# I'm goddamn tired of the inability for people to have a civil online conversation

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136 "2009-11-11T02:15:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/61 "2009-11-11T22:22:45Z")

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The only question is: is Obama the reincarnation of Hitler, or did they merely transplant his brain?

You be the judge!

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/62 "2009-11-11T22:45:25Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I do like the spelling “firtle”. 😃

It does make it seem to sound more like “Myrtle”.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/63 "2009-11-11T22:45:27Z")

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> [@Epimetheus](#):
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> Evidence Epimetheus fondles little boys: 0 items  
> Evidence ivn1188 is a white supremacist: 2 items:
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> 1.) Typical neo-nazi username  
> 2.) Hate filled and ranting

Incorrect.

Evidence that Epimetheus is a pedophile:  
1.) Username from Greek mythology  
2.) Multiple past convictions for buggering little boys  
3.) Hate filled off-topic ranting  
4.) Name has same number of letters as “kiddie porn”  
5.) Name rearranged is “He ties em up”  
6.) Listed on Interpol’s sex offender registry  
Wow. So convincing!

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/64 "2009-11-11T22:45:33Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> The only question is: is Obama the reincarnation of Hitler, or did they merely transplant his brain?
> 
> You be the judge!

It’s far worse than you realize. Cloned Hitler brains have been running this country for decades. Consider:

George W Bush  
George = 6  
W=1  
Bush = 4  
6 + 1 + 4 =11

Bill Clinton  
Bill = 4  
Clinton = 7  
4 + 7 = 11

Oprah Winfrey  
Oprah = 5  
Winfrey = 7  
5 + 7 = 12 (that’s Hitler +1!)

Wheels within wheels, man. Wheels within wheels.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/65 "2009-11-11T22:47:22Z")

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**H** ealthcare

**H** ilter

**H** ussain

**H** illary  
OMG! I am yanking the rugrats outa the 4H club post haste !

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/66 "2009-11-11T23:03:37Z")

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/stares slackjAWEd at this trainwreck of a GodWINned thread.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/67 "2009-11-11T23:03:57Z")

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I chuckle at the fact that ivn had to go off the board (and several years back in time) to try to “prove” that I was a loser, when we have his posts of just the last few hours cementing that _he_ is.

Schmuck. Utter schmuck. The kind of schmuck that gets pity from other schmucks at the schmuck conventions.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/68 "2009-11-11T23:10:04Z")

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THERE’S A SCHMUCK’S CONVENTION??!! Where? When?

I aspire to be a schmuck! It’s a big step up from dweeb.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/69 "2009-11-11T23:21:57Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I chuckle at the fact that ivn had to go off the board (and several years back in time) to try to “prove” that I was a loser, when we have his posts of just the last few hours cementing that _he_ is.
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> Schmuck. Utter schmuck. The kind of schmuck that gets pity from other schmucks at the schmuck conventions.

Fact: You wrote not just Star Trek fanfics, but a _series_ of shitty fanfics.  
Fact: You admitted you’re a troll.  
Fact: You admitted to not only attending some nerdfest, but to winning a prize there.  
Fact: You’re the one following me around from thread to thread to bask in my glory.

Conclusion: You rolled a natural 20 on the goober scale.  
Solution: Eat the shame away. Kill it with more ham.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/70 "2009-11-11T23:35:08Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> Fact: You wrote not just Star Trek fanfics, but a _series_ of shitty fanfics.

Have you actually read any of them? They may very well be shitty (though I pride myself that my work is far better than the professionally-published TNG novel _War Drums_, which was a contrived, preachy, sanctimonious tale in the worst of the after-school-special tradition of serving up a big spoonful of cod-liver message-oil) but you might actually try reading something before judging it.

> [@](#):
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> Fact: You admitted you’re a troll.

Sure. In the 1960s (well, 2002). For 20 minutes. If there’s a board more worthy of trollery than stormfront, I’m unaware of it. Unlike your typical troll, though, I quickly realized the pointlessness of my actions and gave it up. Why do _you_ persist?

