# I'm gonna have to pit all you butt-hurt snowflakes

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 15, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203 "2017-01-15T03:22:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/261 "2017-01-17T03:41:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Anyways, stay angry, bitter, and hysterical and see what it gains you.

It’s worked pretty well for Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/262 "2017-01-17T03:48:59Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> Like, for example, implying people that criticize Obama do it because they are racist.

:dubious: Are you seriously claiming that there **aren’t** a lot of people criticizing Obama because they are racist? Do you live in a cave on Mars, perchance?

Nobody is claiming that racism is the **only** reason anybody ever criticizes Obama. But I don’t see how you can pretend that racism doesn’t play a big role in much of the criticism of Obama.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/263 "2017-01-17T03:52:07Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> ^ This ^
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> Like, for example, implying people that criticize Obama do it because they are racist.

I wonder where we got that idea? Oh, that’s right, the GOP candidate was a klan endorsed birther.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/264 "2017-01-17T04:04:42Z")

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“Oh, the world’s not going to end! Stop being so melodramatic!”

Well, seriously. In the last 24 hours, Trump has threatened to start a trade war with Germany, he called NATO obsolete and said that the EU was a covert means of Germany controlling Europe. He has tossed a verbal bomb into Europe, threatening a stability that was created in the wake of World War II, which (coincidentally?) looks like Putin’s Christmas wishlist.

Now, maybe you think this is a good thing. But even from a neutral POV, Trump is signalling massive change, all before he even takes office. Surely even the fans of Trump can acknowledge that this is not just business as usual.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/265 "2017-01-17T05:35:14Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> :dubious: Are you seriously claiming that there **aren’t** a lot of people criticizing Obama because they are racist? Do you live in a cave on Mars, perchance?
> 
> Nobody is claiming that racism is the **only** reason anybody ever criticizes Obama. But I don’t see how you can pretend that racism doesn’t play a big role in much of the criticism of Obama.

I think you need to take your objections about generalization and jumping to conclusions to **Madmonk28** , not me.

I’ll show you why (he says fully expecting the motivation for argument to be misrepresented)

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I wonder where we got that idea? Oh, that’s right, the GOP candidate was a klan endorsed birther.

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First I’ll point out that he used guilt by association as justification to call **Clothahump** and **Octopus** racists because Trump’s campaign was endorsed (an endorsement they strongly rejected) by the KKK and that Trump is a Birther. Using guilt by association to demonize people is bad enough but it’s worse than that, he wants to imply that Trump is a racist because the KKK endorsed his campaign, which is _another_ layer of guilt by association (and ignores the fact that the Trump campaign rejected that endorsement). Also that Trump is a racist because he is a Birther, sorry to get rational, but being a Birther doesn’t make one a racist, sure it makes one as thick as two short planks, but a racist? not necessarily. Some people argued that John McCain wasn’t qualified to be president over a similar issue, was it racism then too? or is it that race is a separate issue on the matter of whether the place of birth of a candidate disqualifies him to become president of the U.S.A. and therefore you can’t say that arguing that point makes one a racist?

What **Madmonk28** did there was prove **Octopus** correct, loaded terms are used to demonize opponents with callous disregard for what is true or not. I don’t like what someone says? I’ll just called them racist!, because they are Trump supporters (never mind whether they are not) and I think Trump is a racist, so there!, me right you wrong.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/266 "2017-01-17T05:36:32Z")

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Look, he’s gonna pivot! He’s got hours and hours left!

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/267 "2017-01-17T05:59:39Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> First I’ll point out that he used guilt by association as justification to call **Clothahump** and **Octopus** racists because Trump’s campaign was endorsed (an endorsement they strongly rejected) by the KKK and that Trump is a Birther.

Since this is the pit it needs to be pointed out that Clothy did call Hispanics in Texas “wetbacks” at the Giraffe Boards.

> [@Ale](#):
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> Using guilt by association to demonize people is bad enough but it’s worse than that, he wants to imply that Trump is a racist because the KKK endorsed his campaign, which is _another_ layer of guilt by association (and ignores the fact that the Trump campaign rejected that endorsement).

