# I'm glad that gay/lesbian spouses are becoming husband/wife **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 18, 2014, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948 "2014-11-18T10:19:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948/41 "2014-11-21T23:25:38Z")
> [@btthegreat](#): > > Because we want those terms to be associated with PEOPLE, including us. We do not live our lives to distance ourselves from humanity because most of it happens to be straight. We are part of humanity. A guy calling another man his husband does not sound boring to me. It sounds pretty damn glorious, if you are in love and want to spend the rest of your life showing that love to a deserving man. Well maybe you. But what about the gays with the lisps, the gay walk, the swishy behavior? Dont gays still say “Fabulous!”? Why would they NOT want something to express queerness? Was Paul Lynn the last of his kind? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948/42 "2014-11-21T23:54:51Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Was Paul Lynn the last of his kind? If your entire picture of homosexuality is based on a man who died 32 years ago, whose name you don’t even know, maybe you should stop trying to speak for gay people. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948/43 "2014-11-21T23:56:19Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > If your entire picture of homosexuality is based on a man who died 32 years ago, whose name you don’t even know, maybe you should stop trying to speak for gay people. Oscar Wilde would call himself something extremely witty. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948/44 "2014-11-22T00:04:49Z")
Spouse seems appropriate now for all, ‘husband and wife’ seem antiquated now with the acceptance of recognized marriages now inclusive of homosexual couples as husband assumes a wife and wife assumes a husband - those terms seem to not be in line of what marriage is anymore. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948/45 "2014-11-22T00:08:24Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Well maybe you. But what about the gays with the lisps, the gay walk, the swishy behavior? Dont gays still say “Fabulous!”? Why would they NOT want something to express queerness? Of the thousands of gay men I’ve known, I could count the ones matching your description on one hand (not that there’s anything wrong with it). > [@](#): > > Was Paul Lynn the last of his kind? That’s Paul _Lynde._ ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948/46 "2014-11-22T00:11:37Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Spouse seems appropriate now for all, ‘husband and wife’ seem antiquated now with the acceptance of recognized marriages now inclusive of homosexual couples as husband assumes a wife and wife assumes a husband - those terms seem to not be in line of what marriage is anymore. The words don’t assume that; only the hearer does. The thread is about the fact that that assumption seems to be getting less prevalent. That’s a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948/47 "2014-11-22T00:13:07Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > The words don’t assume that; only the hearer does. The thread is about the fact that that assumption seems to be getting less prevalent. That’s a good thing. Or the terms becoming archaic is a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948/48 "2014-11-22T02:10:02Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Naw, I think “I now pronounce you husband and husband” just sounds weird. > > And can you imagine a gay man walking up to group of married women talking about their husbands and saying “yea my husband is also like that”. I’ve done exactly that hundreds of times. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948/49 "2014-11-22T02:11:47Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > But why would gays and lesbians want to use terms associated with straights? > > Wouldnt you want something… I dont know… maybe with a more queerish twist to it? A guy calling another man his husband just sounds boring to me. We’ve been together almost 14 years and he’s getting a little old for me to keep calling him my boy toy. Husband has been working fine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-glad-that-gay-lesbian-spouses-are-becoming-husband-wife/704948.md?page=2)