# I'm gonna have to pit all you butt-hurt snowflakes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 15, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203 "2017-01-15T03:22:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/161 "2017-01-16T01:55:48Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Okay…
> 
> let us take a poll…and I’ll assume (we know where that gets you) posters will be honest.
> 
> EVERY poster/reader here…reading my posts AT that time…did they GET the reference then and there? . . .

Nope; it just seemed like a weak jab at someone for having taken too long to think of a response. What is the reference?

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/162 "2017-01-16T01:57:17Z")

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> Wow, that profile is filled with [pro-trump](http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Clothahump/media/15085597_10157867510435515_3488828352933145427_n1_zpsxktoiju4.png.html?sort=3&o=5), [bragging/trolling memes](http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Clothahump/media/Political/ButtHurtSalve_zpssqrv9hx2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0). And it looks like **Clothahump** has been seriously [butt-hurting for 4 long years](http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Clothahump/media/Political/IMourn.jpg.html?sort=3&o=12).

He dared to use ISAAC ASIMOV to bolster his opinions? Clothahump must never have a word of his in his life!

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/163 "2017-01-16T01:58:51Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Nope; it just seemed like a weak jab at someone for having taken too long to think of a response. What is the reference?

It’s Star-Bellied Sneetches. Not Lorax. I did have to look it up btw. The exact name. I know the reference and metaphor, but didn’t know the exact name.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/164 "2017-01-16T02:00:29Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> And yet THEY won…gawd that must suck ass…

Since Dr. Suess is your muse, you should say it like:

“But now," says the Once-ler, "now that you’re here, the word of the Lorax seems perfectly clear. UNLESS someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It’s not.”

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/165 "2017-01-16T02:11:53Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> The Democrats […] are demonstrating why it is they who are the threat to democracy, not the Republicans. Different people have different perspectives on different matters and come to different conclusions, and if you cannot respect that […]

:dubious: Are you seriously claiming that Republicans these days have a better track record than Democrats of “respecting” the fact that “different people have different perspectives on different matters and come to different conclusions”?

A few counterexamples from this thread alone:

> [@billfish678](#):
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> 4 years of unwanted butt fucking […] You fuckers almost deserve it

> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> You Give not One Shit…  
> …about anything except your miserable, fuck-assed self. […]
> 
> […] drain out with the rest of the putrid pus.

> [@octopus](#):
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> You really want a society where the most violent mob decides what can be said, who can vote, who can worship what?

For the past eight years, we have seen in Republican behavior a level of vitriolic antagonism unequalled since at least the 1960s. Not just the endless xenophobic and racist libels on Obama himself, but the shameless lying about Democratic policies, the mindless stubborn opposition to anything proposed by a Democrat, the frenzied denunciations of “libtards” and “shitlibs” and any other derogatory epithet they could come up with for liberals, etc. etc.

And now that the Republicans have managed to install a borderline unhinged Chief Exec and swamp-crony Administration that are a serious embarrassment not just to their party but to the nation as a whole, they’re complaining that the _Democrats_ aren’t showing proper decorum?!

> [@Ale](#):
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> IMO someone like Trump could only get to where he is now when the level of political discourse reaches rock bottom levels, do you see many people trying to rise that level?

As a previous poster put it:

> [@aurora maire](#):
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> Standards, norms and traditions don’t mean shit to Trump, his fans or the GOP. […] But then they expect the Democrats to adhere to those traditions - the peaceful transition of power, respecting the office of President - and then get all upset when we don’t. Fuck that. They don’t have a leg to stand on when they are the ones who threw the rule book out the window.

If you want to “rise the level” of political discourse in this country, maybe start by trying to encourage a little more dignity and courtesy in the behavior of the POTUS that the Republicans elected. The Party of Trump doesn’t really have a lot of room to complain that **other** people aren’t being polite enough.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/166 "2017-01-16T02:21:02Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Nope; it just seemed like a weak jab at someone for having taken too long to think of a response. What is the reference?

