# I'm gonna have to pit all you butt-hurt snowflakes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 15, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203 "2017-01-15T03:22:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/821 "2017-01-31T15:34:37Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> None of that applies to me. There’s plenty of silliness on this board, but there’s also plenty of reasonable criticism. It’s probably easier, and takes less effort, to focus on the silliness.

Why would I take issue with the reasonable criticism?

Its the silliness that goes unchecked on this board that needs to be criticized.

Don’t you think that reasonable rational liberals have a duty to tamp down on the silliness? Or do we just ignore the silliness and join the choir on the reasonable stuff.

State a reasonable position and I will agree but I doubt I will do much more than that unless someone takes the opposite position.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/822 "2017-01-31T15:44:55Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Why would I take issue with the reasonable criticism?
> 
> Its the silliness that goes unchecked on this board that needs to be criticized.
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> Don’t you think that reasonable rational liberals have a duty to tamp down on the silliness? Or do we just ignore the silliness and join the choir on the reasonable stuff.
> 
> State a reasonable position and I will agree but I doubt I will do much more than that unless someone takes the opposite position.

There’s plenty of reasonable discussion and disagreement within that reasonable criticism. It’s fine to tamp down on silliness when you see it, but based on many of your recent posts you’ve swept together all the criticism, or almost all of it, into the silliness basket – you stated, IIRC, that _now_, after the refugee order, it was reasonable to attack Trump… when of course it was plenty reasonable to attack him about his plan to do just this since he said it months ago.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/823 "2017-01-31T15:53:03Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> That’s because you don’t immediately vehemently agree with every position put forth. You actually have the GALL to discuss an issue, instead of just simply agreeing. You might even be called a troll, or added to the Troll’s R Us thread (if you haven’t already)

Meh the Republitroll thread is just more liberal self stroking and looking for affirmation from within the bubble.

As I understand it, trolling is making intentionally provocative statement that you don’t even believe in order to elicit a reaction.

For some reason, some people on this board seem to have trouble with the notion that I dislike Hillary and blame her for letting Trump win. They have trouble with the notion that I think that violent protests are bad an reflect badly on the entire protest. They have trouble believing that I think that the protests surrounding the inauguration was largely venting by snowflakes about the fact that Trump won the election.

This board is great at pointing out conservative stupidity and irrationality but we turn a blind eye to liberal stupidity. It as if they people that liberal stupidity isn’t as harmful to liberalism as conservative stupidity is to conservatism. This board is like Arrakis for conservatives (culling the weak) and a safety space for liberals where even the stupidest liberal are taken seriously and nurtured.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/824 "2017-01-31T16:01:09Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Fortunately, this board provides a simple tool that makes those threads readable again.

Unfortunately, it’s not available to me. Mods can’t put people on ignore.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/825 "2017-01-31T16:10:15Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> There’s plenty of reasonable discussion and disagreement within that reasonable criticism. It’s fine to tamp down on silliness when you see it, but based on many of your recent posts you’ve swept together all the criticism, or almost all of it, into the silliness basket – you stated, IIRC, that _now_, after the refugee order, it was reasonable to attack Trump… when of course it was plenty reasonable to attack him about his plan to do just this since he said it months ago.

I saw a lot of silliness and no one else tamping down on it so there might have been some friendly fire.

I don’t think I criticized people for being concerned about what Trump might do, at the very least it was clear that he was going to nominate more conservative justices to SCOTUS. I think I mostly criticized ProtestJ20 for rioting during the inauguration. I chuckled a bit at the women’s march because it mostly seemed like venting by the ready for Hillary crowd that Hillary lost.

If implied that it was not reasonable to attack Trump in any way before the refugee order, then I either misspoke or was misread. I thought I was pretty clear about the specific types of idiocy I was calling out. The electors should switch their vote to Hillary. The Russians were responsible for revealing Hillary’s duplicity, cheating and corruption, which helped Trump win, so trump is not a legitimate POTUS. Trump is a Russian Manchurian agent or will be coerced into obeying Putin because the Russian mob will threaten his family. Trump has sex with his daughter. Trump didn’t really win because he lost the popular vote. Trump won because of the racists (who apparently don’t have much of a problem with a back dude named Barack Hussein Obama becoming POTUS) in the rust belt states. Trump won because of misogynists (like being a woman actually hurt the female candidate whose campaign spent a lot of time money and energy highlighting the fact that she was a woman, historic even). And then there is all the Trump focused hyperventilating about stuff that just about any of the other Republicans would have done.