> [@](#):
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> Fact: You admitted to not only attending some nerdfest, but to winning a prize there.

And on my first and only costume competition! I’m batting a thousand!

> [@](#):
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> Fact: You’re the one following me around from thread to thread to bask in my glory.

There are candles six miles away whose light is more blinding than your glory-bask.

> [@](#):
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> Conclusion: You rolled a natural 20 on the goober scale.  
> Solution: Eat the shame away. Kill it with more ham.

There’s nothing here for _me_ to be ashamed of, that I can tell. I do like ham, though.

By the way, when I played AD&D (2nd Edition), what you’re describing was more likely known as a saving throw.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/71 "2009-11-11T23:40:52Z")

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It’s like you’re trying to bail out your sinking ship by cutting a hole in the bottom so the water runs out.

Wow. Just…

Wow.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/72 "2009-11-11T23:50:08Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> There’s nothing here for _me_ to be ashamed of, that I can tell. I do like ham, though.
> 
> **By the way, when I played AD&D** (2nd Edition), what you’re describing was more likely known as a saving throw.

You were doing sooo good, then at the very end ya blew it 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/73 "2009-11-12T00:10:36Z")

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I freely admit to DMing, too. Had the screen and everything.  
“Shame”? What is this thing called “shame” ?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/74 "2009-11-12T00:23:48Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I freely admit to DMing, too. Had the screen and everything.  
> “Shame”? What is this thing called “shame” ?

Its in the dictionary…right next to the picture entry for rubber vulcan ears 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/75 "2009-11-12T00:40:24Z")

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Oh, I had a set of those in 1987 or so. Didn’t like 'em; they were uncomfortable, and surprisingly ineffective at attracting women.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/76 "2009-11-12T01:23:55Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Oh, I had a set of those in 1987 or so. Didn’t like 'em; they were uncomfortable, and surprisingly ineffective at attracting women.

Why the hell do you think Vulcans get laid only once every 7 years ?

And all that logic crap is just a deep cover for the frustration and rage of not getting any on a regular basis.

Thats also why I avoid dark allies filled with nerds…

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/77 "2009-11-12T01:29:49Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Thats also why I avoid dark allies filled with nerds…

I gather you don’t want to Meet Dave, let alone be his friend.

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/78 "2009-11-12T01:53:49Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> Incorrect.
> 
> Evidence that Epimetheus is a pedophile:  
> 1.) Username from Greek mythology \*\* Not sure I see the connection\*\*  
> 2.) Multiple past convictions for buggering little boys **Yah?, made up convictions**  
> 3.) Hate filled off-topic ranting **yeah, racists tend to fill me with hate**  
> 4.) Name has same number of letters as “kiddie porn” **…**  
> 5.) Name rearranged is “He ties em up” \*\*My wife is very into being tied up… \*\*  
> 6.) Listed on Interpol’s sex offender registry \*\*Interpol has a sex offender registry? \*\*  
> Wow. So convincing!

Well, other than 1 and 3, everything is made up or similarly strange (the 88 is the only number connection I was aware of until wikipedia, this 11 = number of letters in Hitler’s name is weird and simple coincidence), and would never have even crossed your mind had billfish (Damn you) not even brought up the idea.

Everything on my list (maybe only 2, but both are valid) is real and not made up at all. Hell, you haven’t even denied it as in “it is a coincidence etc” and that cements it in my mind even more.

FWIW, clever, but I never did say you were stupid. Only an asshole racist.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/79 "2009-11-12T01:55:58Z")

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I can still say he’s stupid, though, right?

I leave it to others to evaluate his level of asshole racism. Demarcation and all.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-goddamn-tired-of-the-inability-for-people-to-have-a-civil-online-conversation/517136/80 "2009-11-12T02:10:13Z")

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Great.

Now I am getting blamed for either Hitler or pedophilea…hard to tell which.

I always knew it would come to this.

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