Trump had no problem on keeping helpers that gave him or made racist and bigoted tweets. Nor do I remember seeing supporters like this one being fired by El Trompo:

> **[AcehGround](https://www.acehground.com)**
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> AcehGround.com merupakan Portal Berita Aceh yang menyajikan Berita Terkini mulai dari Berita skala Daerah, Nasional hingga Internasional.

> [@Ale](#):
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> Also that Trump is a racist because he is a Birther, sorry to get rational, but being a Birther doesn’t make one a racist, sure it makes one as thick as two short planks, but a racist? not necessarily. Some people argued that John McCain wasn’t qualified to be president over a similar issue, was it racism then too?

AFAICR a lot had to do with the effort of showing how stupid the birther movement and Trump was in comparison; that is that the ones pointing out what was going on with McCain did not expect that much of anything would take place, in fact I think that a bipartisan statement was made in congress to confirm that McCain was a valid candidate regardless of him being born overseas.

No, the Birther movement had a racist reason to continue way past the time it should had expired.

> **[Colin Powell Is Right: Birtherism Is Racism](https://observer.com/2016/09/colin-powell-is-right-birtherism-is-racism/)**
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> Donald Trump should apologize to President Obama, and many others.

> [@](#):
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> In recently leaked emails, Colin Powell, former secretary of state, National Security advisor and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote: “the whole birther movement was racist. That’s what the 99% believe. When Trump couldn’t keep that up he said he also wanted to see if the certificate (Obama’s birth certificate) noted that he was a Muslim.” Powell went on to describe Donald Trump as “a national disgrace and international pariah.”
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> After President Obama has served in the White House for almost two terms, Donald Trump, one of the most visible voices in the birther movement in recent years, told The Washington Post he remains unwilling to say the president was born in the United States.
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> Some day presidential historians and professors of psychology will write write at length—as virtually all reputable journalists do today—about the political dementia and bigotry that led some opponents of President Obama to spread the lies that the president is not an American and that he is Muslim and not Christian.
> 
> Powell is right. Birtherism is racism. The lie that the president was not born in America was an attack on the legitimacy of America’s first black president. The lie that the president is a Muslim is a play for votes based on bigotry against Muslims and fear of Muslims—which is based on another lie, that Muslims as a group should be tarred as terrorists when the truth is the exact opposite.

[http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2011/04/social-scientists-look-at-racisms-role-in-birther-viewpoint/1#.V9ruuTXCd5U](http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2011/04/social-scientists-look-at-racisms-role-in-birther-viewpoint/1#.V9ruuTXCd5U)

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> ```
> While I can't speak to the birther movement specifically, this controversy and others like it are what initially sparked my interest and led to the recent publication in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology. President Obama has consistently faced a number of controversies that are, frankly, not based on fact. We thought that his critics' persistence in pursuing these fantasies, such as Obama's birth in a foreign nation or being a Muslim, in the face of facts saying otherwise, might be indirectly rooted in racism.
> 
> Our research investigated whether people who held racial prejudices might be more likely to see Obama as "un-American," presumably because of his race. Indeed, this is what we found. Whites who were prejudiced against Blacks were more likely to see Obama as un-American, and in turn, evaluated Obama as performing more poorly as president. Whites who were not prejudiced, and Blacks in general, did not do so. Additionally and importantly, this relationship was only found with Obama, as prejudiced Whites did not see Vice-President Joe Biden as un-American, despite the fact that Obama and Biden share political party affiliation and agenda.
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> The April 27 release of Obama's long-form birth certificate is a situation where President Obama and the White House eventually had to exert effort to quell a controversy that should never have been an issue. Our research indicates that one reason it may have initially become an issue at all has more to do with his race than his place of birth. We find that racial prejudice can, in part, influence evaluations of an elected leader, a phenomenon which is quite "un-American".
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> ```

