# I'm gonna burn a hot one in hell for this! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 31, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588 "2011-03-31T01:41:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/81 "2011-04-03T17:23:45Z")
> [@MuleSkinner](#): > > Just in case you’re not being intentionally obtuse: > > The OP said that whoever had his phone number before him was a very popular person. He then said he normally texts back that the person they are looking for is no longer there, “until today.” Then the point where he finally gets fed up with these calls for the old owner of the phone number comes when he gets a picture of an attractive girl wearing a tank top and short shorts. Of course what one does when he is fed up is tell this person he hasn’t decided if he’s going to the party the other person is being invited to and then when she sends a topless picture asks for more pictures (according to the original story). Was the intentionally obtuse directed at me? I’ve been arguing that it wasn’t spam and that he assumed it was a friend of the original phone number dude. Of, course if it wasn’t at me, then I am being obtuse, just not intentionally. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MuleSkinner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@MuleSkinner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MuleSkinner)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/82 "2011-04-03T17:42:30Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > So it’s OK to prostitute herself to that “scantily clad”, but not to tits? I have no idea what you’re talking about. > [@](#): > > Except she easily and casually took that next step in 2011. To assume she is naive enough to not realize that the photos might get seen by anyone other than the intended recipient in this day and age, is asking too much. I didn’t ask you to believe she’s naive and that’s not a relevant reply to my post. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Was the intentionally obtuse directed at me? No, I just included your post to keep **dawson** ’s post in context. ---
**Author:** ![dawson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@dawson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dawson)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/83 "2011-04-03T18:11:11Z")
> [@MuleSkinner](#): > > Just in case you’re not being intentionally obtuse: > > The OP said that whoever had his phone number before him was a very popular person. He then said he normally texts back that the person they are looking for is no longer there, “until today.” Then the point where he finally gets fed up with these calls for the old owner of the phone number comes when he gets a picture of an attractive girl wearing a tank top and short shorts. Of course what one does when he is fed up is tell this person he hasn’t decided if he’s going to the party the other person is being invited to and then when she sends a topless picture asks for more pictures (according to the original story). I’ll admit that the OP is not without fault, as he clearly states his motivation stems from 1) frustration and 2) sexual intrigue. However, I still contend that the sender needs to take some responsibility also. With how often people change cell phone numbers these days, it behooves the sender to verify the recipient before exposing oneself, especially unsolicited. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/84 "2011-04-03T18:11:53Z")
We’re making a lot of assumption in order to justify a mild level of outrage about this. Even in the worst possible light, somebody took momentary advantage of a situation he happened to find himself in, and to nobody’s detriment. If I had met somebody in a bar and got their phone number, and then a few days later sent sexy photos to that number in an attempt to generate some follow-up interest with that person, and I get a response that says “that’s hot, send more!” after which I send additional revealing photos to the holder of the phone number, and then found out that I had been fake-numbered by the original guy in the bar, and that I was actually sending the pics to some stranger, the fault would be entirely mine for being such a naïve boob. The guy receiving my slutty pics is under no obligation to ask who I am and demand that I stop sending him dirty pictures. He’s free to do so, but he’s certainly not obligated to. ---
**Author:** ![dawson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@dawson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dawson)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/85 "2011-04-03T18:14:18Z")
> [@MuleSkinner](#): > > Where are you guys getting “necessary” or “had to”? Attractive girl is scantily clad and wants to entice a male she knows to come to a party and sends a pic with a text. That’s not so unusual in 2011 or something that’s only done when “necessary.” Or entice an attractive male she knows of but who is not familiar with her. Also not so unusual in 2011. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/86 "2011-04-03T18:25:42Z")
