# I'm looking for examples of unusually short action heroes.

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**Created:** [December 29, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-looking-for-examples-of-unusually-short-action-heroes/565720 "2010-12-29T17:34:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
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You’d think the title said it all, but being neurotic I must make a few qualifications:

1. I’ve already though of comic book Wolverine, movie Willow, and Piers Anthony’s Stile, thanks.
2. Cinematic characters who are portrayed by short _actors_, but whose shortness is obscured by camera tricks and what not, are not what I am looking for.
3. I have also already thought of Hobbits.
4. Y’all know I always forget what number four is.
5. Literary, stage, television, and cinema are all welcome.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
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[Shrinking Violet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrinking_Violet_(comics))

Al Pratt, the Golden Age [Atom](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(Al_Pratt))

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> **[Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Mouser)**
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> Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser are two sword-and-sorcery heroes appearing in stories written by American author Fritz Leiber. They are the protagonists of what are probably Leiber's best-known stories. One of his motives in writing them was to have a couple of fantasy heroes closer to true human nature than the likes of Howard's Conan the Barbarian or Burroughs's Tarzan. 
> Fafhrd is a very tall (nearly 7 feet (2.1 m)) and strong northern barbarian, skilled at both swordsmanship and singing. The Mous...

Semi-famous science fiction author Fritz Lieber wrote a sword & sorcery series featuring Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser. I don’t remember the Mouser’s height, but probably around 5’.

The stories are well written, well regarded. The pair often did jobs for Ningauble of the Seven Eyes.

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Marty, in Back-to-the-Future, is played by the short Michael J Fox, and not scaled  
up to look tall. There are a few scenes where his short size compared to the antagonists is very evident.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> [Shrinking Violet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrinking_Violet_(comics))

I’d not count her or any other shrinking hero. I am seeking characters whose normal size is much smaller than their species, not ones who magically slap around the laws of physics.

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> Al Pratt, the Golden Age [Atom](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(Al_Pratt))

Now he’s what I mean, as is McFly.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
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Miles Vorkosigan.

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You didn’t mention fantasy dwarves, e.g., the ones in LOTR. Not sure if they fall in the same category as hobbits.

Also there are the gelflings in **The Dark Crystal** , who have some pretty cool action sequences.

There’s Joe Pesci’s psycho [Nicky Santoro](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112641/) in Casino.

And surely number four was David?

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-looking-for-examples-of-unusually-short-action-heroes/565720/8 "2010-12-29T17:43:02Z")

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Tom Thumb from the Squadron Supreme.

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[Miles Vorkosigan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Vorkosigan) and his clone-brother Mark.

Antonina, wife of Belisarius in the alternate history [Belisarius series](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisarius_series). Especially the part where she slaughters a bunch of thugs with a cleaver.

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> You didn’t mention fantasy dwarves, e.g., the ones in LOTR. Not sure if they fall in the same category as hobbits.

I would not use hobbits for this purpose, because both tales told about them are from their point of view. Frodo & Sam don’t think of themselves of short; they think of themselves moving in a world of giants.

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
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Puck from Alpha Flight.

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> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> Puck from Alpha Flight.

At some point, there was a story that he was shorter because he absorbed a demon or something. I don’t know if the sotry stuck.

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> At some point, there was a story that he was shorter because he absorbed a demon or something. I don’t know if the sotry stuck.

I remember that tale. It’s form the same period of retconning Northstar’s implicit homosexuality (and suffering from AIDS) as his being a fairy and being ill because he was allergic to, _Earth_. :rolleyes:

In fact, screw the :rolleyes:. That deserves a :mad: or twelve.

Anyway, during the Byrne run, in the first Puck solo story, Puck specifically identifies himself as a little person and names the specific disorder, referring to a lack of growth in all the long bones. I’d go with that explanation; it makes him more interesting.

Also the Byrne run has many cheesecake pictures of Heather Hudson, which was a good thing. This was back before all superheroines or female romantic interests had to have breast implants.

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Besides Miles Vorkosigan (and you can’t beat Miles, really), I’d recommend George Chesbro’s[Mongo the Magnificent](http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Broken-Man-Mongo-Mystery/dp/0671226967/ref=sr_1_10?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293647167&sr=1-10). It’s a series of mysteries starring Dr. Robert Fredrickson, AKA Mongo the Magnificent (he performed in the circus and has a doctorate in History).

StG

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Jeremy X and Anton Zilwiki of the Honorverse _may_ count, depending on how short you are defining “unusually short” as. They are both consistently described as relatively short men (respectively, short and slender, and short and built like a fantasy dwarf); but they aren’t _really_ short like Vorkosigan, say. Just shorter enough than average to be remarked upon. More short like Wolverine.

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I was seriously about to suggest the movie Willow. Yes, I know you posted it in your OP, but my mind went immediately to Buffy’s Willow and I thought “huh…she doesn’t seem THAT short. Oh well, moving on”

Hey, what about Reepicheep?

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Ender Wiggin, at least in Ender’s Game. And his sidekick whose name I forget.

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Ender Wiggin, at least in Ender’s Game. And his sidekick whose name I forget.

Bean

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A fun blast from the past that’s only barely on topic: [Teeny Little Super Guy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWNgt-x4Gk) (Classic Sesame Street)

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If children count, then Billy Batson, also known as Captain Marvel. From the live action tv show “[The Wizard](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090547/)”(like MacGyver but with midgets) there was Simon McKay. He was always pretty cool.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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