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/268 "2017-01-17T06:06:10Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> I think you need to take your objections about generalization and jumping to conclusions to **Madmonk28** , not me.
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> I’ll show you why (he says fully expecting the motivation for argument to be misrepresented)
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> “”
> 
> First I’ll point out that he used guilt by association as justification to call **Clothahump** and **Octopus** racists because Trump’s campaign was endorsed (an endorsement they strongly rejected) by the KKK and that Trump is a Birther. Using guilt by association to demonize people is bad enough but it’s worse than that, he wants to imply that Trump is a racist because the KKK endorsed his campaign, which is _another_ layer of guilt by association (and ignores the fact that the Trump campaign rejected that endorsement). Also that Trump is a racist because he is a Birther, sorry to get rational, but being a Birther doesn’t make one a racist, sure it makes one as thick as two short planks, but a racist? not necessarily. Some people argued that John McCain wasn’t qualified to be president over a similar issue, was it racism then too? or is it that race is a separate issue on the matter of whether the place of birth of a candidate disqualifies him to become president of the U.S.A. and therefore you can’t say that arguing that point makes one a racist?
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> What **Madmonk28** did there was prove **Octopus** correct, loaded terms are used to demonize opponents with callous disregard for what is true or not. I don’t like what someone says? I’ll just called them racist!, because they are Trump supporters (never mind whether they are not) and I think Trump is a racist, so there!, me right you wrong.

Wow, you really like using the phrase “guilt by association” too bad it’s utter bullshit. Trump ran an openly racist campaign. He not only was endorsed by the Klan, he has a prominent white supremacist on his staff (Steve Bannon); has given interviews to radical fringe groups and used racist imagery from white supremacist sites in some of his ads. There are even recordings of people at his rallies screaming “nigger!” when Obama’s name is mentioned.

Similarly, supporting Trump is not guilt by association. It is an explicitly racist act. Trump ran on a campaign of overt racism and to try to coyly pretend that it was all just a big misunderstanding is bullshit. Own your fear, own your racism and own your president.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/269 "2017-01-17T06:20:43Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> :dubious: So far, AFAICT, the only reference you’ve made in this context to any actual persons allegedly belonging to any such “class” are student protestors at UC Davis.
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> Who, let us recall, were protesting an invitation to speak on their campus issued to Milo Yiannopoulos, the notorious right-wing bigot-apologist troll who published racist slurs about black actor Leslie Jones and fake homophobic tweets that he pretended came from her account. He encouraged harassment and threats directed at female game developers, wrote admiringly of neo-Nazi antisemitic and white nationalist movements, and has made no secret of the fact that he’s willing to say and do any amount of offensive bullshit for the sake of attention.  
> Students protesting a speaker invitation to Milo Yiannopoulos aren’t calling him a racist sexist amoral shit because “they think they can profit from it”. They’re calling him a racist sexist amoral shit because he **is** a racist sexist amoral shit.
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> As I said, being a racist sexist amoral shit is Yiannopoulos’s schtick. He deliberately engages in provocatively offensive nastiness so that liberals will condemn him for it, so he can then bullshit gullible conservatives into believing that those dreadful PC liberals are infringing his free-speech rights.
> 
> All that your evidence-free, nonspecific wafflewash about alleged left-wing “censoriousness” and “loaded language” and “political correctness” shows is that you have fallen for the “victimization” bullshit of Yiannopoulos and his bigot-apologist troll ilk.

“Evidence free” and “fake news” are also soon going to be cliche. [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/310964-obama-on-political-correctness-dont-go-around-just-looking-for](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/310964-obama-on-political-correctness-dont-go-around-just-looking-for)

Here is the Democratic president saying what I’ve been saying, albeit a tad more eloquently. But please, carry on with your dishonesty. Who you fooling but the echo chamber?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/270 "2017-01-17T06:21:02Z")

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I forgot to link about the Trump tweets, AFAIK Trump never did apologize for this one:

[https://thinkprogress.org/trump-tweeted-fabricated-murder-stats-from-a-neo-nazi-and-this-is-how-the-media-reported-it-125064da6372#.lfh2fl2sa](https://thinkprogress.org/trump-tweeted-fabricated-murder-stats-from-a-neo-nazi-and-this-is-how-the-media-reported-it-125064da6372#.lfh2fl2sa)

> [@](#):
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> Donald Trump tweeted a series of inaccurate murder statistics from the “Crime Statistics Bureau — San Francisco.” The bureau doesn’t exist and the statistics were fabricated. It appears the numbers were manipulated to perpetuate racism against African Americans. For example, the graphic claims that 81% of whites are killed by blacks. The actual percentage, based on the latest data from the FBI, is 14 percent.
> 
> The image began spreading on Twitter when it was posted by a neo-Nazi who uses a swastika as his avatar. The account almost exclusively tweets racist memes.