When the hell did “prostituting” come into things? There is nothing unusual or skeevy about sending a naughty picture to someone you presumably know. That is a matter of private correspondence, it’s not really your business or your place to judge. If you happen to stumble up someone’s private correspondence, the only right thing to do is to warn them that their correspondence is not private. Karma doesn’t have loopholes. If you know you are doing the wrong thing, it’s wrong to do it, even if you can think of some far-fetched scenario where it could possibly be okay. I think it’s fair to say in the first scenario that the textee left out essential information (“I’m not the guy you are trying to text”) for a reason (“if she knows that, she won’t send more topless pictures.”) He wasn’t confused or ambiguous or convinced that it was a random-number booty call. He knew full well that she meant that pic for someone else. Thus, no matter how hard he tries to justify it, he did a sleazy thing. ---
**Author:** ![MuleSkinner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@MuleSkinner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MuleSkinner)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/87 "2011-04-03T19:06:20Z")
> [@dawson](#): > > Or entice an attractive male she knows of but who is not familiar with her. Also not so unusual in 2011. Irrelevant (and getting texts with pics from girls you don’t recognize but know who you are and invite you to a party IS unusual). As I showed, the OP thought that the caller thought that he was the person that had the phone number before he did, not your made up scenario. It’s his intent that we’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![dawson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@dawson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dawson)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/88 "2011-04-03T19:35:43Z")
> [@MuleSkinner](#): > > Irrelevant (and getting texts with pics from girls you don’t recognize but know who you are and invite you to a party IS unusual). As I showed, the OP thought that the caller thought that he was the person that had the phone number before he did, not your made up scenario. It’s his intent that we’re talking about. No we ( I at least) am talking about both their intents and degree of responsibility. And you have yet to address her responsibility for her actions. And getting texts from girls that know you but you’re not all that familiar with is not as unsusual as you say. Just because it may not happen in your social circles doesn’t mean it’s not more comon place in other circles. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/89 "2011-04-03T19:46:35Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > When the hell did “prostituting” come into things? There is nothing unusual or skeevy about sending a naughty picture to someone you presumably know. No, it is unusual and skeevy if it’s not your boyfriend/husband. Even then it’s a tiny bit of both, but that’s OK! ---
**Author:** ![MuleSkinner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@MuleSkinner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MuleSkinner)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/90 "2011-04-03T19:58:22Z")
> [@dawson](#): > > No we ( I at least) am talking about both their intents and degree of responsibility. Bullshit. I was responding to the following post of yours and now you’re trying to move the goalpost: > [@](#): > > I don’t think it’s obvious at all. In fact one could argue that if the sender was known to the recipient that she would not have found it necessary to include the first picture at all, as her name would have sufficed. When you call / text / email anyone you know well do feel the need to include a picture? Most people don’t. Only when the recipient is not all that familiar with you might you feel it necessary to remind them / entice them / introduce yourself with a picture. > [@](#): > > And you have yet to address her responsibility for her actions. That’s right, I refuse to let you move the goalpost and talk about something other than what post of yours I responded to. > [@](#): > > And getting texts from girls that know you but you’re not all that familiar with is not as unsusual as you say. The OP didn’t recognize her and his post and thread title are enough for the rest of us to recognize he knew he was responding to someone that thought he was someone else. You can keep pretending the OP wrote about something else, however. ---
**Author:** ![dawson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@dawson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dawson)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/91 "2011-04-03T20:08:13Z")
> [@MuleSkinner](#): > > Bullshit. I was responding to the following post of yours and now you’re trying to move the goalpost: > > That’s right, I refuse to let you move the goalpost and talk about something other than what post of yours I responded to. > The OP didn’t recognize her and his post and thread title are enough for the rest of us to recognize he knew he was responding to someone that thought he was someone else. You can keep pretending the OP wrote about something else, however. Once again, in case your not trying to be intenionally obtuse, I’ve already acknowledged the OP fault in his actions. Now, you can ignore the senders responsibilty in this exchange all you want but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Your refusal to address just speaks to your obstinance. ---
