# I'm going to watch all of the James Bond Films \[Please avoid Spoilers for Goldeneye or later Bond movies\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
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**Created:** [December 17, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001 "2019-12-17T18:58:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
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I would say the 5 films were…

1 Great  
2 Rubbish  
3 Very good  
4 Rubbish  
5 Decent

He went for a reverse Star Trek formula i.e. all the odd-numbered ones were the best.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/505 "2024-08-02T10:03:12Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Rami Malek is sufficiently creepy and menacing as the Big Baddie Lyutsifer Safin. But I didn’t quite get his motivation. Sure, he’s got a legitimate grudge against Blofeld and SPECTRE, but once they’re gone, he’s going to take his killer nanobots (which are apparently grown in a pool with big glowing sticks for some reason) and kill millions of people with them because… why, exactly? And he’s got waves and waves of henchmen willing to kill and die for this cause because… why, exactly?

I never figured out exactly what his plan was. He’s got the nanobots that can kill anybody he programs them to, and they’re going to be released at any moment, but who are those nanobots programmed to kill?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/506 "2024-08-02T10:14:51Z")

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Orphans. Puppies. Kittens. The usual.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/507 "2024-08-02T11:26:30Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Here’s what I didn’t like: kids in danger.

I don’t mind kids in danger, but I dislike killer nanobots. They’re usually too far along the “a wizard did it” scale for my taste.

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/508 "2024-08-02T11:55:30Z")

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As diabolical scheming goes, it is up there with hollowed-out volcanoes and invisible space stations, I must admit.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/509 "2024-11-14T23:26:08Z")

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I can’t believe, after all my comments, I missed the thrilling conclusion to this thread.

I liked NTTD. Probably for me the second best Craig movie. I liked his sacrifice at the end. I think Bond was getting tired of the whole “game”.

But killer nanobots! Stupid. They’re stupid if it was the 24th century, they’re exceptionally stupid in 2021. Thingies too small to see can analyze DNA and make matches, and have a database memory, have an unlimited power supply, and can reproduce themselves, are undefeatable, and also kill? I’d rather have invisible cars. Even the pigeon did a double take at the plot.

I also laughed at the villain being THE one go-to source world wide for poisons. Like, how does that work? “I’d like to poison my wife, bu damn DHL is just taking too long! I should have ordererd locally!”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/510 "2024-11-15T02:13:15Z")

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I wonder which path the next one will take regarding the next Bond.

1. “James Bond” is a cover identity for a highly visible “secret agent” that is passed along when the previous owner is unable to use it.
2. Bond’s broken but somehow not quite dead body is recovered. Massive surgery ensues. “I look like this now. Deal with it.”

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/511 "2024-11-15T02:40:27Z")

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1. Reboot. The next film assumes none of the previous Bond adventures ever happened.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/512 "2024-11-15T05:47:56Z")

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The next Bond movie will take place in a separate universe to the Daniel Craig films.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/513 "2024-11-15T06:10:16Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> The next Bond movie will take place in a separate universe to the Daniel Craig films

Are you saying the Craig and Brosnan incarnations will meet an all-new Tom Holland one?

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/514 "2024-11-15T06:14:20Z")

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Ha, love that. Or maybe a pig (Hams Bond?), or a Nick Cage black and white version!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/515 "2024-11-15T09:37:34Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> The next film assumes none of the previous Bond adventures ever happened.

Didn’t we already do that in _Casino Royale_?

> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Are you saying the Craig and Brosnan incarnations will meet an all-new Tom Holland one?

Didn’t we already do that in the other _Casino Royale_?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
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We’ll get famous directors to redo all the original movies, but with modern settings with modern special effects.

They can’t change a single word of dialog or a smidgen of the plot though. Casting, however, is wide open. So if they want a female Bond in Goldfinger, but keep Pussy Galore female, well, there you go!

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/517 "2024-11-15T15:21:10Z")

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In the book, Pussy Galore and her pilots were all out-of-the-closet lesbians until Bond cured her with his Magic Penis, so that would not even be much of a change!

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
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> [@mbh](#):
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> so that would not even be much of a change!

Exactly! In my plan, the filmakers aren’t allowed to change dialog or plot, but what the dialog _means_ is open to interpretation.

So instead of James Bond "curing " Pussy out of her lesbianism, where she falls in love with Bond and turns against Goldfinger, Jamie Bond simply is such a good lover that Pussy, while still staying a lesbian, falls in love with Bond and turns against Goldfinger.,

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-going-to-watch-all-of-the-james-bond-films-please-avoid-spoilers-for-goldeneye-or-later-bond-movies/845001/519 "2024-11-15T21:29:36Z")

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That would make the cringeworthy ‘man talk’ line near the start of the film interesting!

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