There is indeed no evidence that Trump has stopped looking at unsavory sources to get not only Tweets, but his sorry view of the world. And the big problem here is that it is an issue that is bound to affect policy and the decisions that he will made during his presidency.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/271 "2017-01-17T06:44:58Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Here is the Democratic president saying what I’ve been saying

:rolleyes: Obama doesn’t say anything there about liberals allegedly “knowingly us[ing] loaded language deceptively”, which is what you claimed (with no specific evidence).

Sure, general advice along the lines of “hey, don’t be too oversensitive”, which is all that Obama is saying in that interview, is good advice. But you are drama-queening it up into some kind of pretended massive danger to free speech emanating from the left, with no particular evidence to support your claim. And that suggests that you’ve fallen for the alarmist bullshit of professed right-wing trolls like Yiannopoulos.

Speaking of whom, I notice that since I explained and cited the actual facts of the Yiannopoulos/UC Davis incident and his other behavior to you, you’ve stopped whinging about the anti-Yiannopoulos protests as a case of _“the most violent mob decides what can be said”_ or _“an angry mob through the threat of violence and destruction of property intimidates speakers and those who want to listen”._

If you don’t want to be further embarrassed by your Chicken-Little squawking in the future, you might want to stop getting your information from attention-whoring liars like him.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/272 "2017-01-17T06:48:48Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> “Evidence free” and “fake news” are also soon going to be cliche.

Agreed. As soon as Trump learned to describe any factual information that he didn’t like as “fake news” the phrase became tainted.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/273 "2017-01-17T07:09:33Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> :rolleyes: Obama doesn’t say anything there about liberals allegedly “knowingly us[ing] loaded language deceptively”, which is what you claimed (with no specific evidence).
> 
> Sure, general advice along the lines of “hey, don’t be too oversensitive”, which is all that Obama is saying in that interview, is good advice. But you are drama-queening it up into some kind of pretended massive danger to free speech emanating from the left, with no particular evidence to support your claim. And that suggests that you’ve fallen for the alarmist bullshit of professed right-wing trolls like Yiannopoulos.
> 
> Speaking of whom, I notice that since I explained and cited the actual facts of the Yiannopoulos/UC Davis incident and his other behavior to you, you’ve stopped whinging about the anti-Yiannopoulos protests as a case of _“the most violent mob decides what can be said”_ or _“an angry mob through the threat of violence and destruction of property intimidates speakers and those who want to listen”._
> 
> If you don’t want to be further embarrassed by your Chicken-Little squawking in the future, you might want to stop getting your information from attention-whoring liars like him.

I never even mentioned Milo in this thread. Did I? Maybe I did, but I doubt it. The fact is that the left does engage in far more violence and other forms of suppression with regards to freedom of speech and freedom of the press. You folks are far from liberal in the classical definition of the word.

And I don’t get embarrassed by arguing with people in The Pit anymore than arguing with people in The Pit is intrinsically embarrassing.

Anyways, it’s not just me noticing the anti-liberalness of the left.

[https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/opinion/will-the-left-survive-the-millennials.html?\_r=0](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/opinion/will-the-left-survive-the-millennials.html?_r=0)  
[https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/opinion/trigger-warnings-safe-spaces-and-free-speech-too.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/opinion/trigger-warnings-safe-spaces-and-free-speech-too.html)  
[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/24/nadine-strossen-former-aclu-president-slams-libera/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/24/nadine-strossen-former-aclu-president-slams-libera/)

Google is your friend. Or perhaps not.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/274 "2017-01-17T07:18:24Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Wow, you really like using the phrase “guilt by association” too bad it’s utter bullshit. Trump ran an openly racist campaign. He not only was endorsed by the Klan, he has a prominent white supremacist on his staff (Steve Bannon); has given interviews to radical fringe groups and used racist imagery from white supremacist sites in some of his ads. There are even recordings of people at his rallies screaming “nigger!” when Obama’s name is mentioned.
> 
> Similarly, supporting Trump is not guilt by association. It is an explicitly racist act. Trump ran on a campaign of overt racism and to try to coyly pretend that it was all just a big misunderstanding is bullshit. Own your fear, own your racism and own your president.

