# I'm goddamn tired of the inability for people to have a civil online conversation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136 "2009-11-11T02:15:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/21 "2009-11-11T06:45:04Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> \*Fuck You  
> Fuck your whole family and your relatives  
> Fuck You  
> Fuck your little sister and your little brother  
> Fuck You  
> Fuck all your friends and everyone  
> Fuck You  
> Fuck your little puppy and your puppy dog  
> Fuck You \*
> 
> -Red Hot Chili Peppers

Great song, though I still think it was tasteless of the Obamas to dance to that at their inaugural ball.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/22 "2009-11-11T06:47:30Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> P.S. dipshit: Great job on trolling at [stormfront](http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=40309) and on writing some shitty [Star Trek Fanfics](http://trekiverse.us/author/author.php?aid=A000002341). Winner alert!

I’ve reported this and asked a mod to break the links. If you’re new around here you may not know we **DO NOT LINK TO SITES LIKE THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES**. If you need to write it out do so like this: stormfront dot org/(etc.).

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/23 "2009-11-11T07:51:09Z")

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Thanks, Jr. Modcop. I’ve reported your post for acting as a moderator when in fact you aren’t one. But in any case, I’d like a cite to the specific rule.

But I really think you are overestimating the psychological impact of poorly written Star Trek fanfics. It’s awful, yes, but we need to be ever vigilant against the encroachment of these sorts of crappy writing.

Douchebag.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/24 "2009-11-11T08:02:01Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> Yeah, because you’re known far and wide as a coherent, intelligent, and thoughtful poster. Which is why, of course, you even get honorable mentions in ATMB for being an example of a fucktard.
> 
> Seriously, I know you’re a mental defective, but I am willing to bet you wake up at night and wonder why you fail so badly at life.

I do love when your randomized hostility sprays **Bryan Ekers**. I can’t stand that guy either. 😉

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/25 "2009-11-11T08:33:04Z")

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Please tell me your CSI photo thread isnt one of the ones you are complaining about. Cause if it is, you are way to much of a drama queen.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/26 "2009-11-11T09:50:45Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Please tell me your CSI photo thread isnt one of the ones you are complaining about. Cause if it is, you are way to much of a drama queen.

Yeah. The first person to get mad in that thread was the OP. Yeah, I can see how Lamia’s comments might be seen as being inspired by anger, but I can also read them as being quite calm.

If the OP wanted a Pit thread about that thread, it would be about nitpicking. Or arguing semantics. Clearly the point of the OP was that images may have high enough resolution that we won’t have to enhance the image (by interpolation) when we zoom in.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/27 "2009-11-11T12:40:05Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Please tell me your CSI photo thread isnt one of the ones you are complaining about. Cause if it is, you are way to much of a drama queen.

Nope, it was simply me thinking 'Hey, it’s happened twice lately…I’ll just bet it heads in that direction again. And I was RIGHT! (‘If it keeps happening, perhaps it’s you, hrmmm?’)

A good example of it around here can be found by googling **Caesario**.

The example that really bent me out of shape is over on Ars Technica:  
http:// episteme.ars [technica.com/](http://technica.com/) eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/843007212041

With a Guy named Lordhunter317 (who evidently has a history over there.)

But I _have_ noticed a tendency around here for people to go to 11 on the snarkometer when it really wasn’t necessary.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/28 "2009-11-11T12:42:44Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> Which is why, of course, you even get honorable mentions in ATMB for being an example of a fucktard.

Really, I got mentioned in ATMB as an example of something? Ooooh, cite?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/29 "2009-11-11T13:29:16Z")

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> [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#):
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> Nope, it was simply me thinking 'Hey, it’s happened twice lately…I’ll just bet it heads in that direction again. And I was RIGHT! (‘If it keeps happening, perhaps it’s you, hrmmm?’)

Given that you set yourself up for that one, firing the first round so to speak, I really can’t give much in the way of praise for your prediction abilities there. You shot, they shot back. Big surprise.

Not to say other parts of your gripe here dont have value or a point.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/30 "2009-11-11T13:36:52Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Yeah. The first person to get mad in that thread was the OP. Yeah, I can see how Lamia’s comments might be seen as being inspired by anger, but I can also read them as being quite calm.

I can too. Its happened to me much here lately. Mainly because some people cant fricking read.

Don’t get me wrong, I can type some really imprecise crapola at times. But sometimes I write exactly what I intended to exactly how I wanted to make a very specific point. Then somebody comes along, says A = B, and B is bad and stupid and wrong or whatever, all the while I am saying "no, you retard I said A ! ".

