees. ---
**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/110 "2011-06-22T16:07:36Z")
Oh look [here’s a picture](http://i.imgur.com/ym4Xs.jpg). The skid marks begin way over on the left, beyond the frame of the picture. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/111 "2011-06-22T17:23:33Z")
I think he’s a national hero and a martyr in the fight against keeping groups like MADD from taking away our civil and human rights. ---
**Author:** ![markm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@markm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markm)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/112 "2011-06-22T18:35:30Z")
Looks like he was trying to go all Back to the Future. Someone should have pointed out he wasn’t in a DeLorean with a flux capacitor. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/113 "2011-06-22T19:13:19Z")
> [@5-HT](#): > > He’s both. You can be culpable for something and still be a victim. Sure. Him and all the other Darwin Award candidates, with bonus points for killing his friend, too. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/114 "2011-06-22T19:15:13Z")
Just announced: \*Dunn’s blood-alcohol level was 0.196 at the time of the crash \* and _Police say Dunn may have been going as fast as 140 mph_ ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/115 "2011-06-22T19:16:03Z")
> [@gallows\_fodder](#): > > Oh look [here’s a picture](http://i.imgur.com/ym4Xs.jpg). The skid marks begin way over on the left, beyond the frame of the picture. Thanks for the picture of the skid marks. Can someone explain why there are two left skidmarks which merge into a single skidmark? I also wonder how fast a car like that needs to be going to jump a guardrail at what looks to be about a 45-degree angle. Oh, and sign me up with those who are at least leaning in the direction of being glad that one menace to society is no more. And oh, who wants to bet against the forensics boys and girls reporting back to us with a 0.2% blood alcohol level for this Darwin Award champ, not that three shots and three beers doesn’t equal shit-faced unless maybe you weigh about 300lb. And finally who in God’s name could possible think there is anything funny about sticking a toy truck up your ass? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/116 "2011-06-22T19:18:01Z")
> [@gallows\_fodder](#): > > Oh look [here’s a picture](http://i.imgur.com/ym4Xs.jpg). The skid marks begin way over on the left, beyond the frame of the picture. I’ve no experience with these matters but it would appear that his slide was increasing and his car was exactly perpendicular to the direction of motion when he hit the guardrail. Sliding sideways, he crashed driver’s side first. ETA: **colonial** , I think there’s another merging on the right at the exact same rate. Look close, for some reason it’s a little lighter. I interpret the two on the left as the two rear wheels coming around to 90 degrees, the two on the right being the fronts. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/117 "2011-06-22T19:43:02Z")
> [@5-HT](#): > > He’s both. You can be culpable for something and still be a victim. Would you consider someone shot by the cops after shooting up a school a victim also? Too bad he took someone with him when he committed suicide, but at least he didn’t kill someone in oncoming traffic. Around me a guy driving the wrong way on a bridge over the Bay wiped out most of a family. The father was a hardworking guy who delivered papers. It would have been much better if the killer had driven of the bridge and drowned before he destroyed a family. Maybe this asshole would have killed someone a bit down the road if he hadn’t killed himself first. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/118 "2011-06-22T19:47:09Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > \*Dunn’s blood-alcohol level was 0.196 at the time of the crash \* > > and > > _Police say Dunn may have been going as fast as 140 mph_ Fuck him. He deserved to die. It’s unfortunate that he took someone else with him, but i’d be very surprised if his friend didn’t know that Dunn had been drinking. ---
**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/119 "2011-06-22T20:07:24Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Fuck him. He deserved to die. It’s unfortunate that he took someone else with him, but i’d be very surprised if his friend didn’t know that Dunn had been drinking. [Looks like he has a history of drunk/reckless driving](http://dailylocal.com/articles/2011/06/22/news/doc4e02294103fc3824702920.txt) I’m glad he died because he can’t ever do something like this ever again. That’s one less drunken moron putting other people at risk. If he had escaped this incident without a crash, he would have tried again. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203/120 "2011-06-22T20:22:57Z")
> [@Xan](#): > > My only regret is he took someone else with him. Are you suggesting his passenger thought his driver was stone cold sober? Or that he thought his driver was really a mild-mannered accountant rather than a guy who made his fortune off being breathtakingly irresponsible? Or are you intentionally ignoring “assumption of risk?” Never mind. I don’t really care what you think because you’re a dick. People are people and do worse to each other every day, most of the time on purpose. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-ryan-dunn-is-dead/586203.md?page=7)