I think that is MOST of the idiocy I have been calling out.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/826 "2017-01-31T16:40:00Z")

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Fuck sakes. Damuri already have the gun/police threads to wall paper his verbal diarrhea with… do we really need one more thread where that he’s going to make completely unreadable?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/827 "2017-01-31T16:42:08Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> If implied that it was not reasonable to attack Trump in any way before the refugee order

You didn’t imply it. You said it outright.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/828 "2017-01-31T16:44:31Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I saw a lot of silliness and no one else tamping down on it so there might have been some friendly fire.
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> I don’t think I criticized people for being concerned about what Trump might do, at the very least it was clear that he was going to nominate more conservative justices to SCOTUS. I think I mostly criticized ProtestJ20 for rioting during the inauguration. I chuckled a bit at the women’s march because it mostly seemed like venting by the ready for Hillary crowd that Hillary lost.
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> If implied that it was not reasonable to attack Trump in any way before the refugee order, then I either misspoke or was misread. I thought I was pretty clear about the specific types of idiocy I was calling out. The electors should switch their vote to Hillary. The Russians were responsible for revealing Hillary’s duplicity, cheating and corruption, which helped Trump win, so trump is not a legitimate POTUS. Trump is a Russian Manchurian agent or will be coerced into obeying Putin because the Russian mob will threaten his family. Trump has sex with his daughter. Trump didn’t really win because he lost the popular vote. Trump won because of the racists (who apparently don’t have much of a problem with a back dude named Barack Hussein Obama becoming POTUS) in the rust belt states. Trump won because of misogynists (like being a woman actually hurt the female candidate whose campaign spent a lot of time money and energy highlighting the fact that she was a woman, historic even). And then there is all the Trump focused hyperventilating about stuff that just about any of the other Republicans would have done.
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> I think that is MOST of the idiocy I have been calling out.

Some of that is idiocy and silliness, some is not, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/829 "2017-01-31T16:50:11Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> As I understand it, trolling is making intentionally provocative statement **that you don’t even believe** in order to elicit a reaction.

The part I bolded doesn’t matter here. The recent suspension of **Clothahump** is my cite.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/830 "2017-01-31T17:08:24Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Fuck sakes. Damuri already have the gun/police threads to wall paper his verbal diarrhea with… do we really need one more thread where that he’s going to make completely unreadable?

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> This message is hidden because Damuri Ajashi is on your ignore list.

I think I prefer this version of the thread … My ignore button has been getting a good workout lately.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/831 "2017-01-31T17:24:48Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> YES!!! Weeding out the stupid on the liberal side is much more important on a liberal site like this where there is plenty of trump bashing going on already.

So, concern troll is concerned.  
Gotcha.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/832 "2017-01-31T17:46:23Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> So ProtestJ20 was about banning immigration from these 7 countries, that’s why they were burning cars and bashing in windows?

So all the people protesting were burning cars and bashing in windows? I mean, if you get to speak in silly, dumb absolutes, so do I; so yeah, that’s precisely what they were protesting.

In seriousness, of course about 99.999% of people who’ve protested Trump have obeyed the law, and you know as well as I do that the protests are that Trump is an evil man who intends upon doing harm to his country. I am mystified as to why people who wait until after he’s done everything wrong he intends to do to protest, when it’s very, very apparent that he’s embarking upon precisely the hideous blueprint people feared.

> [@](#):
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> So if someone from one of the 7 banned countries commits a terrorist act, would that make the ban prescient?

If this were to happen then the ban would have failed in its stated purpose, so it wouldn’t be prescient, it would be incompetent.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/833 "2017-01-31T18:09:59Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> …If this were to happen then the ban would have failed in its stated purpose, so it wouldn’t be prescient, it would be incompetent.

(post shortened)

It would mean that the temporary travel ban against these seven countries is not perfect. That doesn’t mean it’s not a step in the right direction. In 90 days, after federal agencies have submitted their reports, a new plan may, or may not, be implemented.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/834 "2017-01-31T18:14:19Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Unfortunately, it’s not available to me. Mods can’t put people on ignore.

I can understand why that’s so, but it’s still gotta suck.

Sorry, and thanks for doing what you do.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/835 "2017-01-31T18:22:18Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> So all the people protesting were burning cars and bashing in windows? I mean, if you get to speak in silly, dumb absolutes, so do I; so yeah, that’s precisely what they were protesting.
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> In seriousness, of course about 99.999% of people who’ve protested Trump have obeyed the law, and you know as well as I do that the protests are that Trump is an evil man who intends upon doing harm to his country. I am mystified as to why people who wait until after he’s done everything wrong he intends to do to protest, when it’s very, very apparent that he’s embarking upon precisely the hideous blueprint people feared.

Personally, as freedom of speech is important to me, I will wait until he bans political protesting before I protest, as protesting before he does what he says he will do doesn’t make any sense.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/836 "2017-01-31T18:26:59Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> You didn’t imply it. You said it outright.

cite?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/837 "2017-01-31T18:28:51Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Some of that is idiocy and silliness, some is not, IMO.

Well, your opinions are your own but this is the stuff I’ve been calling out.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/838 "2017-01-31T18:31:04Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I think I prefer this version of the thread … My ignore button has been getting a good workout lately.

Blinding yourself to inconvenient truths because you can’t actually address the substance of an argument is a good way to preserve the integrity of a bubble. You can almost tell which liberals are bubble breathing snowflakes by their “threats” to put others on ignore. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/839 "2017-01-31T18:32:44Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Well, your opinions are your own but this is the stuff I’ve been calling out.

Then your silliness and idiocy meter is out of whack. It’s reasonable to disagree on and have discussions about many of those things.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/840 "2017-01-31T18:37:50Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> The part I bolded doesn’t matter here. The recent suspension of **Clothahump** is my cite.

Wait, Clothahump got suspended for making intentionally provocative statements that that he believed to be true?!?!?!

The pit is littered with intentionally provocative statements. I suspect that there must have been some disingenuity involved.

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