Hey…

There is nothing WRONG about 2 hours after the fact thinking I should have said “and XYZ”…gawd knows my life is full of that shit…

The “deal” is people thinking they thought that right then rather than the fact it WAS 2 hours later (after some internet research non the less) and then going “gotcha” or “I knew that shit”…

Well, if it took you a few hours to think about it…or some internet searching…or both…

Well…fuck you up the ass with a dry catus with no lube…you did NOT know that shit…

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/167 "2017-01-16T02:31:35Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> No…but you don’t fucking get it apparently…
> 
> Would you say any black man is “free” to pull up to the lunch counter at local dinner but after he does he’ll get the shit beat out him? And that he is free?
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> Gawd you libtards…calling it night now.

Who is getting beaten up for speaking? I don’t think you’ll find any “libtards” defending beating people up for speaking.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/168 "2017-01-16T02:35:50Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> And you’re having one right now. How is this supposed to be admirable?

Hate to bust your bubble, but I’m not throwing a whiny tantrum like the rest of you snowflakes. I’m simply pointing out that it’s time for you all to suck it up like you told conservatives to do when you elected that incompetent jackass Obama twice.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/169 "2017-01-16T02:54:22Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Speaking of points…me and my arrow will be going now.

A point in every direction is the same as no point at all. So I heard in the Pointless Forest.

Yep, I got your reference, **Dale**. I also got the Star-Bellied Sneetch reference at the time I read it. Not sure why anybody thinks it would be difficult.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/170 "2017-01-16T02:56:08Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> But (assuming that “shitty dinner B” is a proxy for Trump and “shitty dinner A” is a proxy for Clinton), the proposition is so patently, inarguably opposite to reality that treating it as factual can only plausibly be explained by drooling stupidity or active hatred of the United States.

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Hate to bust your bubble, but I’m not throwing a whiny tantrum like the rest of you snowflakes. I’m simply pointing out that it’s time for you all to suck it up like you told conservatives to do when you elected that **incompetent jackass Obama** twice.

Really?

Gonna have to go with “drooling stupidity” for you, if you think THAT isn’t patently, inarguably opposite to reality.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/171 "2017-01-16T02:58:26Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I’m not throwing a whiny tantrum like the rest of you snowflakes.

Huh? Your OP itself is a whiny tantrum.

If you don’t like people criticizing and complaining about Trump, well, that’s too bad for you, but we’re not going to stop just because you pout and stamp and demand that we “suck it up”.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/172 "2017-01-16T03:13:48Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Okay…
> 
> let us take a poll…and I’ll assume (we know where that gets you) posters will be honest.
> 
> EVERY poster/reader here…reading my posts AT that time…did they GET the reference then and there?
> 
> If not fine…though I’d like to see the stats…but you guys are not the hippest cats you fucking think you are…

I got it immediately, when I read it hours later.

This has no bearing on how stupid you are if you’re using speed of response to your post to measure anything in this format.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/173 "2017-01-16T03:19:28Z")

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Just ran across a post in my Facebook feed that seems relevant to this thread, especially in light of those who are calling for civil discourse. [The whole thing is here](https://www.facebook.com/johnhedtke/posts/10154888731426449), if the link still works, but I excerpt below:  
[QUOTE=John V. Hedtke]  
People have been saying that, when dealing with Trump (and the GOP), we have to maintain our civility, our dignity, our sense of discourse. And it occurs to me that there’s something they don’t know about the situation that’s key.

Trump is a narcissist.  
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Narcissists don’t see anyone else as real. We’re not important. What’s important to them is winning.  
…  
Keep this in mind: There isn’t anything you can do to deal with a narcissist.  
…  
Even worse, narcissists count on you being civil, being nice, not being ready for them. They’re lying in wait for you and they will immediately start the games as soon as you show up.  
So, what does work when dealing with narcissists?  
Ignoring them when possible. (We can’t in this case, alas.)  
Scorn.  
Mockery.  
Public humiliation on as big a scale as can be managed.  
You cannot “reach” a narcissist–they are completely unfixable–and anything based on the idea of “Oh, but they’re human, there’s some good in them, we should be nice because WE are people and should be nicer than them” is going to get you fucked over.  
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And the sooner you all get to this level of understanding and stop being “nice” and start mocking and scorning the orange shitgibbon at every possible turn, the better off you’ll be, too.  
You may say “But we’ll be no better than he is, then!” Actually, yes, you will, always. You’re automatically better because you care about other people.  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/174 "2017-01-16T03:24:08Z")

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> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> Just keep the OP in mind every time \*\*Clothy \*\*ties himself in knots blaming every one of Trumps many, many fuck-ups over the next four years on Obama.

