# I'm no longer a Jew.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-no-longer-a-jew/553727>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 14, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-no-longer-a-jew/553727 "2010-09-14T14:40:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-no-longer-a-jew/553727/101 "2010-09-17T17:42:05Z")

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iling of the thread and I’m contributing to derail it further.

Anyway, regarding the OP : if you were an Israeli generally supporting Netanyahu, you could send back your party card. But stating “I’m not a Jew anymore” because you disagree with some Israeli policy, hence equating Jewishness (is that a word???) with Israel’s policies is IMO part of the problem.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-no-longer-a-jew/553727/102 "2010-09-17T18:22:08Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > [@SteveG1](#):
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> > That speaks well of them. There are people there who are fighting it. That is a good thing. Don’t abandon or condemn them, support them and send a heartfelt FUCK YOURSELF to the other guys.
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> The Right of Return isn’t to preserve “racial purity” it is to save Jews from folks who want to kill them.

It appears that some Israeli lawmakers have forgotten about that.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-no-longer-a-jew/553727/103 "2010-09-17T18:49:46Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > The Right of Return isn’t to preserve “racial purity” it is to save Jews from folks who want to kill them.
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> It appears that some Israeli lawmakers have forgotten about that.

How so?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-no-longer-a-jew/553727/104 "2010-09-17T23:02:41Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > It appears that some Israeli lawmakers have forgotten about that.
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> How so?

It’s not so, but since the truth doesn’t fit his argument, he’s conviniently ignoring it.

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-no-longer-a-jew/553727/105 "2010-09-18T01:41:42Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> > [@Sevastopol](#):
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> > The ‘right of return’ under discussion is unique, in being afforded to people with no material connection to the territory.
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> Not so. Read the link - most if not all “rights of return” are afforded to people with no material connections to the territory.

It is so. In every case an exercise of the right of return is about a ‘return’. Either to the country of the person’s birth, or former residence; or that of a recent ancestor. In other words there is a material connection by soil or through the blood {_soli or sangui_}.

Every case except Israel, which wouldn’t be so bad, except that Israel goes further, excluding the right of return from those who would exercise it based on ancestry or residence. It is only for Jews.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-no-longer-a-jew/553727/106 "2010-09-19T07:01:29Z")

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> [@Sevastopol](#):
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> > [@Malthus](#):
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> > Not so. Read the link - most if not all “rights of return” are afforded to people with no material connections to the territory.
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> It is so. In every case an exercise of the right of return is about a ‘return’. Either to the country of the person’s birth, or former residence; or that of a recent ancestor. In other words there is a material connection by soil or through the blood {_soli or sangui_}.
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> Every case except Israel, which wouldn’t be so bad, except that Israel goes further, excluding the right of return from those who would exercise it based on ancestry or residence. It is only for Jews.

Are you ignoring his Germany link on purpose? Or do you just enjoy being wrong?

And it’s not as if the law is saying only Jews can become Israelis. It’s just that Jews have a shortcut. You know what other shortcuts like that exist? Minorities can get into American colleges more easily than whites. Oh no! Let’s organize a lynching party!

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-no-longer-a-jew/553727/107 "2010-09-20T04:25:05Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> [This Is Not How Jews Behave](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hV-3mbsgikznLMNAy48FeFrXrmFAD9I6VNMG0).
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> This is not what Jews do. We do not throw human beings away because their very presence will dilute the purity of the Jewishness of Israel.
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> The video footage of the [Israeli Parliment politician](http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2010/09/14/hancocks.me.children.in.limbo.cnn?hpt=C2) waving his arms and decrying the kids’ right to remain in the country where they were born is so eerily reminiscent of Leni Riefenstahl as to be, well, facist. The Jewishness of Israel ?? REALLY ???
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> Fuck you, you political fascist. Fuck you, you inhuman **and** inhumane bastard. You want to live in a state where you get to exclude anyone who is not just like you and yours? Cool- neonazis are everywhere in Europe and North America. Go, move your family, start a compound, raise a flag and be what you are.
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> I was born an ethnic Jew and that is inescapable. My last name is a Tribal name. As far as how I identify myself? No. I am no longer a Jew. Jews do not do this to other human beings.
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> That’s what Nazis do.
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> :mad:
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> Cartooniverse

It strikes me that you are still quite Jewish, tis the guys you are mad at that needs a little reminder (at least as far as I understand Judaism).

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