**Author:** ![MuleSkinner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@MuleSkinner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MuleSkinner)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/92 "2011-04-03T20:28:58Z")
> [@dawson](#): > > Once again, in case your not trying to be intenionally obtuse, I’ve already acknowledged the OP fault in his actions. And you went on to discuss how she may have known who the OP is, which is irrelevant to the OP’s actions since he believed the text wasn’t intended for him. > [@](#): > > Now, you can ignore the senders responsibilty in this exchange all you want but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Your refusal to address just speaks to your obstinance. You can discuss how she should be more careful in the future with someone that cares to have that discussion with you. I’m not going to allow you rope me in to an irrelevant bullshit topic to deflect from the idiotic remarks you’ve made. ---
**Author:** ![dawson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@dawson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dawson)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/93 "2011-04-03T20:39:13Z")
I apoligize. I thought I was discusing the OP with someone intelligent enough to realize that culpability rarely lies with just one party. I was obviously wrong. Consider this discussion over. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/94 "2011-04-03T21:18:58Z")
OK stop it, you two. Go to the pit if you want to start slinging it at one another but keep it out of MPSIMS. **Ellen Cherry MPSIMS Moderator** ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/95 "2011-04-04T01:13:26Z")
There’s a Thurber story about a guy whose phone number was similar to that of a local business and he kept getting calls for it by mistake. Eventually he gets fed up and when the caller demands to know if he’s reached the Shu-Rite Shoe Store the jokester replies “Shu-Rite Shoe Store, good morning!”. The caller starts griping bitterly about the poor quality of the shoes he bought there and demands a refund. Our hero commiserates with him, declares that, yes, their shoes are very, very shoddy, there have been many complaints, and _of course_ if the customer comes back he’ll receive a full refund and apologies. He later tells this story around with a certain amount of glee at what must have transpired when the irate customer showed up at the store expecting his refund. Now _that’s_ evil. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/96 "2011-04-04T04:03:19Z")
I lived with my grandparents for a couple of years when I was a teen (long story). My grandparents’ phone number, which they’d had for something like 30 years at that point, was something like 817-555-1234. A local hospital started running TV ads for something, which would flash the hospital number…817-555-5555 and in the line below would say EXT 1234. They didn’t use sound for the number, just the visual. People would think that the extension number wasn’t an extension, but an alternate last four numbers for the phone number. My grandfather asked the hospital management, politely, to change their ads, because he was tired of getting phone calls for the hospital. Nope, it cost them LOTS OF MONEY to make those ads, and by gum, he could just tell everyone about the extension number. He got tired of this, and found out the private home number of the head of the hospital. From then on, when someone called Grandpa’s number, he’d give out the head’s number. Amazingly, the ads were changed to something that was a bit clearer. ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/97 "2011-04-04T08:11:18Z")
I impersonated someone via text message once. Long story short, I had let my bf-at-the-time borrow my car for an hour, and he refused to bring it back for over a week. I had reported it stolen (and told him so, but like a dumbass he kept driving it anyway) and so eventually the cops ran the plates and arrested him. I got my car back, after paying $300 to get it out of impound, and in it was a bunch of his stuff, including his cell phone. A couple days later he got a text from his roommate whose house he was in the process of moving out of, saying that he needed to come get his stuff soon or the guy would just have to get rid of it. I texted back and said to just go ahead and get rid of it. Must have been some decent stuff because he was all, “What? Why?” and I said I didn’t need it anymore. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/98 "2011-04-04T14:01:24Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > Karma doesn’t have loopholes. Nor does it exist. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/99 "2011-04-04T14:19:17Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > (just be sure she’s over 18!) My son is 16. The other day he told me some girl kept sending him pics of herself. He hands me his phone. Boobs. :eek: I hand him back his phone and start a very serious discussion. Eventually he falls over laughing. It is April 1st, and the pic is his fat buddies manboobs. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-burn-a-hot-one-in-hell-for-this/576588/100 "2011-04-05T02:27:42Z")
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