Oh he will. Rest assured. He probably can’t wait to blame him for the Great Depression, both world wars, Iraq, and Vietnam too. What a fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![Phrozen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Phrozen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phrozen)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/175 "2017-01-16T03:35:08Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Hate to bust your bubble, but I’m not throwing a whiny tantrum like the rest of you snowflakes. I’m simply pointing out that it’s time for you all to suck it up like you told conservatives to do when you elected that incompetent jackass Obama twice.

Looks like a goddamn tantrum to me.

This seems like a good time to suggest you re-read your favorite pithy Asimov quote.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/176 "2017-01-16T03:37:09Z")

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Hedtke’s analysis is flawed because it leaps - without facts or rationale - from the probably justified contention that mockery will _upset_a narcissist to a conclusion that mockery will _defeat_ a narcissist. I don’t see that as true by any means.

Mockery isn’t going to be enough to cause Trump to leave office, or to do any particular thing - not when his office (and his actions) also gives him adulation and attention from his supporters. General mockery is pointless.

Indeed given that narcissists will do almost anything to counterattack when mocked, mockery will drive Trump towards ever more vicious attempts to control criticism. And anyway he will create a bubble around himself such that he doesn’t hear much of the mockery.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/177 "2017-01-16T03:52:36Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Just ran across a post in my Facebook feed that seems relevant to this thread, especially in light of those who are calling for civil discourse. [The whole thing is here](https://www.facebook.com/johnhedtke/posts/10154888731426449), if the link still works, but I excerpt below:

The argument is ridiculous, the people calling to elevate the public discourse are not saying just talk nice to Trump.  
That and doing what that man suggest helps not one bit to convince anyone that your side is any better than the other.

It’s bizarre, this self defeating beheaviour. Why people insist that the best way to deal with the situation is to wrestle with a pig in the mud rather than taking the high road? Can’t they see they just end up as full of shit as the pig they want to defeat?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/178 "2017-01-16T03:55:07Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> ndeed given that narcissists will do almost anything to counterattack when mocked, mockery will drive Trump towards ever more vicious attempts to control criticism.

But that’s the thing that will make most non-narcissists continually more disgusted with him. If he’s such a big baby he can’t even handle being mocked on SNL or condemned at an awards ceremony without launching a petulant gripefest on Twitter, more and more people are going to end up despising him.

Mockery of Trump is not about teaching Trump himself any kind of lesson: he doesn’t have the maturity and dignity that would enable him to learn anything from it. It’s about giving everybody else the chance to see how Trump’s lack of maturity and dignity constantly leads him to make a horse’s ass of himself.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/179 "2017-01-16T04:03:22Z")

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You have more faith in humanity than I have. Similarly narcissistic leaders to Trump have usually kept their supporters, who don’t like Their Guy being criticised. There’s that old saying “you only truly believe in Free Speech when you stand up for someone’s right to speak even though you disagree with them”. Few people truly believe in Free Speech IME.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-gonna-have-to-pit-all-you-butt-hurt-snowflakes/777203/180 "2017-01-16T04:12:52Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> You have more faith in humanity than I have. Similarly narcissistic leaders to Trump have usually kept their supporters, who don’t like Their Guy being criticised.

Sure, but remember that Trump doesn’t actually have all that many genuine supporters, as in people who seriously trust and respect him. Trump’s howler-monkey tantrums may not repulse his cadre of committed supporters, but they’re turning off everybody else.

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