# I'm gonna have to pit all you butt-hurt snowflakes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 15, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203 "2017-01-15T03:22:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/841 "2017-01-31T18:40:25Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > So, concern troll is concerned. > Gotcha. So, you think I’m actually a conservative posing as a liberal that is concerned with some liberal positions? And THIS is how liberal orthodoxy is enforced. Anyone that doesn’t tow the line along all vectors is actually a false flag? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/842 "2017-01-31T18:40:36Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > If implied that it was not reasonable to attack Trump in any way before the refugee order > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > You didn’t imply it. You said it outright. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > cite? Cite 1: > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I was making fun of snowflakes who were hyperventilating BEFORE Trump did anything Cite 2: > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I think you are a snowflake for using hyperbolic language to flip out about the stuff he said during the primary. Shall we continue? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/843 "2017-01-31T18:44:52Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > So all the people protesting were burning cars and bashing in windows? I mean, if you get to speak in silly, dumb absolutes, so do I; so yeah, that’s precisely what they were protesting. What silly dumb absolutes do I speak in? Do you have a cite? > [@](#): > > In seriousness, of course about 99.999% of people who’ve protested Trump have obeyed the law, Yes of course and I have distinguished protestj20 from the women’s march. ProtestJ20 is violent and the women’s march was an angry reaction by mostly the ready for Hillary crowd to their loss. > [@](#): > > and you know as well as I do that the protests are that Trump is an evil man who intends upon doing harm to his country. I am mystified as to why people who wait until after he’s done everything wrong he intends to do to protest, when it’s very, very apparent that he’s embarking upon precisely the hideous blueprint people feared. And that was apparent before he even took office? that he was going to be worse than your run of the mill Republican? > [@](#): > > If this were to happen then the ban would have failed in its stated purpose, so it wouldn’t be prescient, it would be incompetent. Were the protests incompetent too? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/844 "2017-01-31T18:45:09Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Wait, Clothahump got suspended for making intentionally provocative statements that that he believed to be true?!?!?! > > The pit is littered with intentionally provocative statements. I suspect that there must have been some disingenuity involved. Only a complete moron could possibly believe what he posted was true. I do believe you have a point. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/845 "2017-01-31T18:46:02Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (post shortened) > > It would mean that the temporary travel ban against these seven countries is not perfect. That is the understatement of the year and we are still in January. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/846 "2017-01-31T18:46:43Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > So, you think I’m actually a conservative posing as a liberal that is concerned with some liberal positions? And THIS is how liberal orthodoxy is enforced. Anyone that doesn’t tow the line along all vectors is actually a false flag? A concern troll need not be insencere. That is your definiition. They can be people who overly analyze and nitpick thei own side fearing that every fauly will turn into a crack into the dike that floods the lands. If their concerns were actually to be completely addressed then paralysis would take place. They can also be people who are on the other side who play the same game in the hopes that paralysis takes place. Right now you seem to think yourself some kind of noble gadfly, but the fact of the matter is you are being a douchecanoe who seems to think that calling everyone snowflakes (and then whining when called on it like the most special of snowflaes) is somehow inciteful. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/847 "2017-01-31T19:02:19Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Right now you seem to think yourself some kind of noble gadfly, but the fact of the matter is you are being a douchecanoe who seems to think that calling everyone snowflakes (and then whining when called on it like the most special of snowflaes) is somehow inciteful. Well, it _is_ quite inciteful, but not very insightful. 😉 [_spelling Nazi is ashamed, slinks out of thread_] ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/848 "2017-01-31T19:37:56Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Wait, Clothahump got suspended for making intentionally provocative statements that that he believed to be true?!?!?! He got suspended after admitting to making intentionally provocative statements, period. > [@What is trolling?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-trolling/544298/4): > > Trolling does not necessarily require that the position taken must be insincere. The principle requirement is that the post is for the principle intention of making people angry or upset. > > Nor does the admission of trolling absolve the troller of the charge. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/849 "2017-01-31T20:12:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Then your silliness and idiocy meter is out of whack. It’s reasonable to disagree on and have discussions about many of those things. Many? really? Which ones can you defend? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/850 "2017-01-31T20:22:05Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Many? really? Which ones can you defend? Whether racism and misogyny were involved in Trump’s campaign and success; whether Trump’s electors should have been encouraged to vote against Trump; whether it’s reasonable to be concerned that Putin might have undue influence with Trump; whether it’s reasonable to be highly critical of Trump for doing things that other Republicans would probably also do. All of these are reasonable discussions to have. