# I'm going to undertake a six-month occult ritual - ask me anything **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 1, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475 "2025-04-01T22:10:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/41 "2025-04-02T03:09:48Z")
Well, you seem to have a misogynist and a half-crazed publicity hound to back you up, so who am I to stand in your way? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/42 "2025-04-02T03:21:44Z")
Moderating: > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Well, you seem to have a misogynist and a half-crazed publicity hound to back you up, so who am I to stand in your way? This reads like a thread shit and like being a jerk. Please drop it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/43 "2025-04-02T03:39:31Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > According to the book, this is accomplished by shutting oneself off from society to the greatest extent possible, living an ascetic lifestyle focused on multiple daily prayers, ritual cleansing, chastity, abstinence, and religious study, and once completed one gains the ability to work magic by commanding spirits. Can you actually do this while posting on this message board and posting YouTube updates? I am not seeing where you are shutting yourself off from society at all. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/44 "2025-04-02T03:41:56Z")
Once I begin I will be posting my updates but I will not be responding to them. Any communication I have is going to be one-sided. Consider it a form of journaling. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/45 "2025-04-02T03:45:48Z")
Have others attempted this endeavor while staying in electronic contact with others to show them the journey? The one link I’ve checked out, [The Book of Abramelin - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Abramelin), seems to show that it is a more solitary journey than what you tell us. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/46 "2025-04-02T03:51:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Have others attempted this endeavor while staying in electronic contact with others to show them the journey? Yes. There are some very lengthy Abramelin diaries on Youtube if you wish to look for them. Here’s one such playlist; https://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PLLm2vnIuHr9q-ekCwyGHCIBzBnl49a8xe&wmode=transparent&rel=0&autohide=1&showinfo=1&enablejsapi=1 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/47 "2025-04-02T03:56:08Z")
And here is one of the diary entries made during the ritual: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbzr4tevARs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbzr4tevARs) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/48 "2025-04-02T07:04:54Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Tell us again after midnight.😉 (checks watch) Yep. Still not a joke. I’m committed to this and I’m going to see it through. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/49 "2025-04-02T09:14:02Z")
This sounds like you are starting a serious journey, and I wish you success. Seriously. But I would like offer a light hearted comment about something very ironic which just happened to me while reading this thread: My phone’s screen showed me not one, but two pop-up ads from a Jewish organization called “The International Network of Orthodox Mental Health Professionals”.. There are lots of ways to seek spiritual answers. If this Abramelin ritual works for you, go for it. In general, Eastern religions tend to stress individual ascetic practices, and western religions use more group-oriented prayers and rituals. Specifically, Judaism requires participating in a group of 10 for many rituals. I’ll be looking forward to whatever you post for the six months. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/50 "2025-04-02T09:38:21Z")
Have you read this, @Smapti? I promise it does become relevant. > **[Book Review: Origin Of Consciousness In The Breakdown Of The Bicameral Mind](https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/06/01/book-review-origin-of-consciousness-in-the-breakdown-of-the-bicameral-mind/)** > > I. Julian Jaynes’ The Origin Of Consciousness In The Breakdown Of The Bicameral Mind is a brilliant book, with only two minor flaws. First, that it purports to explains the origin of consciou… ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/51 "2025-04-02T12:56:57Z")
Did Madonna put you up to this? I bet she did. She’s a real card, I love her. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/52 "2025-04-02T13:00:31Z")
I was so very relieved when that fad ended. As I said, we can debate just who exactly is qualified to practice Kabbalah. I think we can all agree that I am not qualified and Madonna is definitely not qualified. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/53 "2025-04-02T13:06:44Z")
::gasp:: Just like the old gypsy woman said! ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/54 "2025-04-02T13:21:05Z")
I thought that word was considered somewhere between outdated and offensive now. Then again, I have been wrong a staggering number of times this year. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/55 "2025-04-02T13:36:40Z")
I think you’re 100% correct. I should have put quotes around the phrase. I will flag myself. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/56 "2025-04-02T14:41:29Z")
Moderating: yes, that word is now considered offensive by many. I don’t think putting quotes around it really helps. Maybe, “just like the old fortune teller said”? I’ll blur the word for you. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/57 "2025-04-02T14:48:35Z")
“YOU’RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!” I mean “thanks.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/58 "2025-04-02T15:06:26Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > I think we can all agree that I am not qualified and Madonna is definitely not qualified. I knew Madonna’s Kabbalah instructor! He was a Marine and a biker who immigrated to Israel, opened the country’s first Harley-Davidson dealership, went bankrupt, and got _deeply_ into Kabbalah to the point where his wife kicked him out and he ended up back in the States teaching mysticism to celebrities. Nice guy, and a total nutjob. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/59 "2025-04-03T07:45:26Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Have you read this, @Smapti? I promise it does become relevant. That’s an interesting way of thinking about it! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475/60 "2025-04-03T07:47:26Z")
In this video I talk a little more in depth about what the day-to-day aspects of the ritual entail and about the requirements to carry it out and tools necessary (and show off my nifty robes). [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/djoMd6iOYz0/maxresdefault.jpg "Abramelin video 2: How the ritual is practiced") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djoMd6iOYz0) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-undertake-a-six-month-occult-ritual-ask-me-anything/1016475.md?page=4)