# I'm Liberal. Am I wrong in this one opinion about transgenderism? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 28, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-liberal-am-i-wrong-in-this-one-opinion-about-transgenderism/837746 "2019-07-28T05:44:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-liberal-am-i-wrong-in-this-one-opinion-about-transgenderism/837746/61 "2019-07-31T03:56:45Z")
> [@DirkHardly](#): > > Well perhaps some other people have gained some clarity on the issue but it seems you haven’t. Which of course isn’t that surprising when the question purporting to be a honest request for further information is instead a rhetorical device where the asker is instead going to ignore the factual answer and stick with their preconceived biases and ignorance. Or did you have an actual factual rebuttal based on your vast knowledge of English Common Law systems in general and Canadian Law in particular? > > I cited actual legal language from the Ontario Human Rights Code that was so vague and poorly worded that, until clarified by subsequent precedent, could be interpreted to compel/prohibit the very conduct Dr. Peterson was so concerned about. The penalty for which could amount to a substantial fine and even vicarious liability for his employer the University of Toronto. And of course even being accused of such a violation could incur costs of thousands of dollars (even Canadian dollars) in legal fees even to prove his innocence. > > And once again, and its telling how you and others seem to ignore or minimize this fact, the University’s legal counsel thought the potential legal issue enough of a concern to repeatedly warn Dr. Peterson that failing to use the pronouns in question could incur legal liability on behalf of himself and the University as his employer. Or do you claim to know more about this legal issue than the counsel for Canada’s largest and one of its most prestigious universities? Considering your seeming disdain for actual facts and your apparent reticence to alleviate your ignorance it wouldn’t surprise me if you did. No, he asked a very specific question. “Please point out to me the section in C-16 that required people to not misgender others.” Your reply did not provide this. As such, he pointed that out. The reply to what you are saying now is simply to point out that [the Canadian Bar Association does not agree with this interpretation](https://www.cba.org/News-Media/News/2017/May/CBA-position-on-Bill-C-16). The relevant portion: **C-16 Will Not Impede Freedom of Expression** Recently, the debate has turned to whether the amendments will force individuals to embrace concepts, even use pronouns, which they find objectionable. This is a misunderstanding of human rights and hate crimes legislation. The text then goes on to explain why this is so. So, yes, I am confident that both I and Inner Stickler have the correct interpretation, while Peterson’s lawyers do not. Because our interpretation aligns with the Canadian Bar Association itself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-liberal-am-i-wrong-in-this-one-opinion-about-transgenderism/837746.md?page=3)