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/851 "2017-01-31T20:25:10Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Cite 1: and the rest of that cite reads: "I was making fun of snowflakes who were hyperventilating BEFORE Trump did anything. Really. What had Trump done on the eve of his inauguration that you could violently protest against in downtown DC? I was making fun of Snowflakes that insisted that Trump was not a legitimate POTUS because of the popular vote or Russian hacking or that he was a Manchurian candidate thrall of Putin. These things deserve to be made fun of. If you are concerned about Trump’s recent executive order, well then that’s something he actually did that was probably illegal and deeply disturbing and everyone shout be concerned." In context, does that cite really seem like I was explicitly saying you can’t criticize Trump in any way? > [@](#): > > Cite 2: And the whole quote on that cite reads:“I think you are a snowflake for using hyperbolic language to flip out about the stuff he said during the primary. Calling him a Manchurian candidate. Accusing him of incest with his daughter, saying that the russian mob will force him to act in the best interests of Russia, saying that he is somehow not a legitimate president because the Russians hacked Hillary’s emails and revealed her duplicity corruption and cheating, saying that he is somehow not really the president because he lost the popular vote, shit like that.” in context, does THAT cite really say that you can’t criticize Trump in any way? > [@](#): > > Shall we continue? Yes, please do. I was critical of Trump thoughout his campaign. I was critical of his picks for cabinet. I was critical of picking bannon. I was critical of almost everything trump and his suppor5ters have done and said. There is nothing wrong with mere criticism. Its the hyperventilating, hyperbolic conspiracy theorists who speculate that Trump is a Manchurian candidate in thrall to Russia because they have pictures of him having sex with his daughter of something ridiculous like that. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/852 "2017-01-31T20:31:49Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > A concern troll need not be insencere. That is your definiition. They can be people who overly analyze and nitpick thei own side fearing that every fauly will turn into a crack into the dike that floods the lands. If their concerns were actually to be completely addressed then paralysis would take place. > > They can also be people who are on the other side who play the same game in the hopes that paralysis takes place. > > Right now you seem to think yourself some kind of noble gadfly, but the fact of the matter is you are being a douchecanoe who seems to think that calling everyone snowflakes (and then whining when called on it like the most special of snowflaes) is somehow inciteful. > **[Concern troll](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll)** > > A concern troll is someone who disingenuously visits sites of an opposing ideology to disrupt conversation by offering unwanted advice on how to solve problems which do not really exist. Topics of "concern" usually involve tactical use of rhetoric,... “In environments of genuine groupthink, applying the concern troll label may serve as a means of enforcing conformity and punishing (or silencing) dissent.” I would suggest that this site has a predominately liberal population and application of these sort of labels are being used to enforce liberal orthodoxy. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/853 "2017-01-31T20:50:40Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Whether racism and misogyny were involved in Trump’s campaign and success; whether Trump’s electors should have been encouraged to vote against Trump; whether it’s reasonable to be concerned that Putin might have undue influence with Trump; whether it’s reasonable to be highly critical of Trump for doing things that other Republicans would probably also do. All of these are reasonable discussions to have. Those are the less idiotic/silly ones. I disagree with you on almost all of them. blaming racism when our last president was black seem silly to me. Where did all these racists come from and where were they in 2008/2012? You can argue but I have not seen anyone successfully tackle that fly in the ointment except to say “well you don’t understand racists as well as I do, they’ll sit at home in places like Pennsatucky and Michigan if a black man is running but if they get a chance to elect a REAL white man (with a Jewish daughter, Jewish grandchildren, Jewish daughter-in-law, etc). BTW, you’re a racist Damuri”. but, you’re right, this is probably not so stupid that you can’t debate it. blaming misogyny when one of the primary platforms Hilary was running on was the mere fact that she was a woman. I mean I know she was a bad candidate but geez, was she really just daring the misogynists to beat her or did she think (as did many) that being a woman wouldn’t hurt her during the election) but like the above it is not so stupid that you can’t debate it. Trying to overturn the legitimate results of an election by encouraging mass defection of faithless electors doesn’t seem silly or idiotic to you? Not simply under influence of Putin, heck you could accuse anyone of being unduly influence by SOMEBODY. No it was the specific charge of Manchurian candidate, being coerced by the Russian mob, etc. that’s what I found idiotic. Having Trump specific criticism for generic Republican positions seems stupid but I suppose this isn’t slam dunk idiocy but it does somewhat defang the notion that Trump is some sort of uniquely horrible thing. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/854 "2017-01-31T20:54:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Damuri Ajashi > This message is hidden because Damuri Ajashi is on your ignore list. This is a beautiful thing. Sic semper troll. