# I'm Going To Start Calling Women Assholes. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 19, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648 "2013-08-19T18:09:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dickerman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@Dickerman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dickerman)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/21 "2013-08-20T00:42:15Z")
Yes indeed, though I think it’s used far more often in an attempt to dominate/emasculate the insultee, rather than a response to his whining or complaining. It’s not uncommon to hear women/girls direct it towards males too. ---
**Author:** ![Dickerman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@Dickerman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dickerman)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/22 "2013-08-20T00:48:13Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > Unless your name is Jesse Pinkman, in which case the word “bitch” can be used to signify any emotion… That is a very good example of what I was thinking of. For more: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQTrdYEaoIU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQTrdYEaoIU) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/23 "2013-08-20T01:50:10Z")
> [@sahirrnee](#): > > I’ve always felt the worst thing about not having a dick is that you can’t tell some asshole who has pissed you off to suck it. > Lick my pussy just doesn’t have the same effect. I have heard more than one woman tell someone else (usually a guy) to suck her dick (in a rather non-inviting way). It has the particular effect of stopping everything for a second or two – at least, the first time she says it, after you get used to hearing it, it loses its impact. > [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#): > > Cunt is a great insult that’s equally appropriate for men or women, as long as said person is being a cunt. Asshole is completely unisex as well. I’ve simply never been able to figure out how the word is supposed to demean all men or all women. I think the premise is to suggest (to a woman) that that is the thing that defines her, that all her other qualities are of no significance. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/24 "2013-08-20T01:58:30Z")
You could keep “bitch” and just add “cur” for men. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/25 "2013-08-20T02:28:01Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > When directed towards a woman, a “bitch” is someone who displays masculine characteristics (being assertive, arrogant or aggressive). Or traits like vindictiveness, malice and cruelty. > [@Dr.Drake](#): > > You could keep “bitch” and just add “cur” for men. That latter insult works best when accompanied by “peasant” and a backhand to the face. Oh, and you’ll want to have someone following you around referring to you as “milord”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/26 "2013-08-20T02:57:36Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Oh, and you’ll want to have someone following you around referring to you as “milord”. 😃 Sounds good to me. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/27 "2013-08-20T05:20:04Z")
I can’t help but wonder, purely academically, if hypothetical terms like “assholess” or “assholine” might be considered feminine _forms_ of the insult, but not gender-_based_ insults. Y’know, “You’re a contemptible person (female)” vs “You’re a contemptible female.” ---
**Author:** ![stui\_magpie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stui_magpie/32/11010_2.png) [@stui\_magpie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stui_magpie)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/28 "2013-08-20T06:31:52Z")
> [@sahirrnee](#): > > I’ve always felt the worst thing about not having a dick is that you can’t tell some asshole who has pissed you off to suck it. > Lick my pussy just doesn’t have the same effect. Very valid point, although if that line was thrown at me in the middle of an argument it would certainly stop me in my tracks for a few seconds while I processed the request.😃 ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/29 "2013-08-20T14:14:23Z")
Wait. You _haven’t_ been calling women assholes all this time? I’ve been calling people assholes, douchebags, dickheads, fuckheads, shitheads (I like to tack on the word “head” to expletives, apparently), and jerk asses ever since I learned the joy of childish insults with complete gender neutrality. I realize that there are some swear words generally directed toward women (bitch, cunt), I never thought for moment there were slurs to be applied for men. Maybe “dick” or “prick” or something else that refers to male genitalia, but certainly not “asshole.” That’s for everybody. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/30 "2013-08-20T15:08:44Z")
1. I’m not sure about “bastard” being the masculine equivalent to “bitch”. Can’t women of the female gender be conceived outside of The Holy Bonds of Matrimony also? B. I wouldn’t be an a great rush to purge “bitch” from your vocabulary. It still might come in useful as a verb. “Bitch and moan”, to me, has different emotional content than “piss and moan”. I’ve been an enlisted man in 2 branches of the Armed Forces, so I have personal experience with both. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/31 "2013-08-20T15:10:57Z")
Isn’t “son of a bitch” a perfectly good masculine equivalent to “bitch”? Meaning that you’ve inherited your mother’s bitchy traits. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/32 "2013-08-20T17:34:25Z")
I have trouble applying the word ‘asshole’ to women, as something in my brain reads ‘asshole’ as male-gendered. I view ‘bitch’ (in the sense of ‘female jerk’) to be the feminine equivalent of the masculine ‘bastard’, and use it accordingly. That said, I never use the word ‘bitches’ as a substitute for ‘women’, because that’s where my behavior-sense starts tingling that it veers into misogyny. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/33 "2013-08-20T17:44:50Z")
“Start”? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/34 "2013-08-21T13:04:30Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I’ve read the word “bastich” in science fiction works… Especially when modified by “farging”, in a mock-Sicilian-American 1980s accent. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/35 "2013-08-22T16:42:38Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Especially when modified by “farging”, in a mock-Sicilian-American 1980s accent. Such as the one in [Johnny Dangerously](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087507/). I call bitches bitches all the time. Hell’s Kitchen might as well be called “Hell’s Bitches.” And I call men bitches too, if they act like bitches. From Hit Girl 2 (it’s in a trailer, I’m not spoiling anything): “Act like a bitch, get slapped like a bitch.” From a 16 year old girl, spoken to an older boy. And she did slap him, twice. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648/36 "2013-08-22T19:18:37Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > I never really figured why “cunt” is an insult. Personally, I love cunts. It is curious. I’m personally fond of cock/dick, both my own and those of others, and in the right circumstances, assholes have a certain charm all their own. And “wanker,” or, in the more American version, “jagoff/jerkoff/jackoff!” Hell, I used to do that every day when I was younger, and still shoot (heh) for several times a week. (And have very randy multiple jagoff days, even.) Life would be a less happy thing without wanking. And yet these are all considered insulting. Language, not unlike cats, is weird. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-start-calling-women-assholes/666648.md?page=1)