# I'm gonna assume you are physically plain, "imperfect" or outright homely... **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 31, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984 "2018-12-31T14:56:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/41 "2018-12-31T21:27:36Z")
I’d be happy if some doc could figure out what gene causes BO in guys who’ve been at the deer camp too long. And what gene makes them not notice when their campadres are smelling alittle rotten. Jeez, they sleep in the same vicinity, they eat across the table. They ride together on ATVs and Jeeps. It can’t be pleasant. Just saying. I’d pay real money for that info. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/42 "2018-12-31T21:41:54Z")
I’m average-looking, at best, unless you’re in the tiny minority who thinks that my doppelganger Colin Mochrie is a sexy beast, at which point I’m hot as hell. 😃 Do I have things that I _could_ have done? Sure, I could look at a hair transplant (I’m not bald yet, but really thin on top), and I have some acne scarring from my teen years that could probably be smoothed out with plastic surgery. Not worth it. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/43 "2018-12-31T21:46:55Z")
_In looks, I am not a star There are others more handsome by far But my face, I don’t mind it For I am behind it 'Tis the folks out in front get the jar!_ Why should I spend money and endure pain just to make YOU more happy? Who the fuck are you and why should I care if you do or don’t like looking at me? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/44 "2018-12-31T21:49:08Z")
I’m guessing this is heading to the Pit soon. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/45 "2018-12-31T21:53:46Z")
I’m generally all around homely but the thing I’m most self conscious about would be my teeth. More so because I had orthodontic braces when I was a kid and for years had nice straight teeth. Starting in my forties I started losing bone and gum and my teeth started twisting and moving. Having cosmetic restoration of my existing teeth would be very expensive and I’ve studied up on dentures enough to know they are a poor substitute for real teeth that like mine, are not loose or causing pain. So I just soldier on with my originals. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/46 "2018-12-31T21:55:38Z")
> [@2Bits](#): > > Why (the Fuck) does anyone? I don’t think folks who seek out plastic surgery are necessarily vain money-wasters (which seems to be an implicit message in a number of posts here). They are just people who are bothered enough about a particular body feature to get it reshaped. I suspect most do it for themselves primarily, while also hoping it will enhance their appeal to others. I don’t really see a problem with either motivation, as long as they aren’t intense enough to be neuroses. Conventionally attractive people are treated better than people will don’t qualify for this label. There is no point pretending this isn’t true. But most people at least rate as “OK”, so surgery all by itself probably isn’t going to be life-transforming. However, tightening up someone’s sagging jawline or fixing a crooked nose could pay dividends simply by giving a person a boost of self-confidence and esteem. I have a grooming ritual I do every morning. I remove my facial hair, comb and style my hair, and make sure my clothes are color-coordinated, not too wrinkled, and not too raggedy. I do this because I want to present a certain way when I go out in the world. I don’t want to turn heads necessarily, but I don’t want to turn heads away either. If I were to come to work with a fully-grown mustache, would my life descend into chaos? No. But I wouldn’t look the way I’d want to look, and my comfort level around other people would probably be diminished accordingly. So that’s why I am vain enough to remove my facial hair. If I don’t think I deserve harsh judgment for doing something as vain as this, I’m not about to judge someone else for deviating from their natural appearance through surgical or chemical (botox) means. There’s nothing sacred about “natural”. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/47 "2018-12-31T21:58:31Z")
I am as pretty as a picture! > **[Picture of Dorian Gray | The Art Institute of Chicago](https://www.artic.edu/artworks/93798/picture-of-dorian-gray)** > > Ivan Albright, 1943–44 ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/48 "2018-12-31T22:06:57Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Because I’m not trying to appeal to anyone but myself. And I think I look fine. Am I remembering right that you’ve posted a pic? If that was you, count me in, too. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/49 "2018-12-31T22:11:43Z")
I think brains are more important than beauty, and I’ve always only been interested in women who thought the same. Happily, I found one. Anyway, I still have all my hair at 67, and we produced two beautiful daughters, which is good enough for me. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/50 "2018-12-31T22:25:15Z")
Have you ever _really_ looked at [Julia Roberts](https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/pretty-woman-style-julia-roberts)? Even in her early career, she was a bit odd-looking. Her nose is too long, her chin is too pointy, and her smile too big and exaggerates her other “flaws.” Granted, all those “defects” can photograph well, but she’s still no [Grace Kelly.](https://www.biography.com/people/grace-kelly-9362226). Her star quality and talent make all that disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/51 "2018-12-31T22:52:11Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So which of these have _you_ had done? Breast enhancement _and_ hair plugs- it’s the gender-neutral package! ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/52 "2018-12-31T23:23:42Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Breast enhancement _and_ hair plugs- it’s the gender-neutral package! Breast plugs! ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/53 "2018-12-31T23:37:15Z")
> [@2Bits](#): > > …why haven’t you gone ahead and had plastic surgery, breast enhancement, hair plugs, etc yet? Because your check hasn’t arrived yet. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/54 "2018-12-31T23:43:54Z")
I’m a hopeless case. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/55 "2019-01-01T00:38:30Z")
> [@2Bits](#): > > …why haven’t you gone ahead and had plastic surgery, breast enhancement, hair plugs, etc yet? Because well within my 40s, my friends mock me with nicknames like “McDreamy” and “Justin Trudeau” because of my hair. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/56 "2019-01-01T23:38:44Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Because well within my 40s, my friends mock me with nicknames like “McDreamy” and “Justin Trudeau” because of my hair. Are you a human male? ---
**Author:** ![senoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@senoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/senoy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/57 "2019-01-02T00:12:23Z")
I’m a guy. I am judged less on my looks and more on my personality. Changing my looks surgically is a much bigger hit on my personality than it would be a gain in my looks. Also, perhaps more importantly. Why do I care what I look like? I don’t have to look at me. I’m married and love my wife more than I love flowers in springtime, so I’m not trying to attract a lady and really, what other reason is there for “looking good?” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/58 "2019-01-02T01:32:10Z")
> [@2Bits](#): > > …why haven’t you gone ahead and had plastic surgery, breast enhancement, hair plugs, etc yet? This is one of the most weirdly obvious things ever; it’s expensive. Plastic surgery has an incredibly high cost, and not just in terms of money; on top of the cash, it’s a medical risk, there’s pain and recovery time (including time away from work) and it’s frightening. There is also the very real risk it will go wrong, or that even if the procedure goes okay the results will be disappointing. While almost no one is Hollywood perfect, the truth is very few people have one obvious physical deficiency that ruins their looks so drastically that a single procedure will really change their attractiveness all that much. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/59 "2019-01-02T01:46:01Z")
Watch 'Botched". The reason people go there is because a previous Doctor messed them up. Sometimes many times. The outcome of the patients rarely looks dramatic. Of course they have a makeover for the reveal so they do look better. I wonder what they look like in the coming months. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-assume-you-are-physically-plain-imperfect-or-outright-homely/826984/60 "2019-01-02T01:49:15Z")
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