# I'm joining the Freemasons

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-joining-the-freemasons/310932>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 3, 2005, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-joining-the-freemasons/310932 "2005-07-03T18:15:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-joining-the-freemasons/310932/41 "2005-07-05T23:11:53Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Find a child who is willing to tell his parents everything he has been told about DeMolay. In detail. Leaving nothing out.
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> As for your question, I’m trying to figure out a way to answer it without insulting you, since it’s a good question. Shall we say that my level of parental concern for my nephew approached the norm, whereas both of his parents were fairly… disinterested? Yes. That’s an accurate yet polite way to say it. ☹

I appreciate the answer and the politeness, since my question wasn’t exactly framed politely.

While I was never a DeMolay, I am a Mason and have been for twenty-five years. I personally know Masons who were DeMolay boys, and I know Masons who have been actively engaged with the DeMolay. I’ve never heard so much as a hint of scandal associated with the organization or with the men who are so engaged. It disconcerts me that anyone would suspect nefarious activity on the part of those men; admittedly I am predisposed to consider them as good men. I recognize that there are bad apples in every group; I just haven’t heard of any.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-joining-the-freemasons/310932/42 "2005-07-05T23:20:06Z")

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Ever been to Pennsylvania?..

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-joining-the-freemasons/310932/43 "2005-07-05T23:22:33Z")

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And, as a 25-year Mason who seems willing to talk, how about if **you** do the collective we a favor and answer in exhaustingly thorough Doper-type detail the 5 questions I posed up there? That’d be great. No doding. No double talk and passivity. Details. Absolutely truthful factual details.

25 years, a man could learn a lot. I bet those 5 questions, why I bet they’re easy as pie to answer. 🙂 That’d be really great. Remember- we’re fighting ignorance here so be darned thorough.

Thank you so much in advance !!

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-joining-the-freemasons/310932/44 "2005-07-05T23:34:40Z")

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**STOP.**

Start a new thread if you want to talk about this child-molesting stuff. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-joining-the-freemasons/310932/45 "2005-07-05T23:36:45Z")

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That sounded kind of mean, so I’ll rephrase it. I’m not a moderator and I can’t force you to stop talking about anything. But I just feel like the DeMolay child-molesting accusations, or whatever they are, are sidetracking this thread from the main point.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-joining-the-freemasons/310932/46 "2005-07-05T23:53:26Z")

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Fair enough. You have my apologies. I was truly interested in the answers from an experienced Dopers and Mason such as **LouisB** ).

You are correct, I should start a separate thread regarding my concerns .

I’m so very sorry.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-joining-the-freemasons/310932/47 "2005-07-06T00:07:03Z")

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For those Dopers who have been responding to my posts and also wish to respect the wishes of the OP’er here, please regard this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6333993) for a continuation and expansion of my thoughts in this matter.

**LouisB** , I heartily invite you on over if you are willing to discuss this.

🙂

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