# I'm in an abusive relationship.....

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 11, 2013, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622 "2013-03-11T08:48:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/1 "2013-03-11T08:48:06Z")

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…with [Nicolas Cage](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage).  
He [keeps](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapped_in_Paradise)[putting](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_Man) out [shit](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Weather_Man) and I [keep](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider_%28film%29) on [watching](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangkok_Dangerous_%282008_film%29) it. If [that’s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowing_%28film%29) not [the](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sorcerer%27s_Apprentice_%282010_film%29) same as [being](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season_of_the_Witch_%282011_film%29) in an [abusive](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespass_%282011_film%29) relationship, [I](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeking_Justice) don’t [know](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider:_Spirit_of_Vengeance) what [what is!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_%282012_film%29)

But the person I really feel sorry for is his [agent!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExfV_xKaiM)

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/2 "2013-03-11T09:06:12Z")

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In [a recent interview](http://collider.com/ghost-rider-3-news-nicolas-cage/) he actually decided not to pursue anymore _Ghost Rider_ films. Rejoice.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/3 "2013-03-11T12:11:58Z")

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Just because you’re into scat doesn’t make the relationship abusive.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/4 "2013-03-11T12:18:43Z")

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[He’s been taking it easy on you, you know.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkw-5htPw0)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/5 "2013-03-11T13:31:33Z")

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I didn’t dislike _The Weather Man_, but admittedly I was trying hard to give it the benefit of the doubt because it was Nicolas Cage. And yes, it’s disturbing to look over his filmography and realize how few and far between the good movies actually are. _Adaptation_ was ten years ago.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/6 "2013-03-11T17:22:44Z")

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One thing to keep in mind is Cage has enormous money and tax problems and actually _has_ to take every role that’s offered him.

That still doesn’t explain his participation in the **Ghost Rider** movies.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/7 "2013-03-11T18:16:44Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> [He’s been taking it easy on you, you know.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkw-5htPw0)

:eek: Stop! STOP!

\*\*I’ll confess, I’ll confess! \*\*

Just stop the torture!!!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/8 "2013-03-11T21:58:14Z")

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Every now and then, watch Raising Arizona as a palette cleanser.  
You know, it’s not Awesome, but it should wash some of the stink away.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/9 "2013-03-11T22:13:17Z")

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Yeah the true shame is that the guy can act.

Raising Arizona  
Adaptation  
Birdy  
Leaving Las Vegas  
Valley Girl  
Peggy Sue Got Married  
Moonstruck  
Lord of War  
Matchstick Men

All quality movies

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/10 "2013-03-11T23:48:54Z")

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Oh, he’s definitely a fine actor, but he’s been selecting some[awfully bad scripts lately](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExfV_xKaiM).

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/11 "2013-03-12T02:36:23Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Oh, he’s definitely a fine actor, but he’s been selecting some[awfully bad scripts lately](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExfV_xKaiM).

😕

You are aware that is the same video I linked to in the OP, right?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/12 "2013-03-12T02:50:29Z")

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[He is a modern artist and a true genius.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOPNJl0PDP8)

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/13 "2013-03-14T02:17:39Z")

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Whenever this subject comes up I always remember the first time I heard about it. It had to be close to 20 years ago now (!) and I think it was in _Entertainment Weekly_. It was an interview with **Sean Penn** , who came up thru Hollywood together with Cage and was best friends with him. It must have been the mid-nineties or so, and Penn basically completely trashed Cage in the interview, saying that he was a complete sell-out and was squandering his talent by doing films simply for a big paycheck. At the time Cage rebuffed his criticism claiming he didn’t understand or agree with it, but that the two of them were definitely no longer friends.

As much as I dislike Penn for his childish politics, he is a great actor and he has consistently chosen roles based on quality material. And he was 100% right about Nicholas Cage, he definitely decided to sell his soul and join the bazillion-dollar-per-film club like Travolta and Eddie Murphy and Ben Affleck (at least Affleck realized the error of his ways and has somewhat recovered).

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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/14 "2013-03-14T17:08:15Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> One thing to keep in mind is Cage has enormous money and tax problems and actually _has_ to take every role that’s offered him.
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> That still doesn’t explain his participation in the **Ghost Rider** movies.

Because he’s a nerd. He was going to be Superman too. He named his son Kal-El.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-in-an-abusive-relationship/652622/15 "2013-03-14T17:21:52Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Yeah the true shame is that the guy can act.  
> (snip)  
> Peggy Sue Got Married  
> (snip)
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> All quality movies

Despite Nicolas Cage