If you misintepreted my post on the first go around fine. No harm no foul. But don’t keep fucking tell me what I intended to say or “really meant” unless you are a damn mind reader.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/31 "2009-11-11T13:47:02Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Really, I got mentioned in ATMB as an example of something? Ooooh, cite?

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but buddy…

a simple search brought up this: [stalking harrasment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=529367&highlight=Bryan+Ekers). The O.P. singles you out specifically for “stalking” and “trolling” . So yes, you did get mentioned in ATMB as an example of something.

I wouldn’t be proud of that.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/32 "2009-11-11T13:49:29Z")

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I think the other issue is the tendency to nail everything down to the last iota, even if it’s irrelevant to the question at hand.

“Say that’s a mighty fine blue truck he’s got there!”

“Well, strictly speaking, it’s more an aquamarine than a blue. What are ya, colorblind?”

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/33 "2009-11-11T13:56:36Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> I don’t have a dog in this fight, but buddy…
> 
> a simple search brought up this: [stalking harrasment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=529367&highlight=Bryan+Ekers). The O.P. singles you out specifically for “stalking” and “trolling” . So yes, you did get mentioned in ATMB as an example of something.

Something which he was completely unable to substantiate.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/34 "2009-11-11T14:12:21Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I’ve reported this and asked a mod to break the links. If you’re new around here you may not know we **DO NOT LINK TO SITES LIKE THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES**. If you need to write it out do so like this: stormfront dot org/(etc.).

Well, this entire thread is pretty much against the rules, IIRC, what with all the “words that must not be spoken”.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/35 "2009-11-11T14:12:51Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> Something which he was completely unable to substantiate.

Again, I don’t have a dog in this fight, but it’s just that **Bryan** seemed to be claiming he wasn’t ever mentioned in ATMB as an example of something. It’s like somebody saying “I’ve never been pitted!”. So I posted, “Buddy… yes, you were”

As to the validity of the complaint, I have no idea, I didn’t even read the damn thread. All I know is that he asked for a cite and I gave him one.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/36 "2009-11-11T14:30:58Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Well, this entire thread is pretty much against the rules, IIRC, what with all the “words that must not be spoken”.

Which words are those? 😕

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/37 "2009-11-11T16:41:33Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> P.S. dipshit: Great job on trolling at stormfront

You are the one that advertises you are a neo-nazi with the 88 in your name. Why would you want him over on your precious board trolling?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/38 "2009-11-11T16:43:30Z")

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I do like the spelling “firtle”. 😃

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/39 "2009-11-11T18:05:10Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> I don’t have a dog in this fight, but buddy…
> 
> a simple search brought up this: [stalking harrasment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=529367&highlight=Bryan+Ekers). The O.P. singles you out specifically for “stalking” and “trolling” . So yes, you did get mentioned in ATMB as an example of something.
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> I wouldn’t be proud of that.

Heh, I’d forgotten about that (probably because “fucktard” was not actually used as ivn suggested, which is kind of disappointing because “fucktard” in ATMB would make quite a splash and earn mod warnings and such which I usually find entertaining when they’re not directed at me) and actually I _am_ kinda proud of it, in the sense that even the person _making_ the accusation couldn’t support it and while he got some minor emotional support, he got far more criticism. I only regret my flippant first response - I should have been able to come up with something far better.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/40 "2009-11-11T18:15:22Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> P.S. dipshit: Great job on trolling at [stormfront](http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=40309) and on writing some shitty [Star Trek Fanfics](http://trekiverse.us/author/author.php?aid=A000002341). Winner alert!

I didn’t realize this was directed at me at first.

Hmm, I registered at stormfront a few years ago (and only knew about it because it was mentioned here). I was planning to get all Socratic and sarcastic on them, but there was some rule that posts by newcomers had to be checked by moderators first and… something, I forget. And after a little while, the pointlessness of the exercise became even more obvious and I gave up.

As for the fanfics, I have six of them on a related story arc. Anyone who wants a copy is welcome to them. If you haven’t read them, you’ve no basis to describe them as “shitty” or anything else.

And if you google me some more, you’ll find I won a costume competition (best latex mask) at Toronto Trek one year. I had this lizard mask and put on a tuxedo and pretented to conduct a rendition of Beethoven’s Ninth. I was “Toskanini”.

Just don’t confuse me with Brian Ekers, who works (or worked) for Her Majesty’s Printing Office in the U.K. I hate that guy.

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