Now I’m a racist too. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/275 "2017-01-17T07:38:12Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I never even mentioned Milo in this thread.

:dubious: You mean you were making all those sweeping generalizations without even an **imaginary** specific incident to substantiate them? Wow. I apologize for giving you too much credit.

[QUOTE=octopus]  
The fact is that the left does engage in far more violence and other forms of suppression with regards to freedom of speech and freedom of the press.  
[/quote]

What you don’t seem to be grasping is that **your repeatedly asserting that this is a “fact” doesn’t actually make it so** , especially when you can’t seem to provide evidence for it.

And no, this short list of unsubstantiated opinion pieces that you’re so proud of yourself for having googled does not in fact contain any such evidence. Let’s take a look at them:

[QUOTE=octopus]  
[https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/opinion/will-the-left-survive-the-millennials.html?\_r=0](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/opinion/will-the-left-survive-the-millennials.html?_r=0)

[/quote]

An op-ed writer whining about the fact that another writer walked out during his speech at a writers’ festival, and many people later complained about its content. There appears to have been exactly zero violence or any other form of actual suppression directed at his speech.

[QUOTE=octopus]  
[https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/opinion/trigger-warnings-safe-spaces-and-free-speech-too.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/opinion/trigger-warnings-safe-spaces-and-free-speech-too.html)  
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Another op-ed writer analyzing a much-publicized university policy on “trigger warnings and safe spaces” as a public relations maneuver. Again, no mention whatsoever of any violence or any other form of actual suppression of free speech.

[QUOTE=octopus]

[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/24/nadine-strossen-former-aclu-president-slams-libera/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/24/nadine-strossen-former-aclu-president-slams-libera/)

[/quote]

Another expression of opinion, this time by the President of the ACLU, also containing exactly zero allegations of any violence or any other form of actual suppression of free speech.

So, **octopus** , you have still provided exactly zero evidence for the alleged “fact” of liberal suppression of free speech that you claim to be so concerned about.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/276 "2017-01-17T07:59:02Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> The professional and perpetual outraged class is now a source of ridicule from the right and the sane left.

The professional and perpetual outraged class is the right.

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/277 "2017-01-17T08:11:19Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Okay, people. You’ve had your tantrums repeatedly since the election. We grown-ups thought they were amusing at first, but now they are just annoying. It’s now time for you to face up to real life.
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> Donald Trump is going to be sworn in on Friday as the President. Take a look [at this](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d97/Clothahump/15401153_1007921692646526_8764059935336559599_n1_zpsr7i5a1et.jpg) and read it carefully. Then grow up and deal with it,

As much as I deplore Trump as our next President, I’m all for the peaceful transfer of power.

But if you call me a fucking “snowflake” to my face, were gonna go.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/278 "2017-01-17T13:02:59Z")

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Russian! _Heel!_

Good boy.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/279 "2017-01-17T13:08:19Z")

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> [Huh](http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Clothahump/media/Misc/13392096_1775440262692031_1588815421231902655_o1_zpsmc2zs19a.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1). Do you lack [all self-awareness](http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Clothahump/media/Political/IMourn.jpg.html?sort=3&o=12)?

I’d just like to thank **orcenio** once again for digging up this incredible gem of hypocrisy from **Clothahump**. Well done!

EDIT: In case **Clothy** decides to take down the evidence of his own incredible hypocrisy, it’s a picture he posted after the 2012 election of a tombstone that says “The United States of America, 1776-2012”, and a wreath that says “I mourn the passing of my country”.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/280 "2017-01-17T14:13:52Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> Now I’m a racist too. :rolleyes:

Well yeah, clearly. Your insistence that there was no real racism in the Trump campaign, or the birther movement were dead giveaways. Only a racist would intentionally turn a blind eye to such naked hate to justify their twisted world view. Deep down, I think you knew.

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