Um…
You wanna make that claim? Let’s see some evidence. I’m not gonna just take your word for it. ![]()
Um…
You wanna make that claim? Let’s see some evidence. I’m not gonna just take your word for it. ![]()
If there is, I must be white.
Jesus, what a stupid essay:
(1) Has she never spent any significant amount of time with minorities? It’s trivially easy for them to self segregate if they so desire.
(2) Non-white people can do this as well.
(3) While I am sure places exist that are actively hostile to non-white people, the vast majority of neighbors are going to be neutral to pleasant to non-white people.
(4) Again, wtf? Does she think stores often follow or harass their customers?
The rest of these aren’t white privilege. They are majority privilege. Or does she think that in China, for example, they show white people when they are talking about national heritage?
De facto redliningstill exists, as does deliberate exclusion of black people by landlords. Racism remains rife in many parts of the country. Many store employees do often follow and/or harass black customers.
Your understanding of the depth and breadth of these and related issues appears to be sorely limited.
How many all-black jobs do you know of? That’s also a factor. It’s trivially easier for white people to do this on just about every front, and the neighborhoods they end up in are substantially nicer to boot.
Sorry / not sorry
Yes, there are some ways in which poor whites have an advantage over middle class blacks, such as in the justice system. Getting into college is another story. College systems that used race and not socioeconomic status, such as Michigan’s and their controversial points system, severely disadvantaged poor whites and Asians.
There are also many companies where being a white male high school graduate pretty much closes off any chance of advancement, but is not an obstacle to advancement if you are female or minority. Again, this does not create a problem for the old boys club in any way, shape, or form. The white folks not in the old boys club however, are kinda screwed.
Cite?
Do you have a cite for all these claims? You must realize we’re not just going to take your word for it.
[Citation needed]
Where, specifically, in the US would a black person not be able to rent or buy a house they could afford?
As for the shopping, how often do you think non-white shoppers are harassed and/or followed in store? 1 out of 10?, 100? 1,000?, 10,000?
That’s moving the goal posts. People spend most of their time outside of work.
All i got is Adam Corrola’s (sp?) story about how he waited six years to apply to be a fireman and a female hispanic waited less than a week.
This NBC news report covers several instances of discrimination as I described:
Really? I have about 16-17 waking hours on any given work day, and of those, 8-9 go into my workplace. And I don’t exactly have a massive work schedule.
Interesting case. Not sure how many of the cases are actually justified, although the case involving the test that got thrown out does seem to support your case. I wonder how common this is, though.
I note your narrow definition of the issue. Meanwhile, here are some recent cases of redlining, which often involve banks redlining via refusing mortgage applications. To quote one article on an instance of this:
Or you could read up on the latest fair housing trends data. It’s noteworthy that racial discrimination only drives 19.6% of fair housing complaints, second to discrimination due to disability (55%) but that’s still a sizable number - about 5,500 complaints in 2016.
Is it more than the prevalence of white shoppers followed (adjusted for percentages)? How much more frequent would it have to be for you to stop splitting hairs and acknowledge that it’s a problem? While any reporting will inevitably be subjective (and potentially anecdotal) which makes statistical analysis difficult, certainly many, many businesses already acknowledge it to be a problem, particularly when lawsuits follow.
I linked to six different stories above about the issue; I refer you again to the last link. You might also consider the Shopping While Black Wiki page or maybe, if you could bestir yourself, try this page.
I realize this is IMHO, not GD, but I’ve provided a lot of links and you’ve provided me with nothing more than the verbal equivalent of a shrug. So you are perfectly entitled to continue to maintain an opinion that these things aren’t an issue despite multiple sources indicating that they are, and the rest of us can form our own opinions on the matter.
Do you not get weekends and other days off?
It’s not my definition, it is her’s:
Again, so where in this country would non-white people not be “pretty sure” of finding a place to live?
Frequent enough where non-white people can not:
It’s telling that you aren’t actually trying to defend what the article says and instead arguing somewhat related but far less significant points.
Almost all of these are who cares?
As a poor white student who attended the University of Michigan on a full time scholarship at the time of the whole Supreme Court affirmative action debacle, I can assert with great confidence that this college system did not use “race, and not socioeconomic status” to the disadvantage of poor white people. The points system covered a ton of diverse backgrounds, including being poor and white. If anyone was disadvantaged at all, it was rich white kids, because…
Hahaha sorry.
There was no shortage of rich white kids. Rich, terminally stupid white kids who couldn’t think their way out of a paper bag.