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/855 "2017-01-31T21:32:36Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > [Concern troll - RationalWiki](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll) > > “In environments of genuine groupthink, applying the concern troll label may serve as a means of enforcing conformity and punishing (or silencing) dissent.” > > I would suggest that this site has a predominately liberal population and application of these sort of labels are being used to enforce liberal orthodoxy. I’m gonna sprain my eyeballs if you make them roll any harder. Yes, DA, we know. We get it. You’ve said this several times. It wasn’t original the first time you said it. We’re tired of it. It isn’t worthy of our consideration. You resorted to calling people snowflakes and have been trying to fart up this smokescreen ever since. You are facing a liberal audidence but you are not dealing with unerring liberal orthodoxy. You are creating a field of strawman you think you’ll slay and be the hero. You are failing even at that. So please take you ‘suggestions’ and have a nice walk. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/856 "2017-01-31T21:42:33Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > This is a beautiful thing. > > Sic semper troll. You’re only depriving yourself. **Damuri** is an extremely active, highly engaged member of this online community who makes a lot of posts, a few of which I’ve read. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/857 "2017-01-31T21:51:04Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > You’re only depriving yourself. **Damuri** is an extremely active, highly engaged member of this online community who makes a lot of posts, a few of which I’ve read. I think I can somehow live with that. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/858 "2017-01-31T21:54:26Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > What had Trump done on the eve of his inauguration that you could violently protest against in downtown DC? Well, sexual assault (and bragging about it), defrauding students at his “University”, housing discrimination, suggesting a judge in a case against him could not be fair because of his ethnicity, not divesting or revealing his financial conflicts. I’m sure we could come up with a few more if you’re really interested. And it’s my understanding that the protests have been remarkably non-violent, considering their size. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/859 "2017-01-31T21:54:45Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > and the rest of that cite reads: "I was making fun of snowflakes who were hyperventilating BEFORE Trump did anything. Really. What had Trump done on the eve of his inauguration that you could violently protest against in downtown DC? > > I was making fun of Snowflakes that insisted that Trump was not a legitimate POTUS because of the popular vote or Russian hacking or that he was a Manchurian candidate thrall of Putin. These things deserve to be made fun of. > > If you are concerned about Trump’s recent executive order, well then that’s something he actually did that was probably illegal and deeply disturbing and everyone shout be concerned." > > In context, does that cite really seem like I was explicitly saying you can’t criticize Trump in any way? It does appear as though you do not wish for anyone to predict the future. It does appear as though you do not wish for anyone to object to what he has said he will do. In fact, it was not until he made the ban that you “allowed” anyone to critize him in any way. Now, to be fair, your lack of permission has had an impact on exaclty not a single person, so it is true that you were not saying that “you _ **can’t** _ criticize Trump in any way?”, just that it is stupid, silly, or whatever other disparaging term you have for the snowflakes that were protesting against the things that trump said he would do. If I tell you that I am going to steal your car, is it silly for you to object to that before I actually steal your car? > [@](#): > > And the whole quote on that cite reads:“I think you are a snowflake for using hyperbolic language to flip out about the stuff he said during the primary. Calling him a Manchurian candidate. Accusing him of incest with his daughter, saying that the russian mob will force him to act in the best interests of Russia, saying that he is somehow not a legitimate president because the Russians hacked Hillary’s emails and revealed her duplicity corruption and cheating, saying that he is somehow not really the president because he lost the popular vote, shit like that.” > in context, does THAT cite really say that you can’t criticize Trump in any way? Well, no, you are not saying that we can’t criticize trump, but only because you don’t have the power to stop anyone. You are stating that you will dismiss and disparage such criticisms. > [@](#): > > Yes, please do. > > I was critical of Trump throughout his campaign. I was critical of his picks for cabinet. I was critical of picking bannon. I was critical of almost everything trump and his supporters have done and said. There is nothing wrong with mere criticism. Its the hyperventilating, hyperbolic conspiracy theorists who speculate that Trump is a Manchurian candidate in thrall to Russia because they have pictures of him having sex with his daughter of something ridiculous like that. Sure, some of the things have been hyperbolic, or even made in jest, but, most of it was perfectly reasonable criticism, and concern for what he planned to do in the future, and all of that was lumped into your snowflake diatribes. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/860 "2017-01-31T22:19:25Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Well, sexual assault (and bragging about it), defrauding students at his “University”, housing discrimination, suggesting a judge in a case against him could not be fair because of his ethnicity, not divesting or revealing his financial conflicts. I’m sure we could come up with a few more if you’re really interested. > > And it’s my understanding that the protests have been remarkably non-violent, considering their size. There was one incident of violence… instigated by a certain James O’Keefe, the right wing agent provocateur. The same guy who spread lies about Planned parenthood, and recently tried to bribe people to riot at demonstrations, is now involved in some very nasty assaults. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203.md?page=44)